My mother has told me many things…

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

When I was still growing up, my mother took the time to teach me about the bible from a very young age. Every night, she would tell me a story or chapter before I went to sleep. Now, There is one story in particular that I remember to this day, that I never quite understood. It was the story of a queen named Jezebel. At the end of that story, my impression of Queen Jezebel was that she was a horrible woman. But before she left, she pointed to the artwork at the end of the story (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/81/b6/3981b6c83fd7b98ee143e9e15b63a162.jpg). Then, she told me “You see that? That is what all women of this earth are.”

At the time, the most I could comprehend was that Queen Jezebel was indeed a horrible person. But what I could not, was that all women are like that. It’s not that I rejected the idea, it’s that I literally could not comprehend such a concept. But, naturally, I grew up, I matured, and my eyes widened with each year. And though I am very young still, a lot younger than many of you I reckon by the looks of the posts I have read from many of you…I have come to realize the looming trap of a system i’ve been living in.

There are so many things that I have to say. There are so many things I want to tell people, and I think this is the place where I’m supposed to do that. That’s why I decided to just go ghost today. A while back, my life goals or dreams in life were to get a good job, a good wife, have a kid or two, and call it a good life. Now, my goals are to get a good job, make a lot of money, and then use that money to make things. What? I don’t know, when I feel like I have a good idea i’ll go with it and find a way to make it happen. I’ll follow my dreams and passions to the grave, and i’ll have a damn good time doing it.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[ghostParticipant]

Welcome to the forums, Frey. Thanks for joining the conversation.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Penman_Frey wrote:

When I was still growing up, my mother took the time to teach me about the bible form a very young age. Every night, she would tell me a story or chapter before the I went to sleep. Now, There is one story in particular that I remember to this day, that I never quite understood. It was the story of a queen named Jezebel. At the end of that story, my impression of Queen Jezebel was that she was a horrible woman. But before she left, she pointed to the artwork at the end of the story (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/81/b6/3981b6c83fd7b98ee143e9e15b63a162.jpg). Then, she told me “You see that? That is what all women of this earth are.”

At the time, my the most I could comprehend was that Queen Jezebel was indeed a horrible person. But what I could not, was that all women are like that. It’s not that I rejected the idea, it’s that I literally could not comprehend such a concept. But, naturally, I grew up, I matured, and my eyes widened with each year. And though I am very young still, a lot younger than many of you I reckon by the looks of the posts I have read from many of you…I have come to realize the looming trap of a system i’ve been living in.

There are so many things that I have to say. There are so many things I want to tell people, and I think this is the place where I’m supposed to do that. That’s why I decided to just go ghost today. A while back, my life goals or dreams in life were to get a good job, a good wife, have a kid or two, and call it a good life. Now, my goals are to get a good job, make a lot of money, and then use that money to make things. What? I don’t know, when I feel like I have a good idea i’ll go with it and find a way to make it happen. I’ll follow my dreams and passions to the grave, and i’ll have a damn good time doing it.

Jezebel is not all women according to the Bible. Sarah, Rebecca, Hanna, Mary, Deborah, Ruth, Esther. All of them are feminine women. Jezebel is rightly portrayed as the arrogant no account prostitute she was. Same as Nebuchadnezzar believed he’s God able to capriciously law for his immediate benefit. Billions of men aren’t lining up to defend Nebuchadnezzar. Billions of women are lining up to defend Jezebel. NFG

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Anonymous 3]

I wish I had a mother like you. My whole life would be different. you are very fortunate to have woke up to the truth of a system which is in no way supportive to men ( in general ). I chased the dream you describe to the gates of insanity & death ( almost ). Follow your passion. Go with God. Carry the torch of freedom forward. Continue to read & contribute to the forums. MGTOW

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

Penman_Frey, I’ve been where you are now. Every side lies upon lies, then f~~~ers expecting me to pay the Sons of Belial.
For God the eternal prime movers’ benefit. As if God eternal requires my approval.
My list would continue, you’ve already got the Almighty help.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Good intro, brother, and welcome to MGTOW. Can’t wait to read more from you!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[GregB0Participant]

Welcome to MGTOW and enjoy the forum. Despite what you have read to date, there are many older and very gifter writers on MGTOW.com Given that the majority of posts are opinion oriented, I can definitely see your point, but you will find many stellar posts virtually penned by senior members quite often.

Best of luck as you continue walking down your path.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings PF,

Many thanks for your excellent Lesson Learned and poster about “Woman’s Nature.”

However, a good Introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and something about your actions as a free men. The goal is for the newcomer to establish his Bonafides as a free man, MGTOW.

Without giving away specifics where others can identify you, kindly provide some Bonafides like what you are doing with YOUR freedom such as:

Work situation?

living situation?

Education?

Hobbies?

What kind of fun things do YOU do?

Any future projects?

Anyway, it is good that you found MGTOW.com and remain a free man.

You have found a gold mine. So, keep digging.

The following link gives an example in nature of the consequences and process of what happens to men when we are involved with women:

/forums/topic/parasitic-jeweled-wasp/

Here is a link to a Post about how out of control and shameless woman are today. Feel free to comment there:

/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/

Woman have always been masters of hiding their true nature which is timeless.

Modern Culture and Feminism has eliminated the need for hiding.

The posters below elucidates the Ancients’ understanding of “Woman’s Nature:”

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Greetings PF,

Many thanks for your excellent Lesson Learned and poster about “Woman’s Nature.”

However, a good Introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and something about your actions as a free men. The goal is for the newcomer to establish his Bonafides as a free man, MGTOW.

Ah, sorry if I came off as an aloof individual. I owe that as well to my mother.

Regarding my personal red pill, I cannot say I’ve had that kind of sobering moment yet. Rather, I think my eyes have been open a lot more than most millenials. I’ve had the opportunity to visit other countries and see what life is like overseas outside of America. Perhaps that’s why I find myself thinking differently from everyone else. To me, modern behavior of millenials baffles me, and the more I observe, the more I ask myself why in the world I would want to or need to partake in this.

But, to answer the following…

Work situation?

I work on call for the Casinos.
I was also recently employed at an ambulance agency.

living situation?

Still living with my folks, planning to move out within the next few years.

Education?

Currently pursuing Associates in Paramedicine
Planning to pursue Bachelors in Nursing

Hobbies?

Calligraphy and Drawing are two recent ones I’ve picked up.
I also enjoy being physically active, and cooking when I have the time.

What kind of fun things do YOU do?

Fun pretty much jumped out of the window when I got into college.
I used to game a lot back in high school, but it’s very difficult to do that and pursue any sort of lecture in the medical field at the same time. I might come back to that after I get my degree but I’ve found more fulfilling hobbies in the meantime where as video games appear to slowly be turning into a cash cow market just like everything else seems to be.

I will say one of the happiest moments I have felt in a long time was the realization that I do not have to make the same poor choices that innevitably lead to my own suffering because “that’s what i’m supposed to do”

Any future projects?

Gonna make a comic book. Yup. I might try to learn martial arts at some point too. Maybe Taekwondo, I’ve always wanted to learn how to kick with deadly force.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Penman_Frey wrote:

Then, she told me “You see that? That is what all women of this earth are.”

Woman know what they are. They laugh at simps because it’s right in their faces and they choose to ignore it. They will spell it out for you, and simps still refuse to believe.

Blank Space is not a music video. It’s a documentary.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Penman_Frey wrote:

….I work on call for the Casinos…

A friend of mine eventually “retired” and then moved into the small farm he had been dreaming about while he was working as a Tradesman.
Alas, he was divorced raped and was only getting 50% of his pension.
He also had daughters, so he needed the extra income.
My friend ended up working Part-Time as a janitor/ Handyman at a Casino in Wisconsin.

Anyway, he told sad tales about how people would throw up, p~~~, or take a dump in the public spaces (walls, hallways, furniture…) in the casinos right after they lost what little money they had left. My friend had to clean up their mess.

So, I can imagine that an ambulance would need to be on hand for the more tragic losses.

Penman_Frey wrote:

…..I might try to learn martial arts at some point too……

Here is something I wrote last year about Internal Martial Arts training which was an excellent foundation for other training:

/forums/topic/the-power-of-celibacy/

Lately, I have been enjoying the squad based tactics of paintball teams.

I went to a paint ball tournament last summer. And the Russian teams were awesome.

The gun range is still my favorite.
Nevertheless, “nothing beats the smell of gun powder in the morning.”

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome!

That picture of Jezebel is the one I was familiar with from childhood. It’s like the official portrait of her lol. We should find the artist.

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

Copy and pasted from a previous thread (A bitter pill) by me:

If you spend some time on this site and come to read some the experiences of true suffering of many of these men, you will see how blessed/fortunate you are in avoiding the REAL Jezebels in today’s society.

As a 61 year old Catholic, I have come to the conclusion that Christianity’s view of women is the correct one i.e. made in the Image of God but the weaker sex.

And finally, the Catholic religion has asserted for 2000 years that being single all one’s life can grasp REAL contentment.

Addressing your current condition; This to shall pass. And, in light of Eternal life, this life is a piece of cake.

God bless, Michael

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Penman_Frey wrote:

….I work on call for the Casinos…

A friend of mine eventually “retired” and then moved into the small farm he had been dreaming about while he was working as a Tradesman.
Alas, he was divorced raped and was only getting 50% of his pension.
He also had daughters, so he needed the extra income.
My friend ended up working Part-Time as a janitor/ Handyman at a Casino in Wisconsin.

Anyway, he told sad tales about how people would throw up, p~~~, or take a dump in the public spaces (walls, hallways, furniture…) in the casinos right after they lost what little money they had left. My friend had to clean up their mess.

So, I can imagine that an ambulance would need to be on hand for the more tragic losses.

Sin city is seldom a dull place, i’ll tell you that right now.

Penman_Frey wrote:

…..I might try to learn martial arts at some point too……

Here is something I wrote last year about Internal Martial Arts training which was an excellent foundation for other training:

/forums/topic/the-power-of-celibacy/
[quote]
I just read through you’re post, I find this very fascinating, I’ll post more about that in your thread in a moment.

[quote]
Lately, I have been enjoying the squad based tactics of paintball teams.

I went to a paint ball tournament last summer. And the Russian teams were awesome.

The gun range is still my favorite.
Nevertheless, “nothing beats the smell of gun powder in the morning.”

I’ve yet to try out paintball, it’s something I’d like to do down the road. I would like to get a permit pretty soon as well. But first I gotta blast throught these classes, get my degree and so on.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

goodkid43 wrote:

Copy and pasted from a previous thread (A bitter pill) by me:

If you spend some time on this site and come to read some the experiences of true suffering of many of these men, you will see how blessed/fortunate you are in avoiding the REAL Jezebels in today’s society.

As a 61 year old Catholic, I have come to the conclusion that Christianity’s view of women is the correct one i.e. made in the Image of God but the weaker sex.

And finally, the Catholic religion has asserted for 2000 years that being single all one’s life can grasp REAL contentment.

Addressing your current condition; This to shall pass. And, in light of Eternal life, this life is a piece of cake.

God bless, Michael

You know there was a time I was looking through the bible asking the question “Do I really have to get married?” And right from the horse’s mouth I find this: “It isn’t wrong to marry, even if you have never been married before. But those who marry will have a lot of trouble, and I want to protect you from that.”

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[AttonParticipant]

Please tell all and take your time telling it.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

In response to DocDJ’s question, here is my story:

I was kind of a stupid chump growing up back in elementary school. I was gullible and I took anything that anyone told me seriously without a second thought. This innevitably led to multiple occasions where I was humiliated or held like a puppy by whoever was the popular group of kids at the time.

I guess I did that out of an inner desire to feel wanted or desired as part of a social group. Somewhere in my mind was an idea ingrained into me that I needed to be a part of a group to survive.

I moved by the time I started to attend middle school and as a result, I had to start from scratch. But this time I was more individualistic, not out of choice, but because of the fact I was an outsider to the new community and school. I was less willing to reach out to others and progressively came to adopt my introverted tendencies and nature from there on.

My high school years were a bit different.
My freshman year, I again felt the need to start over once, more and tried to reach out to groups of students that had similar interests in the hobbies I did. I socialized with the typical gamers and laid back groups in those days.
My sophmore year I had my first crush. She was a year older than me, and we shared a few common interests. I never had the b~~~~ to really talk to her much so that never really led to anything. There may have been a time where she was reaching out to me, but I was too socially awkward at the time to properly understand or act accordingly.
My junior year, that same girl withdrew any so called affection or interest from me, and that crushed me. For months I was depressed over what I had done, or rather I was unable to do.
My senior year, I gradually recovered from my emotional attachment and tried my absolute best to scrap together my last and final year in high school. I made some worthwile friends around this time that genuinely meant well to me. And though I was not quite as happy as I think I could have been if I had done things differently, I was contempt with the way things were by then.

If I had to think of an instance of where I took my first red pill…
There really wasn’t one. By the time I had entered my senier year, I was preparing for college. I studied very intently for my SATs and successfully enrolled.

Throughout my senior year and durring my college years, I volunteered at local fire departments hoping to make a name for myself for future hiring lists. But as it is incredibly competitive to try and join a fire department, I decided to not put all my eggs into that basket, and looked into other avenues of profession like nursing and even criminal analysis (thats where I picked up graphology btw). I think my actions up until now have exposed me to a lot of elements that millenials are not usually exposed to. I got to resuscitate an elderly woman who had just had a heart attack at the age of 19. I got to see what happens to a person’s body in person after they take years of narcotics and drug abuse.

Thus, I think I have come to acquire a very logical mind in order to terms of what I understand of the world around me. And to that very logical mind of mine, things like marriage, love, actual female behavior vs what I was initially taught to believe just did not click.

It just did not click.
And then at some point, I found a video made by a man named the Sandman. The topic was about Zeta’s vs Omegas if I remember correctly. As I was listening to this guy, I thought to myself “you know what…this guy makes a lot of sense.” So I listened into more of his videos, subsribed to his channel. Googled MGTOW and eventually found this place.

As for how long I’ve lurked here…About a day, I think you can even check that on my profile.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Penman_FreyParticipant 210]

Oh and handwriting…
Yeah that i’m a real nerd about that stuff as i’m sure some of you have already noticed, there’s a story about that too.

I don’t know about any of you, but every year in my pre college days, there was always that one kid at school that could draw amazing things. The guy or girl was just gifted. I was not that guy. I was envious of people like that, and tried to be like them and failed many times.

At some point I came to accept that I would never become a good artist, and decided to pursue the next best thing: My handwriting. I thought to myself “Fine, I can’t draw as well as him/her. So instead, i’ll make my writing the absolute best I can.”

So I picked up cursive again. I concentrated every day to improve my legibility and neatness. I was obsessed with it.

Fast forward to a few months ago, I picked up a neat little gadget called the fountain pen. They’re very unique writing instruments. I guess back in the day, the best writing tools people had, were a pointed feather and a bottle of ink. So, people would have to carry both around should they ever want to write something. But then some smart guy came up with the fountain pen, a revolutionary invention that would allow people to carry their ink, their pen all at once wherever they went. Ink would cotinuously flow from this device like a fountain unlike a dip pen that would need to be dipped every now and then.

Eventually, this led to me to discover calligraphy. And I found it quite enjoyable. And then, I became ambitious again and decided to see if I could draw. So I looked up youtube videos and lessons and tried to draw again. Much to my satisfaction, I found that it was a matter of practice before my skills would improve.

Fast forward to the present, though I am busy with my studies at hand. I try to find time within the weak to practice. I’m very determined to write and draw my own comic one day as it was something I’ve always wanted to do as a kid.

Working on my dreams, one day at a time..,

[Anonymous 14]

Well done Penman.

[ghostParticipant]

Penman_Frey for the win. Excellent stuff, bro. You will fit right in.

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