Muslims

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

Anyone else getting sick and tired of people trying to defend islam as a peaceful religion? Literally every part of history includes muslims destroying s~~~. America was founded on strong traditional and conservative values.  Lets keep it that way boys.  Feminism is bad, but the muslims around the world need to wake the f~~~ up and fix their religion. I don’t trust them in the mall, on the streets or in the f~~~ing grocery store. who the hell wears towels on their head in the 21st century?

[JinParticipant 77]

Religion is so open-ended that it’s easily misinterpreted.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

[DilbertParticipant 281]

People seeking power to rob others of their freedom and property have historically used any handy ideology that moves them towards their objectives.  Some (like Islam) actually advocate things like violence, murder, theft, etc which makes it even easier to use and brings the added bonus of unthinking adherents more willing to do their dirty work.

 

It is for very good reasons the Devil chose to tempt Eve not Adam...

[Anonymous 1]

All religion can be harmful and violent. If you look hard enough, you can see any religion being used to promote murder, rape, theft, you name it, not just muslims.

The problem that I see on the Islam is that they have this notion that they have the gender relations figured out. They haven’t. In fact, if you think about it, they are the most blue pill men of us all.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Islam is the only religion that I have come across that is absolutely intolerant and advocates death to infidels. I am not Muslim, nor do I want to become one, but I must admit, it is also the best religion at keeping their women in check. I think we can learn a lot from how Islam handles women, apart from that, I don’t identify with it nor support it. Then again I don’t support much of what I see in the current environment, would I vote Islam or Feminism? What a f~~~ed choice, no wonder MGTOW is expanding. Surely some form of natural order would be better, Patriarchy would be ideal 🙂 Religion is just another form of social control, keep the masses in ignorant bliss, blindly following the script. MGTOW is still the rational choice.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[griffinParticipant 189]

Schaefe89 wrote:

Anyone else getting sick and tired of people trying to defend islam as a peaceful religion? Literally every part of history includes muslims destroying s~~~. America was founded on strong traditional and conservative values. Lets keep it that way boys. Feminism is bad, but the muslims around the world need to wake the f~~~ up and fix their religion. I don’t trust them in the mall, on the streets or in the f~~~ing grocery store. who the hell wears towels on their head in the 21st century?

Apparently you’ve never read the old testament…

Islam IS a peaceful religion, but like every religion it has it’s extremists.

Every part of North America’s history has it destroying s~~~ as well, Hell the US alone has invaded 70 different countries since 1776 apparently…Iran as an example haven’t invaded anyone in well over 200 years..

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

The thing that worries me most about Muslims are their uses of “Taqiyya” and “Kitman…”  If you don’t know what it is, it basically means they’re allowed to lie about anything to either escape “persecution” or (and this is the more concerning part) to “further their cause.”  In other words, one can simply lie about being “peaceful” and “kind” just to let themselves in.  The problem here is that many have fallen for that.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

So basically those who follow Islam pretend to be good people but behave like assholes very often, and then claim that the assholes are “not true muslims”.

Reminds me of another ideology, but I can’t put my finger on it, I think it starts with an “f”.

P.S.: I consider all religions to be a waste of time, I don’t get how believing in some fairy is gonna help me in any way. Believing in god is just another way of not taking responsibility for yourself, by letting a “higher power” dictate your life.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I’m with the OP on this, and here is a site which I visit regularly: Front Page Magazine.
David Horowitz is the founder of this site and an interesting fellow in his own right. I recommend reading his autobiography; it’s a real eye opener. Horowitz was recently banned from speaking at some university because the Muslim students claimed he offended them.

Islam IS a peaceful religion, …

No it is not. Death to infidels, lying to and cheating infidels, beating women, and terrorism are all in their holy books and widely preached in their congregations.

Lying to infidels deserves special mention. Their holy book’s definition of ‘peace’ is the infidels are vanquished and converted or enslaved, but it does not mean “freedom from disturbance; quiet and tranquility,” or “freedom from or the cessation of war or violence.” Those are our definitions, not theirs. When they say they ‘want peace’ they are deliberately lying to us.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[chirParticipant]

Vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.  Then they have their extremists.  The “Muslim Problem” comes from the fact that the “peaceful” Muslims are giving approval to the extremists by staying silent.   If the Muslim leaders wanted to they could stop this.  They aren’t, so the violence is approved by the leaders of the Muslim faith.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Peaceful?

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

Yep….Yeah…..Peaceful….absolutely…..suicide vest anyone?

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hey Gents. We have a handful of forum guidelines – and we’re hoping to eventually have none. You guys are all awesome at self-moderation. In fact, you’ve all been successful in maintaining a standard that no one else on any MGTOW forum has done previously. They were always closed off , with limited entry and participation dependent on acceptance of mandatory introductions. We did away with that s~~~ for nearly a year. Successfully.

We ask that you kindly refrain from overly-criticizing any race or religion.
Or more to the point. Don’t. it’s always capital B.A.D.

My father once told me not to ever discuss politics or religion with anyone. Turned out to be million-dollar advice. It’s “classy”. In the UK, when you go to a pub, there is widely known unspoken etiquette that those topics are off the table. Bringing it up is very bad form and everyone understands it. It never accomplishes anything and always leads to flaming arrows being thrown around.

Religion is a belief system held close to your heart. MGTTOW is a lifestyle choice based entirely in reality.
You can believe in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny, and still live a MGTOW lifestyle.

Naturally, I expect pushback on this. But I would think you would all applaud it as a very excellent standard.

NOTHING NEGATIVE can possibly come from leaving heavy religious debate out of the discussion.
But it’s a virtual guarantee that ONLY NEGATIVE can come from allowing it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Roger, KM. Willco.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[chirParticipant]

No Prob.  KM.

do no harm, and go your own way.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[RennieParticipant]

griffin wrote:

Schaefe89 wrote:

Anyone else getting sick and tired of people trying to defend islam as a peaceful religion? Literally every part of history includes muslims destroying s~~~. America was founded on strong traditional and conservative values. Lets keep it that way boys. Feminism is bad, but the muslims around the world need to wake the f~~~ up and fix their religion. I don’t trust them in the mall, on the streets or in the f~~~ing grocery store. who the hell wears towels on their head in the 21st century?

Apparently you’ve never read the old testament… Islam IS a peaceful religion, but like every religion it has it’s extremists. Every part of North America’s history has it destroying s~~~ as well, Hell the US alone has invaded 70 different countries since 1776 apparently…Iran as an example haven’t invaded anyone in well over 200 years..

You need to read the quran, don’t just believe whatever you read off the internet. There is also no mention of islam in the proper Bible translations, anywhere, at all. If it wasn’t for the hated white man there wouldn’t be any order or peace in the world. Most of the stuff you take for granted would not exist either.

Iran is also anything but peaceful these days. I don’t need to explain why because it should already be plenty obvious.

[Anonymous 12]

What keeps blowing me away is that the people who defend Islam are (except the Muslims of course) are Lefties. Islam to me seems the very antithesis of everything the Left hold dear, no more women’s rights, all the meat you can handle unless it’s pork, no animal rights, they seem indifferent to the environment, education is something the rich kids might get. There is no tolerance for other religions and Atheism would be scandalous (Most Lefties are Atheist), Sharia law features the death penalty which Lefties also oppose, Homosexuality would be punishable by death etc etc

The only reason I can think of as to why Lefties defend this religion so much is that it is because they both hate the West and Christianity with a passion.

 

 

 

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

chir wrote:

Vast majority of Muslims are peaceful.

I am going to call that not entirely accurate.

Here is a link to the pew research poll http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

Now all that being said there was a time before world war 2 where they were getting along (mostly) with everyone else and it was Yasar Arafaths (he changed his name to hide the connection) grandfather (AMIN AL-HUSSEINI) that re-radicalized the faith.

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

Anonymous wrote:

All religion can be harmful and violent. If you look hard enough, you can see any religion being used to promote murder, rape, theft, you name it, not just muslims. The problem that I see on the Islam is that they have this notion that they have the gender relations figured out. They haven’t. In fact, if you think about it, they are the most blue pill men of us all.

 

Try to learn about Buddhism, mate.

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

no one can tell me that islam is peaceful when the worst region in the world for the past 2000 years is……. the middle east.. do the math and figure it out.

[Anonymous 42]

AFT wrote:

would I vote Islam or Feminism?

 

FEMINISM

ISLAM

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