My 15 year old daughter and her Chad

[TaxGuyParticipant]

My daughter has a Chad chasing her. She’s a freshman in high school and so is he. She REALLY wants to date him, but knows he is a liar and a cheater. Mom is totally against it. The other thing to know is my daughter has OCD and is freaked out about getting pregnant. She is afraid to sit on a toilet seat that a guy has sat on. So I’m not really too worried about her having sex with Chad. She has told Chad no and he said that just makes him want her more.

I am supposed to have a conversation in a couple days with the ex about Chad. I am going to say that I think she should date him if she wants to . Here is my side of the conversation that I have thought out in my head. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. OK, here it goes:

What I would say to 15 is, “he told you that you saying no makes him want you more right? So, what he is telling you is that he doesn’t really care about you, it’s an ego thing for him. He didn’t talk about what a great friend you are, how much fun you are to be around, or anything that said anything about your positive aspects. The fact is you told him no and now his ego is hurt. And he’s going to do whatever it takes to restore his ego. He may even have a bet with his friends that he’s trying to win.

You have watched him lie to and cheat on every girl he’s dated. What the f~~~ makes you think he won’t do that to you? He’s already basically told you that he doesn’t care about you, so there’s nothing you can do to stop it. As much as I love you, you aren’t head and shoulders so far above every other girl that was ever born that he’s going to stop cheating. Because, again, it’s not about you. He will lie to you and cheat on you and break your heart.

With that said, go ahead and date him. For some reason, girls have to date Chad and get their heart broken. It’s almost a right of passage. It doesn’t matter how many times you are told not to touch a hot stove, and no matter how many other people you see touch it and get burned, you have to touch it for yourself. So by all means go let this little prick rip your f~~~ing heart out. Get it over with.”

My thought is better to date Chad at 15 than 19 and end up pregnant. For the record, when the ex was 15 she was dating a 19 year old just to p~~~ off her dad. I’ll remind her of that one too.

The bottom line is that at some point you have to let your kids make their own mistakes. I’d rather let her make this mistake at 15 and go through the inevitable high school heartbreak than delay it and have it be even worse.

Like I said, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

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[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Sorry to sound insensitive. I’d tell her to always use a condom and try not to be intimate with boys with a high “mileage” as she might get herpes and other stuff.

Convincing her not to have sex is pointless.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Get her one of the implanted birth control things. So she can’t forget.

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[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Ummm. Awkward, but don’t think you can do that if she’s a virgin?

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Gentlemen:

Ignore the sex for a minute. She has OCD, takes medication for it. She WON’T have sex with him. She won’t shower at my apartment because a guy takes a shower in there and she’s afraid that using the same shower will get her pregnant. I’m talking about the relationship advice. Am I that spot on, that all you are focused on is sex?

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[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Hard to control a teenager. Best you can do is express your concerns. Also keep in mind her age. Chad is potentially messing with a minor. It may be more effective to approach him (as discretely as possible) and let him know he’s looking at a record if he pursues her. She may and will be p~~~ed at you now – but you’d only be protecting your child – and someday she’ll likely understand. Good luck!

[Anonymous 42]

It’s better her heart is crushed by her violating the trust and faith you place in her, than for her to do something out of spite for any overbearing distrust you place on her by overruling her and restricting her freedom…

Tough call TaxGuy, letting her walk out on a ledge with only the echo of your guidance is much better than corralling her in the fencing of distrust, only to have her jump the fence and straight over the edge onto the jagged rocks of reality.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

He’s a freshman too so it doesn’t apply.

I don’t think I can help much as I’ve never understood in depth the teenage girl psychology. But what I do know is:

* If you forbid them to do sth, they do the opposite.
* Teenagers who don’t want to have sex are rare.
* They care a lot about image. They are more afraid of getting embarrassed in front of their friends than getting hurt.

You can use these to your advantage.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I dread the moment my daughter becomes a teenager and starts dating. But on the other hand- I’m actually waiting for it, because nobody else from her surrounding could talk any sense to her. Even if I fail to explain it to her – nobody could blame me for not trying or not being there. There is a lot of anxiety. She is the only hope I have for my genetic lineage, so when you have all the eggs in one basket – you are naturally worried more than necessary. She’s 7 now, so it’s still ways ahead. I’ll have some time to think how should I approach this problem

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

xlrsnbrg wrote:

Ummm. Awkward, but don’t think you can do that if she’s a virgin?

Yes you can. It goes in the bicep.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levonorgestrel_implant

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[Anonymous 42]

There’s always the baseball bat option with Chad as a last resort.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

There’s always the baseball bat option with Chad as a last resort.

I like cleaning a gun when they come over for the first time!

Seriously, thanks guys. It’s not easy to watch your daughter be a stupid f~~~ing girl sometimes. As I said before, I’m not worried about sex. When I say he’s a Chad, I don’t mean he is banging every girl in school. He’s dated a few, and every time he has one he is on the hunt for the next one. Get what he can get and get out. He won’t get much from my kid so he won’t be around long.

It’s just truly eye-opening to watch the AWALT parts of women. And getting f~~~ed over by a piece of s~~~ is truly a right of passage for a girl. He also tells her that he’s depressed sometimes. Looking for attention. My response to that is then why would you date him? He gets a girlfriend and you get a job? That’s a s~~~ deal for you.

The one thing I will say after being here for a while is the boys are going to have to up their game to get one by my kid. Because I know all of the PUA s~~~ too, and can see the manipulation much clearer, and can pass all of that on to my girls.

But again, she’s gonna have to burn her finger to learn the lesson. In that way, AWALT.

Pay attention Russky. This will be you soon enough!!

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[Anonymous 54]

Chads can be very convincing.Tell chad your not afraid to go back to prison. Tell chad you will kill him if he does anything to hurt your daughter.MEAN IT. Fear is a great motivater.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I think the most important thing to explain your daughter – is to make sure she understands that female nature incorporates two competing drives – one for bad boys – one for provider good types and to learn to recognize them – avoid acting on the former and to embrace the latter.
Other thing – is to convey that boys who are acting alpha and actively seeking girls – are the ones you have to avoid, because they won’t stay around.
Another thing to explain – is that love is just like drugs: the strength of it and ability to pair bond decreases exponentially with every belt notch.
And that in order for her to find a good man – she’d have to find him herself and make first moves. Because good guys don’t act like PUAs and don’t normally hit anything that moves.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

TaxGuy, I like my parents, but I wish they’d been more like you.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Anonymous 42]

TaxGuy wrote:

I like cleaning a gun when they come over for the first time!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha, 12ga double barrel no less!

^^^^^Russky is ready, he sees it coming!

I love kids, I really do, but I’m glad all my children took the latex plunge.

[RennieParticipant]

Well. I just remembered another reason I went MGTOW…

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Update:. I had dinner with the girls tonight. Apparently 15 and Chad are a “thing”. NOT her boyfriend!!

I’ve never seen her blush that much. For now I just reminded her that he isn’t a faithful guy. She knows it. So, still pretty innocent as of now. This is going to be interesting.

At some point you have to let them make their own mistakes and be there to pick up the pieces. Hopefully it’s a small mistake….

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[TaxGuyParticipant]

xlrsnbrg wrote:

TaxGuy, I like my parents, but I wish they’d been more like you.

Thanks. But that’s the cool thing about this website. You get to learn from 15,000 other guys. Whoever is f~~~ing with the website can suck it. You’re messing with my safe space.

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[Anonymous 42]

TaxGuy wrote:

Whoever is f~~~ing with the website can suck it. You’re messing with my safe space.

I’m triggered! Waaaaaaaaaaa! I’m changing my avatar handle to MG-Trigglypuff! <arms flailing up and down> F~~~ you! Fuuuccck You! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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