My little opinion about marriage and divorce

[verynormalsimpleParticipant 50]

“I got divorce raped because I didn’t know marriage was so gynocentric” is not a valid excuse.

To be honest I don’t feel much empathy anymore for those who get divorce raped. I was between 10 and 12 years old when I realized that everything a married couple can do, a non-married couple can also do, except some small benefits here and there AND the fact that all the money and stuff becomes common property. That’s not like redpill knowledge or anything, it’s just what kids will be taught in school and be told by adults when they ask about it. I remember talking to my fellow friends, as a teenager, about marriage and pretty much all of us knew it was unnecessary unless you really needed to share 50-50 everything you own with someone else for some reason. When I talked to the smarter ones we came to the conclusion that marriage was basically anti-love, because if someone needs economic-material links, it’s because they don’t really love you. We were not red-pill, indigo or geniuses, just regular KIDS having an innocent conversation.

So “I didn’t know” is not a valid excuse. There’s nothing hidden or cryptic about marriage, the information is out there clear. Even further, there’s plenty of divorce statistics so you basically know the odds of your gamble.
Just like you can’t rob a bank and then cry “This is so unfair! They didn’t tell me that robbing banks was illegal”, be a man and take responsibility for the crooked contract you decided to sign. “I was in love” or “I was in vegas and Elvis convinced me” are not valid excuses for an adult.

The only ones I feel sorry for are those who signed a prenup and got screwed regardless, those who got screwed by “common law marriage” because it is outrageous (although it’s your responsibility to be informed about it wherever you live), or something really unfair like the things I mentioned.

And if I’m telling you this it’s because I think it’s disrespectful to allow a fellow man to behave like a spoiled girl that doesn’t take responsibility for their actions. A good friend is not the one that lies to you about your greatness, is the one that points your flaws to help you correct them.

"The worst form of inequality is when you try to make unequal things equal" Aristoteles; "You know too much when you have done nothing wrong yet people considers you a threat" Myself

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Well lucky for you that you sussed all this out so young!. I was brought up to believe that mariage and kids were the whole point to life and if you didn’t do it you were either Gay or a loser.

Then again I’m not that smart so I guess I don’t have any excuse either.

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 3]

If you and I are best friends for 5, 10 years, and then one day I decide to shoot you in the back, rob you and take all your s~~~, do you just say to yourself “Oh well, I got all my s~~~ taken by my supposed best friend. It’s my fault”? Was it your fault for believing I was your friend?

Men know it’s biased and gynocentric since day one, but think of personal trust and love. The thing is, it isn’t men didn’t know marriage was like this. It is men didn’t know the woman whom they love, who loves them back, who said yes to “till death do us part”, who is supposed to be their best friend, could turn on them and take all their s~~~ like that.

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

It wasn’t always this way. I got married 40 years ago, before Al Gore invented the internet.

Now you would be crazy to get married. Not so much then. There was not as much information on woman’s nature.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

I agree with almost everything you posted just this part rubbed me the wrong way,

“This is so unfair! They didn’t tell me that robbing banks was illegal”,be a man and take responsibility for the crooked contract you decided to sign”

A lot of guys go into thinking they’re in love etc. my mangina days I thought my first would have been the one etc I read the marriage statistics but you’re young and you think oh that won’t happen to me. Men have this terrible notion of honor and keeping your word so you believe her right, thats why women want to snag men early before they wise up. A Lot of hurt brothers on this site just for being a good guy. I guess you don’t feel for those guys but I do cause i’m one of them.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[KeymasterKeymaster]

verynormalsimple wrote:

a fellow man to behave like a spoiled girl that doesn’t take responsibility for their actions

Wrong audience. Remember your introduction?…. and how I pointed out your avatar?

Boy with surprise flowers.
Girl with surprise baseball bat.

You understand it perfectly well. And if that girl decides to club him over the head with it while he’s unsuspecting and thinks it’s “all about love”, you’re gonna blame THE GUY???? Let’s not even use the word “blame”. You’re implying it’s HIS responsibility???

Guess again.

YOU don’t get to say that’s his responsibility.
His “actions” are not the problem here.

If a woman wants/initiates a divorce (like in +72% of the cases) SHE chose badly. She is responsible for her own failure. How can you even pretend a man should pay for her mistake and s~~~ty choice, actions or behavior – Especially if she decides to f~~~ his friend for FREE.

…. or when she decides she’s “not haaaaaaaaaaaapy”.

That c~~~ actually complains because her husband of 16 years still greets her ungrateful aging fat ass with a SMILE in the morning just because she would rather behave like a complete bitch before 10AM. Would love to see how that’s HIS problem and he should have known better. The first time he’s gonna read about how much she resents him for being “too chipper” in the morning is on Oprah Magazine & CNN.

Is he really a fool who should assume his bride resents the s~~~ out of him for being too kind to her after 16 years?….. or is she just a f~~~ing miserable c~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

verynormalsimple wrote:

a non-married couple can also do, except some small benefits here and there

Its funny that the one benefit I’ve heard most commonly cited is to share health insurance. A majority of women voters vote democrat, and democrats want universal healthcare. Kinda funny how marriage is so biased towards women yet so many women are so stupid they are voting to put one more nail in the coffin of marriage.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

I find it unusual for a boy to be talking about marriage as a teen

I find it even more unusual that at 12 you were concerned with marriage to begin with in terms of your discovery.

Some male and female social psychology at play in this.

And when you start off with “to be honest” as if what your saying wasnt good enough, thats a deep imbedded trait of a lier .

The part of I was IN LOVE is not a valid excuse…Either your incapable or your EXTREMLY young. Im convincing myself of something

Very
Normal
Simple

Can you guess?

[TuneoutParticipant]

Execration wrote:

I find it unusual for a boy to be talking about marriage as a teen

I find it even more unusual that at 12 you were concerned with marriage to begin with in terms of your discovery.

True unless your parents – like mine – had a good ‘ol divorce war between the tender ages of 10 -12.

You tend to grow up faster and look at women in a different light after that.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Tuneout wrote:

Execration wrote:

I find it unusual for a boy to be talking about marriage as a teen

I find it even more unusual that at 12 you were concerned with marriage to begin with in terms of your discovery.

True unless your parents – like mine – had a good ‘ol divorce war between the tender ages of 10 -12.

You tend to grow up faster and look at women in a different light after that.

I agree, I considered that a possibility.

In conjunction however. Avatar :pink colors everything else in grayscale.

Immediate simple rationalization .

Other posts where syntax sounds like the way a female talks.

Things that happen on a sub-concious level cant be overcome naturally .

I could very well be very wrong.

I truly disliked however the statement about love not being an excuse.

That is largely possibly due to love not being a cocern. Young boys generally have no concept of love. Older men understand how it got them in trouble. It bothered me in this context

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Also consider everyones forumn name, theres some sense to it. Whether it reflects an interest or something more personal. No forumn name I ve seen seems random with no sense to it. I could be wrong however.I see ghosts where there arent any at times in a manner of speaking.

[Anonymous 0]

SO WE SHOULD ALL BE LIKE YOU OR WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET You sound like someone with very little life experience. The guys on this site are willing to overlook mean comments from a new poster because we understand your pain but making light of someone else else’s pain and suffering by calling them “a spoiled girl” is going to wear thin on our patience real fast.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Anonymous wrote:

SO WE SHOULD ALL BE LIKE YOU OR WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET You sound like someone with very little life experience. The guys on this site are willing to overlook mean comments from a new poster because we understand your pain but making light of someone else else’s pain and suffering by calling them “a spoiled girl” is going to wear thin on our patience real fast.

The users intro states” its not like i expected anything less from the patriarchy” almost in a literal sense.

KM based on a few things I beilieve this user might be Female.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Hey, its your opinion.
Mine?
I’d rather leopard crawl over 2 miles of excrement covered glass shards, naked, with thermite grenades attached to my b~~~~, covered in salt, while having some bulls~~~ feminazi music is pumped over loudspeakers, than participate in that type of farce again.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[verynormalsimpleParticipant 50]

Execration wrote:

I find it unusual for a boy to be talking about marriage as a teen

I find it even more unusual that at 12 you were concerned with marriage to begin with in terms of your discovery.

Some male and female social psychology at play in this.

Well it happened after a teacher gave us a talk about marriage in school. Most of my classmates shared opinions about it, some of them had divorced parent so they talked about their experiences. I honestly thought everyone had this talk at school at some point. Let alone talking among your friends about marriage, it starts when you’re like 6 years old and say “girls are boring, marriage is boring”.

Keymaster wrote:

verynormalsimple wrote:

a fellow man to behave like a spoiled girl that doesn’t take responsibility for their actions

Wrong audience. Remember your introduction?…. and how I pointed out your avatar?

Boy with surprise flowers.
Girl with surprise baseball bat.

You understand it perfectly well. And if that girl decides to club him over the head with it while he’s unsuspecting and thinks it’s “all about love”, you’re gonna blame THE GUY???? Let’s not even use the word “blame”. You’re implying it’s HIS responsibility???

I’m not blaming or saying that the man is responsible for being cheated or being betrayed, that’s a whole different thing. The thing is despite women being hypergamous and society being gynocentric you still knew the rules of the contract before signing it, it’s voluntary. The fact that you know 79% women initiate divorce already tells you a lot, I mean after knowing that you’re no different from a compulsive gambler. Now compulsive gambling could be considered a medical condition and I would agree that someone with known gambling issues suffers from a condition that makes him unable to be accountable for his decision to marry.

Old Rottweiler wrote:

It wasn’t always this way. I got married 40 years ago, before Al Gore invented the internet.

Now you would be crazy to get married. Not so much then. There was not as much information on woman’s nature.

Well if laws or their interpretation/use changed after you got married and you got jeopardized by that, then you belong to the group of people I consider have received unfair treatment.

"The worst form of inequality is when you try to make unequal things equal" Aristoteles; "You know too much when you have done nothing wrong yet people considers you a threat" Myself

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Execration wrote:

KM based on a few things I beilieve this user might be Female.

You can always just ask directly. But as @execration pointed out, the user began the post with “to be honest”…. and when people feel a need to announce that they are about “to be honest”, it’s like saying they LIE the rest of the time. It’s a coin toss.

But is it really a female argument? We have heard that many times before – from a certain type of man as well. “Zero empathy for guys who get divorce raped. They should know better.” and part of me even understands it. I have been tempted to say it to 3 friends of mine who signed a marriage contract.

My best friend’s bride was swinging from another dick within 3 months of the wedding. Yes really. Should he have “known better”? You betcha! Especially since he invited me and I wouldn’t go – and told him exactly why.

He said “Oh right. You don’t believe in marriage.”

I said “No. I don’t believe in divorce.”

So I can see the point, not to feel sorry for him. But I am a human with a pulse, and we’ve known each other 25 years, so what the f~~~ else am I supposed to feel for him? Contempt? Should I point and laugh?

SHE cheated on him. The situation was totally avoidable by HER. Full stop.

Now, if he went and signed ANOTHER marriage contract….. then I would just chalk it up to extreme foolishness. But I still wouldn’t “feel nothing”. I would set my manners aside and passionately object – in his best interest.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mr.NeverAgainParticipant 146]

Im not going to argue your logic, but circumstances can be fairly acknowledged. Marriage and family structure is undeniably a part of American society, and it does work for some. I came from a large family where some marriages worked, others didn’t. My biological parents quietly divorced before I was a year old, and my stepdad came into my life when I was 2. My Mom and Stepdad are still together, work great together and never fought in front of us. He’s a master electrician and machine operator and my mom does tech work for a real estate company. I’ve always known about the horrors of divorce, but I have seen a good and functional marriage go the distance. Generational differences seem to be an increasing issue, but that’s a separate topic. And when you are young and someone wants to share life with you, it can be an exhilaration like none other.

Things for me have gone belly up, but I am learning a lot about myself. The point is, human nature and societal influence are potent and not every young man has the drive to live their entire life solo. We were great friends for years and prolonged getting married by about 6 years to make sure it was the right choice. It wasn’t until I got her through school that things really started to change. She was my first real GF and we gave each other our virginity. I’ve never had a tolerance for ignorant or skanky women and they didn’t want me anyways. She was different, though that hardly matters now.

I still don’t think I made the wrong decision in the beginning. You always know its a risk, but its also in a mans nature to believe he can affect a different outcome with enough work and sacrifice.

I just really wanted to be a father and husband. I’ll always be a father now, even if I will never again be a husband. It might be my fault, but when I look at my daughter, I can’t really blame myself too hard.

“I know your race. It is made up of sheep. It is governed by minorities, seldom or never by majorities. It suppresses its feelings and its beliefs and follows the handful that makes the most noise." The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Now im calling you out you said”the man” never heard anyone here use it in the context you did!

Usually men say “were” or “men.” Why the mental disassciation?

Also explain your patriarchy” statement

You a chik, simple?

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Maybe I’m just perturbed but hey I could be wrong.I’ll leave it.

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

Oh man im just gonna wait for it. At the sushi bar now ordering a sake bomb.

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