My Poor Son

[HermitParticipant]

I just found out today from his mother that my son has given his girlfriend a “promise ring”. Made me sick to my stomach. I’m not sure what his reasons were and I’m not gonna’ get in his s~~~ about it, but I sure don’t like the sounds of it.

I have already tried to get his mind right about females years ago when he got s~~~ on by one of his girlfriends and he said he understood and agreed, but I’m afraid he’s going to have to learn by the burn, which may be the best way. It’s certainly a lesson I will never forget if I lived to be 500.

He already knows how I feel about women and marriage and I thought he had already learned his lesson. I think living with his mom and his girlfriend may be overexposing him to estrogen and f~~~ing with his mind. Poor kid, he’s only 22. I was young and dumb and 23 when I decided “to do what we’re supposed to do and get married.”

As I said, I hate to get into his business because he knows how I feel and we’ve talked about it a lot. I’m afraid if I try to help him anymore, he’ll just give me the, “I know, I know…”. I’m pretty sure all I can do is stand back and pray and hope for the best.

I of course, am open to any advice in case I may be overlooking a way to help my son.

Thanks, men.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Let him who has ears hear. You’ve already told him. I don’t see that there’s much else you can do. It’s quite rare in my experience for anyone to take the red pill, especially concerning the truth about female nature, without first getting burned. The social conditioning is just too strong.

You can’t help someone who won’t help himself.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[ghostParticipant]

You have already done your part as you say. He needs to learn on his own now. Let him fail. Be there when he finally learns his lesson and needs your guidance. That is what I would do if I was his father.

[Anonymous 1]

Hermit wrote:

I’m pretty sure all I can do is stand back and pray and hope for the best.

^^About sums it up. My old man tried to give me common sense and reason about a girl I dated. I had to get burned to really hear his words. One key though, I always knew he’d have my back and listen to me and give advice; without saying “I told you so”.

You’ve done what you can for now. Be there for him with sound advice again when the time comes. We all live and learn.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Well, on the good side it’s just a promise ring. If memory serves me, that’s what you give a girl instead of an engagement ring to get her off of your back and to shut the hell up for a little while longer. So he’s still got plenty of time.

Maybe it will be for the best. If she starts acting like they are engaged now and turns into a controlling bitch then he wasted a couple hundred dollars on her and not several thousand. May turn out to be a good investment.

Order the good wine

[MonkParticipant 16996]

Hermit wrote:

I think living with his mom and his girlfriend may be overexposing him to estrogen and f~~~ing with his mind.

Undoubtedly. He’s getting the brainwash 24/7.

TaxGuy wrote:

If she starts acting like they are engaged now and turns into a controlling bitch …

This is actually what you want. The thing most likely to derail her plans is her own behaviour.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Hand him some condoms and wait him out. The best you can hope for is he doesn’t knock her up.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 7]

Hermit wrote:

I’m afraid he’s going to have to learn by the burn, which may be the best way

Sigh, yeah this. ^

IDK how old he is but I suspect High School?
The boy has a raging boner for some chick that let him touch her fun bits.

At this point you would be lucky if you can convince him to use hats and only hats that pumpkin does not have access to.

Good luck

[HermitParticipant]

Thanks guys, for confirming what I already knew. When I told my dad I was getting married, he said, “OH NO!” He tried to warn me, and I didn’t f~~~ing listen. Look what happened. Kinda’ funny.

I really appreciate this MGTOW site. When I first joined a few of you told me this is the place I belong. I’m believing that more and more every day.

Thanks again, fella’s.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Sky-OParticipant 18942]

Informative post.

Now. As a guy who’s dad took off when I was a year old.

Reading the OPs post and drawing a parallel to previous posts about ‘converting’ men to MGTOW.

And factoring in that a dad that is MGTOW (Hermit) was unable to save or influence his own son.

Let it hereby be said:

I am a firm believer that the path to MGTOW can only be found after experiencing firsthand what relationships and women have to offer. And a man must first have his awakening forged in the fires of:

01 – Deception

02 – Manipulation

03 – Hypergamy

04 – Infidelity

05 – Narcissism

06 – Pure Evil

And only then, when broken, confused and without hope can a man find his way to MGTOW.

Once it becomes his only option as a means of survival and a reassertion of his right to his own existence can he find the way.

[53ClicksUpParticipant 1345]

Eh, not to worry. You have to tell a kid something a minimum of 10 times for it to sink in. My son is 18 and has been in the same situation a couple of times already.

But now after living with his mom for 10 years, I actually think he may be more MGTOW than I am 🙂

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

All kids have to touch the stove to learn. I just hope he only gets second degree burns instead of third or fourth degree

The answer, is no.

[HermitParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

Informative post.

Now. As a guy who’s dad took off when I was a year old.

Reading the OPs post and drawing a parallel to previous posts about ‘converting’ men to MGTOW.

And factoring in that a dad that is MGTOW (Hermit) was unable to save or influence his own son.

Let it hereby be said:

I am a firm believer that the path to MGTOW can only be found after experiencing firsthand what relationships and women have to offer. And a man must first have his awakening forged in the fires of:

01 – Deception

02 – Manipulation

03 – Hypergamy

04 – Infidelity

05 – Narcissism

06 – Pure Evil

And only then, when broken, confused and without hope can a man find his way to MGTOW.

Once it becomes his only option as a means of survival and a reassertion of his right to his own existence can he find the way.

Yep, like I said, learn by the burn……unfortunately sometimes some of us may need to get burned more than once before we stop sticking “stuff” in the “fire”.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

The way most kids learn not to touch a hot stove, is by touching it. Unfortunately we can’t preemptively teach them some things, we can just warn them, so there is affirmation afterwards, that indeed your warnings were warranted.

[Anonymous 11]

Most of us learned the hard way.

I don’t intend to sound cold, but he’s more likely to have a better overall outcome for himself if a Chad sweeps her off her feet sooner rather than later.

I know it’s hard to watch. You’ll need to be there to help him once it ends unless he landed one of those top 0.0000001% Unicorns. At his young age, it is more possible.

01 – Deception, Yep

02 – Manipulation, Yep

03 – Hypergamy, Yep

04 – Infidelity, Yep

05 – Narcissism, Yep

06 – Pure Evil, Yep

Damn good list forged of fire

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I have a 20 year old and my advice was to enjoy it while the romance lasts and if it doesn’t work out to not blame himself or worry he did something ‘wrong’.

I think that planted a seed in which he now feels he can survive the break up with

I’m trying to teach him to be happy inside himself and to go his own way.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[HermitParticipant 1121]

At your sons age, he isn’t thinking with his mind. His hormones are doing all the thinking. Nothing you can do about it. You tried.

I don't hate women. I just feel better when they're not around.

[BeachBumParticipant 813]

hopefully, little Princess will sleep around on him and then he finds out.

It’s very hard for girls to make promises and not be tempted by other c~~~..

Its bitter sweet what I’m saying- it’s better for him to learn early on how much of a whore she will be. All woman are whores anyway.

It would be a great Red Pill moment for him to feel the burn and learn. He will think of you and your wisdom when it happens…

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Maybe he’s a genius and tricked girl into ONLY getting the promise ring and nothing more

[HermitParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

Well, on the good side it’s just a promise ring. If memory serves me, that’s what you give a girl instead of an engagement ring to get her off of your back and to shut the hell up for a little while longer. So he’s still got plenty of time.

Maybe it will be for the best. If she starts acting like they are engaged now and turns into a controlling bitch then he wasted a couple hundred dollars on her and not several thousand. May turn out to be a good investment.

That’s what I’m hoping, that he’s smart enough to just string her along with this promise ring.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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