My fallen brother

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

I think some men see normality in their misery. Their only solution is to seek further misery to feel normal again. The cycle just goes on and on for some and the red pill is a mythical fantasy they will never accept.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[Tao-SkyParticipant 129]

I think it’s worse when things go well in the beginning and dudes get pulled in. After 4-6 months of good sex and unicorn type female behavior I don’t know of many guys who will eject at a red flag or two. The drug of sex is too strong, it usually takes major pain at that point to wake up. It’s like an addict who’ll do all kinds of stuff for his fix.

Women are masters of the bait and switch.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I feel sorry for this guy. I was a “nice guy” a long time ago. I remember trying to buy the love of my wife. I was a sap. When my loving wife ran off, I also drank a lot for a while.
Sometimes a man has to be abused before his eyes are opened.
Hopefully he will learn from his mistakes.
His wife sounds like a real jewel. Complete bitch.
I wouldn’t be surprised to se him around here some day

[TwistParticipant]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

I feel sorry for this guy. I was a “nice guy” a long time ago. I remember trying to buy the love of my wife. I was a sap. When my loving wife ran off, I also drank a lot for a while.
Sometimes a man has to be abused before his eyes are opened.
Hopefully he will learn from his mistakes.

This is just more of the s~~~ sandwich conditioning that society translates into “man up”. Why else would anyone accept this crap?

I read an interesting observation of the two kinds of men who marry women with BPD (and since most women seem like they have some flavor of BPD, let’s just say AWALT). Any way – two kinds of men, and hence marriages to BPD women:

1. The man has strong boundaries (no s~~~ sandwiches), calls her on her BS and bails on the clearly unworkable after 6 months or so.

2. The man has weak boundaries (mangina) and continues trying to fix things that are beyond his control. This marriage lasts for about 15 years of hell, before she bails due to him being unable to make her happy.

MGTOW will help breed more #1s.

[Faith+1Participant 866]

Jesus. And I have a friend that is now dating a single mom of two kids. I’m not 100% on it but I think they have different fathers, I dread to think what gonna happen. Yet he mocks me for being single….. not in a cruel way but more of a pity stance.

I’ll have the last laugh when shs does the ole pinhole in the condom trick….

[JVBParticipant]

Sorry about your friend and his present situation. I feel he will not change and some men cannot stand the thaught of being without a women. It seems to be his nature to allow women to work him. Although completely f~~~ed up it actually makes him feel like he matters.

Peace is > piece.

[JVBParticipant]

Last laugh you will have indeed faith+1

Peace is > piece.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Wow, f~~~. The scary part is I can’t say for sure (not that it would have been likely for me to get a broad anyway) that I wouldn’t have gone down the same path he and many others have gone down had I stayed blue pill.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[channel-zParticipant 228]

I hope he is at least able to cut back on the beer and cigarettes. That might help him more clearly see a red pill future the next time you talk to him.

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

I would have said: “force some red pill down his throat already!” but:

Phantom wrote:

Some of us had to be burned a few times, slow learners, stubborn, pussy whipped, and so on & so forth.

&

Tao-Sky wrote:

All blue pills need to go through a painful transition where they learn to dirive happiness from themselves,

So experience is still the best teacher.

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[the roadParticipant 3125]

Akanbi wrote:

I would have said: “force some red pill down his throat already!” but:

MGTOW Age wrote:

Some of us had to be burned a few times, slow learners, stubborn, pussy whipped, and so on & so forth.

&

Tao-Sky wrote:

All blue pills need to go through a painful transition where they learn to dirive happiness from themselves,

So experience is still the best teacher.

People will fight to protect their belief systems. It’s amazing how powerful a belief can be.

In the case of my friend, he’s that type of person. I believe that if I committed a full on red pill assault on him that he would cover his ears and completely retreat and withdraw from any type of rescue.

The only thing I believe that might even possibly work is for me to be calm, cool, and consistently deliver small red pill doses. I typically do this naturally so it won’t really be any big effort on my part. I just need to make sure to not push him too hard and completely turn him off from the truth.

#MANOUT

[the roadParticipant 3125]

Jim01 wrote:

the road wrote:

Skeptisk wrote:

I don’t think he can be saved. He’s too much of a blue pill to even start going his own way.

I’m hoping not. Even though he and I don’t get together that often anymore, I still consider him to be one my best friends. I won’t give up on him yet. I’ve dropped a few mini red pills on him to see how far he’s ready to take it and he retreated back a little because, as is obvious, he’s just not ready. I also sent him a link to redonkulas.com so as to mix in a little humor with Terrance Popp but he never replied on whether he watched anything or not.

I won’t push him right now but I won’t give up on him yet either.

I used to be like that but now I don’t bother anymore.

People like him will throw you under the bus for a whiff of fanny so no matter what you do to try to help him, at the end of the day it won’t matter.

you said yourself how stupid he is getting straight back into dating….how can you help someone like that? It is like sticking food in front of an animal and asking them not to eat it – pointless

I hear what you are saying. It’s logical and I agree for the most part.

I believe that in a lot of cases like this, the motivation to jump right in is caused by their chemical addiction to “love”. He has a huge need that isn’t getting filled and he doesn’t know how to address it. He’s acting like a junkie. He is also probably thinking that he can make his estranged wife jealous.

I’ve been in this boat before like many others. It’s nearly impossible to be saved.

If he can make it through this first phase without doubling down and getting himself in deeper, I’ll still be around for him and dropping red pills.

What can I say? I love the guy, he’s family to me.

#MANOUT

[Darth TyrannusParticipant 349]

the road wrote:

Found out the the wife of one of my best friends left him over a month ago. I had no clue until a week ago, he kept it very silent.

They were high school “sweethearts” who split up but later reconnected in their mid 20s. At that point, she had been married and had two kids. My buddy “loved” her so much that he got an apartment with her right away and started playing daddy and got her knocked up soon after. He s~~~ his pants but went along with it.

He started trying to make more money and over time he opened up a family business that continues to pay him a decent wage. She barely worked of course and benefited from him making more money.

About 10 years ago she started acting like a skank around all of us. She left him after some s~~~ went down. We heard through the grapevine that she was banging two of his homeboys but we had no “proof” of it, only rumor. Also found out that she was f~~~ing some repair guy that would come around to her work. Again, no “proof”. A friend of a friend also overheard one of her phone conversations where she was erratic and said “What do you want me to do, have an abortion?”

My buddy and his whore wife got back together and suddenly it’s announced that she’s pregnant. Many of us told him that this s~~~ is fishy as f~~~ and that she must have done something s~~~ty. He essentially told us all: “I believe her over anyone else”.

About 10 months later, her 4th child is born (which is his 2nd). It became the talk of our group of friends that this child looks exactly like one of the guys she was supposedly f~~~ing around with. My buddy stayed with his whore wife and supported this child that looked nothing like him. He mentioned a DNA test once and never followed through with it.

I stopped hanging out with him because she was always a major bitch and had him scrambling to split time with her. If I was over at their house, he would leave me hanging out in the back while he went in to watch a TV show with her. WTF?

He slowly morphed into what she wanted. A whooped dog that would do her bidding. He bought her two homes, cars, a hot tub, vacations, jewelry, fancy dinners, etc…

Now here we are, she left him after paying off all her credit cards with their joint bank account, moved out, got an apartment, maxed out the credit cards to buy furniture and told him that she isn’t in love with him and isn’t attracted to him.

He’s spent every night since then living in misery, drinking at least a case of beer a night (he’s a big guy who can put them down), and smoking 2 – 3 packs a day.

The part of this that really irks me is that through all of this, his first instinct was to go on a dating site and start looking for another woman…

Satan almighty what a pathetic shell of a man er I meant male! I hope that male overdoses on alcohol because males like him are responsible for the s~~~ty state of this ball of s~~~ called Earth!

[the roadParticipant 3125]

Darth Tyrannus wrote:

the road wrote:

Found out the the wife of one of my best friends left him over a month ago. I had no clue until a week ago, he kept it very silent.

They were high school “sweethearts” who split up but later reconnected in their mid 20s. At that point, she had been married and had two kids. My buddy “loved” her so much that he got an apartment with her right away and started playing daddy and got her knocked up soon after. He s~~~ his pants but went along with it.

He started trying to make more money and over time he opened up a family business that continues to pay him a decent wage. She barely worked of course and benefited from him making more money.

About 10 years ago she started acting like a skank around all of us. She left him after some s~~~ went down. We heard through the grapevine that she was banging two of his homeboys but we had no “proof” of it, only rumor. Also found out that she was f~~~ing some repair guy that would come around to her work. Again, no “proof”. A friend of a friend also overheard one of her phone conversations where she was erratic and said “What do you want me to do, have an abortion?”

My buddy and his whore wife got back together and suddenly it’s announced that she’s pregnant. Many of us told him that this s~~~ is fishy as f~~~ and that she must have done something s~~~ty. He essentially told us all: “I believe her over anyone else”.

About 10 months later, her 4th child is born (which is his 2nd). It became the talk of our group of friends that this child looks exactly like one of the guys she was supposedly f~~~ing around with. My buddy stayed with his whore wife and supported this child that looked nothing like him. He mentioned a DNA test once and never followed through with it.

I stopped hanging out with him because she was always a major bitch and had him scrambling to split time with her. If I was over at their house, he would leave me hanging out in the back while he went in to watch a TV show with her. WTF?

He slowly morphed into what she wanted. A whooped dog that would do her bidding. He bought her two homes, cars, a hot tub, vacations, jewelry, fancy dinners, etc…

Now here we are, she left him after paying off all her credit cards with their joint bank account, moved out, got an apartment, maxed out the credit cards to buy furniture and told him that she isn’t in love with him and isn’t attracted to him.

He’s spent every night since then living in misery, drinking at least a case of beer a night (he’s a big guy who can put them down), and smoking 2 – 3 packs a day.

The part of this that really irks me is that through all of this, his first instinct was to go on a dating site and start looking for another woman…

Satan almighty what a pathetic shell of a man er I meant male! I hope that male overdoses on alcohol because males like him are responsible for the s~~~ty state of this ball of s~~~ called Earth!

I don’t blame him for doing what he thought was right. I do believe that he needs to pay for his mistakes though.

He did you no wrong so I’m not quite sure why you would wish him ill.

#MANOUT

[Darth TyrannusParticipant 349]

You’ve got a good point in asking why I would wish him ill-will. The reason is because we have too many like him keeping females even when they subconsciously know they’re cheating behind their back and letting them destroy what they’ve worked their ass off for. We have males ready to hop back into the dating market ready to get eviserated again despite plenty of better choices available. Maybe the more accurate description is I wish ill-will on those characteristics rather than the male himself. I just don’t get why too many males are so eager to get eviscerated again especially after being loyal the whole damn time.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Akanbi wrote:

So experience is still the best teacher.

Hi @Afrikan-Alpha15 ^Yeah, it drives those lessons home, as they say.

I really had to contemplate this in my life. I know I used to live by that like some kind of creed, when I was in blue pill hell. I learnt countless life lessons the hard way.

Field work is a lot more dangerous than lab/theory class, but you do get the hands-on training taking that route.

These days I strive for learning from wise men as best I can.
It beats the hell out of learning s~~~ the hard way by way of trial and error.

I got fed up with being in error more times than not, and being able to learn something by heeding words of wisdom is/has by far, been much more rewarding.

I plan on being a student til my dying breath, the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don’t know.

[Anonymous 3]

Cliche, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink. It’s all up to him.

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