My Trip from Blue Pill to Red Pill

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

Welcome aboard Grant, glad you found your way to us.

[Geeky GrantParticipant 35]

bstoff wrote:

should probably try to isolate yourself from women for a while. Forgive me for saying this, but you seem to be dependent on women for validation, and you might be in a delicate state.

I understand the idea of what your saying and thank you for your concern, but at the end of the day I’m not about to shun all women and keep my distance from them. If start doing that my view of them will be come “Tar Brushed”.

I don’t wish to create a male only echo chamber for my views on life as a whole, I always keep away from that mentality, time and time again has proven the down fall of many great minds 🙂

I don’t wish to become someone who hates the opposite sex because they are the opposite sex, if you want to know how well that ends up just go watch a few feminists videos as they tar brush and straw man everybody that has a penis.

But don’t get me wrong I will be leaning on the community, I will also be giving back to it in kind. At the end of the day I will never judge someone for something they had little to no control over such as sex, race, height, sexuality and the like.

I’m just done with playing Russian roulette with my life and future, at my age I know the next few women that come into my life may end up being the one I settle down with.

I maybe in my mid 20’s but I have already seen my fair share of divorces, bitter loveless marriages, complete break downs, children being used as weapons and heart breaking break ups to know this isn’t something I wish to put myself though. I’m a strong willed man but even I have a limit.

For me the temptation of women and having someone by my side isn’t there anymore, it used to be, I used to fantasise about settling down and starting my own family.

I guess part of me still does in some form, but do I really want to do that? Only to find out 15 years down the line my wife has been seeing my neighbour Steve behind my back and wanted to end the marriage? that would kill me…

For me the idea of a long happy financially comfortable life outweighs a short burst of true love followed by a possible steady decline into deep hatred of someone I used to love.

At the end of the day for me logic always wins out 🙂

"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people call love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades; leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle, Morty, rise above! Focus on science" ~Rick Sanchez, Rick and Morty (TV Show)

[Anonymous 6]

That’s a hell of a story mate.
I’m so jealous of your family support.
Mine were a large part of the problem, father would offer support but he was completely lost in the deceptions of my mother and sisters. They actually set a psycho bitch after me.

Congratulations on finding the strength to go your own way man.
Seriously.
F~~~en awesome.

[Anonymous 6]

Anonymous wrote:

It is called trauma bonding.
Blue pill men stay with low quality females, even with emotionally deranged or abusive partners because they don’t have an identity sans a woman.

Interesting.

[Geeky GrantParticipant 35]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s a hell of a story mate.
I’m so jealous of your family support.
Mine were a large part of the problem, father would offer support but he was completely lost in the deceptions of my mother and sisters. They actually set a psycho bitch after me.

Congratulations on finding the strength to go your own way man.
Seriously.
F~~~en awesome.

Cheers mate, my family has always been small but powerful as a unit, we all pick up each other 🙂

Ouch! sounds like a hard time, well atleast you’re here with the support of a small army of interesting wise men with there own tales to tell 😀

I’m far from done, far ways away yet, but Ill get there and so will you buddy, keep up the good fight!

"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people call love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades; leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle, Morty, rise above! Focus on science" ~Rick Sanchez, Rick and Morty (TV Show)

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome to the fold.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[GregB0Participant]

Geeky Grant wrote:

I am tired of ending up with such horrible toxic people, I know not all women are bad, some are really stand up people… but do I really want to risk building a life with someone who could easily just be putting on an act?

Geeky Grant. MGTOW can either be a temporary oasis to allow you to reflect, recenter yourself and heal. Or MGTOW can become a layer of armor again the types of relationships you have had in the past.

Either way, you are walking your path and making your own choices now. Enjoy your freedom and welcome aboard.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello GG,

Appreciate your Introduction and all of the great replies it has generated.

The process of writing down the details of your Red Pills is therapeutic, and helpful to those men who are reading that have gone through the same thing.

Bravo for your attention to details and your story telling.

It is good to read about your commitment to dig into this web site and find the treasure.

Kindly share more about YOUR life like fun things, hobbies, training, and work.

Anyway, your story and the way you are thinking is too familiar. My mind had many of the same thoughts and had been subjected to similar indoctrination. Men like us have no natural Immunity to the charms of women.

Most of us here are on the MGTOW Road. It is a process of awakening.

The hardest part for me was opening my mind to what “Woman’s Nature” was really about.

Coming to a place where AWALT is a fact of life was a MGTOW Milestone for me.

Old Timers warned me thirty years ago about “Woman’s Nature” and they ranted about AWALT.

Because of my Blue Pill foolishness, those Old Timers seemed too angry and cruel and I dismissed their message. Most my life was wasted as a result.

Here was my Blue Pill thinking back then:

Sure, those ugly fat feminists are evil, but not the attractive submissive women! NAWALT! (Cringe)

How could the cute and cuddly feminine women be evil? (More Cringing)

Back then, my “Rose Colored Glasses” made it impossible to see the truth about womyn. See poster below:

Now, I am one of those Old Timers gibbering about “Woman’s Nature.”

The following Link is for a Post that seems too cruel for Blue Pill eyes, but it is the Truth:

todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks

My advice is to seek out a real live “Natural Born MGTOW” and find a way to hang out with him in person. He is a Heterosexual Man who is naturally immune to the charms of women. The following Link is a new MGTOW’s Introduction that discusses “Natural Born MGTOWs:”

looks-like-i-made-it

Furthermore, being a “White Night” is a bad habit that must be totally eliminated from your life as a free man. STOP IT!

The poster below is some Tough Love, I hope you can laugh along with it:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Geeky GrantParticipant 35]

Sup TMM,

Sorry for not getting back sooner, spent last week car hunting, my current car had a blown head gasket and was not worth the repair costs and is beyond my own skills to fix… lucky got a new one now so stress over with 🙂

I can understand your logic about AWALT, but it seems you have fallen for the physical bias, if they look good then they must be good. I’ve never been that way in mind, everyone I meet is judged not by there looks or social standing, but by my own set guidelines. Stuff I consider decent people to be… clearly I have let a few slip by these guidelines but that’s why I’m here, to tighten my own guidelines a little and stop being such a soft touch hero, in short grow a pair and be a man 🙂

I know its a bad habit and its thanks to the last woman I mentioned that I’ve started to stop that, I’m fed up with helping people that haven’t earned it, I’m not going to be a white night any more. Im going to be a normal one, loyal to those who have earned my care… not everyone I feel pity for.

As for acronyms… never been a fan of those, just because a collection of words spell a word don’t make it any more right… for example

B asically
L azy
O bnoxious,
K nobs
E verything

Still anyways been a pleasure hearing from you 😀

"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people call love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades; leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle, Morty, rise above! Focus on science" ~Rick Sanchez, Rick and Morty (TV Show)

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Welcome to the forums GG!

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Geeky Grant wrote:

I’m not about to shun all women and keep my distance from them. If start doing that my view of them will be come “Tar Brushed”.

I avoid ALL women for the same reason that I avoid ALL wild Grizzly bears and ALL Great White sharks. My survival depends on it. I guess the “Tar Brushed” attitude works for me…

[Geeky GrantParticipant 35]

Autolite wrote:

Geeky Grant wrote:

I’m not about to shun all women and keep my distance from them. If start doing that my view of them will be come “Tar Brushed”.

I avoid ALL women for the same reason that I avoid ALL wild Grizzly bears and ALL Great White sharks. My survival depends on it. I guess the “Tar Brushed” attitude works for me…

Well we all have our own methods but personally I like to live dangerously. Very much like Bears and sharks you don’t start dating them and you don’t start sticking your dick in them… that’s when your going to have troubles X-D

"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people call love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades; leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle, Morty, rise above! Focus on science" ~Rick Sanchez, Rick and Morty (TV Show)

[AutoliteParticipant]

Geeky Grant wrote:

Very much like Bears and sharks you don’t start dating them and you don’t start sticking your dick in them… that’s when your going to have troubles X-D

I’ve never dated or “stuck my dick” into the females that caused me some of the worse grief. I guess some of us are just going to have to learn the hard way…

[Geeky GrantParticipant 35]

Autolite wrote:

Geeky Grant wrote:

Very much like Bears and sharks you don’t start dating them and you don’t start sticking your dick in them… that’s when your going to have troubles X-D

I’ve never dated or “stuck my dick” into the females that caused me some of the worse grief. I guess some of us are just going to have to learn the hard way…

Wow… sounds almost threating that X-D

Thing is all people are capable of being right dicks, men and women both have it in there power to screw people over…

Without sounding too up myself I studied phycology a little in college, my advice to you is do some reading up yourself, grab a book about it and just binge read it. It can really help give you a leg up on people and help you avoid dicks quicker 😀

I know I have avoided some right bullets in my time, both from men and women 🙂

"Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people call love is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades; leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it, your parents are gonna do it, break the cycle, Morty, rise above! Focus on science" ~Rick Sanchez, Rick and Morty (TV Show)

[AutoliteParticipant]

Geeky Grant wrote:

Without sounding too up myself I studied phycology a little in college, my advice to you is do some reading up yourself, grab a book about it and just binge read it. It can really help give you a leg up on people and help you avoid dicks quicker

Actually psychology has been a minor interest of mine for several years, particularly personality disorders. Admittedly I already know that I am a very poor judge of character so maybe that’s why I might tend to avoid people more than the average person.

In any case I do have a few books on psychology and personality types. My most favourite is a very rare scratch-n-sniff edition of the DSM IV…

[Anonymous 3]

This is a great thread. There is so much in here it is practically impossible to add or subtract from any part of it. Really great stuff, I feel very validated & grateful for all you guys.
I was your classic White Knight for the first 40 years of my life & then when the switched turned to “I don’t give a f~~~” I was accused of being a misogynist.
Today, I still have women literally knocking on my door, but for the most part it’s just quick & fast stuff. I do spring for an occasional pack of Newport’s even though I don’t smoke. My friend called me ” a big spender”.
I will throw this in: You don’t need to b afraid of women’s nature, just understand it, cover your ass on any engagement with them. F~~~’em if that’s what you want to do.
Or stay away entirely. MGTOW is a sign of the times. Fit yourself into the equation anyway that suits you, however, remember what your dealing with.

[Shadow4512Participant 227]

Welcome home Grant. The events that brought you here were life lessons. Very crucial life lessons.

No one knows the true worth of a man.

[Anonymous 6]

Personally I think the problem with men and women both is instinct.
The difference is men would change.
Biologically speaking men exist to engender change.
I think our problem is we settle for meaningless changes.

I am yet to meet a women who would allow real change.

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