MRA sandman?

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

I’m quite curious as to why Sandman gets trash talked, as Sandman’s videos are how I found MGTOW, or led me to MGTOW.

Now I hear nothing but trash talking about him. Make no mistake, I’m not picking favorites or anything. However, I’d like a brief synopsis/summary of the issue. This is simply so I can avoid watching videos that may contain misinformation.

I’m well aware that just because you’re finding videos on youtube from certain channels doesn’t mean you’re chronologically ideal. Some videos can have years passing between themselves and others. Thanks.

Also, if this is too sensitive a topic (as I don’t like to start drama) and the explanation isn’t worth the s~~~ storm, I’m okay with that too. Just say so.

However, I would hope that us men could remain objective and not let emotions get in the way of an adequate explanation.

[ComingInHotParticipant 160]

Exsliventxs wrote:

I’m quite curious as to why Sandman gets trash talked, as Sandman’s videos are how I found MGTOW, or led me to MGTOW. Now I hear nothing but trash talking about him. Make no mistake, I’m not picking favorites or anything. However, I’d like a brief synopsis/summary of the issue. This is simply so I can avoid watching videos that may contain misinformation. I’m well aware that just because you’re finding videos on youtube from certain channels doesn’t mean you’re chronologically ideal. Some videos can have years passing between themselves and others. Thanks. Also, if this is too sensitive a topic (as I don’t like to start drama) and the explanation isn’t worth the s~~~ storm, I’m okay with that too. Just say so. However, I would hope that us men could remain objective and not let emotions get in the way of an adequate explanation.

No offense or s~~~ storm will be had, this is not a women’s site it is a mans site and it is all good.  Sandman used the guise of being a MGTOW, supported the movement, took money to talk about it, then did a total 180 and just detonated a small thermonuclear device on his listeners, supporters, etc.

In all honesty, somebody correct me if I am wrong, but he called MGTOW’s: cowards, and then went on a rant about how we are scared, cowards and essentially displaying cowardice by walking away from women, while he “holier then thou” made sacrifices and got over his problems with women.

Keymaster should chime in as he already talked about it I believe.  Sandman used every illogical “women like” argument about being MGTOW and the entire MGTOW movement.

While I dont know Sandman personally, he ultimately launched a sam (surface to air missile) onto his own plane and as Keymaster elicited, Sandman is going down, who knows if hell eject in time and make an apology.

As far as I am concerned go **** himself with his double standard trivial BS.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

He reconciled with women? If you take that 70% of all women  file for divorce and of the remaining 30% approximately half are sticking it out until the kids are grown/through school then you’re looking at 15%.

It is possible he found a woman that doesn’t buy into the feminist B.S.

The problem with this is that he just doesn’t know what % hes dealing with, might not be the 15%.

Which brings me to the next interpretation of your post, he reminds me of Cipher (Cypher?) from the Matrix series. He denounces MGTOW and then plugs himself back in, because he’d rather live through the B.S than not.

Personally, sounds like some chick got her claws in him. Which is going to be hilarious if she turns into some feminazi that just wanted to conquer a self proclaimed “strong minded man”.

Well enough theorizing.

 

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Please feel free to read the comments, on the discussion we had not long ago:

/forums/topic/the-mgtow-com-sandman-jet-fighter-welcome-video-has-been-stricken/

Basically Sandman must have found his NAWALT Unicorn, which is no problem to me, or I would say any of us here.
The problem arose when he decided it was just a phase he was going through and to try to “Shame” MGTOW, by calling us cowards, because he has now found his Unicorn and changed his life philosophy 180′. He probably did it to impress his unicorn. I know what it was like being Blue Pill, buying into the system box and dice. If I ever found my NAWALT Unicorn, and decided to cohabitate, I don’t think there would be a man here that would give a flying f~~~ either way, in fact I think they would understand.
The biological urge is immense and I don’t blame anyone for giving in to it, but to turn your back on MGTOW and somehow unlearn all your Red Pill awareness to qualify for a piece of ass. Now that takes a special kind of Blue Pill Mangina, I don’t mean to shame, but really how can anyone here seriously block the cold hard truth of reality?
If the biological urge ever got the better of me, I’d still have my Red Pill awareness, I’d try to protect myself as best as possible. I could NEVER unlearn the Red Pill, even if I really wanted to, doesn’t matter how hard I tried. It’s not women, its the system, corrupt social order, how can he ignore it, without being a hypocrite?
I think he is too young, and will still get a good dose of Red Pill, he unfortunately must experience it fully to realize its truth.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Anonymous 42]

Sandman said his remarks toward MGTOW “monks”, he said we “wallow in our own filth” that was enough for me, I call him “Sandy” and that is the extent of my concern, I couldn’t care less. I have been betrayed by many people, It’s just a fact of life. If he were ever to apologize, I would call him SandMan, but for now it’s Sandy……….

[HimeoParticipant 471]

Sandman’s got three issues that p~~~ some of us off.

1) His content is short, shallow, and poorly sourced.

2) He is a shameless self-promoter and marketer. Like me on facebook and follow me on twitter to get tomorrows episode today! And thanks for taking your daily dose of red pills so enjoy the rest of your day and CHEEEERS!

3) The video a week or so ago when he pulled a 180 on us and called “MGTOW Monks” cowards.

F~~~ him.

[experiencedParticipant]

http://www.uplifting-love.com/2013/08/80-percent-of-divorces-are-filed-by.html

http://www.uplifting-love.com/2013/08/80-percent-of-divorces-are-filed-by.html

“According to the National Center for Health Statistics 50 percent of marriages in the United States end in divorce. Of the marriages that end in divorce, 80 percent of the divorces are initiated (filed) by women.”

my guess is that it’s not even close to topping out yet

 

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I never really listened to his videos, but I got the gist of it enough to know for the past 3 years that he was a major MGTOW symbol. I didn’t become any more of a MGTOW by any of his sayings, having been one since before anyone knew who Sandman was.

And then I read a post denouncing Sandman for his videos on how “MGTOWs are cowards for avoiding women”, so I checked out the video and was speechless. Then I checked out a video of some British guy cussing him out with “How DARE you f~~~ing call US cowards after what we’ve been through!” I read the comments that were tearing Sandman a new one. I also heard that Sandman’s “apology”, if you can call it that, was half-assed, if he made an apology at all. I can’t confirm this because I didn’t see the video of his so-called apology.

The MGTOW world now has it’s own Benedict Arnold. If anyone here isn’t aware of who Benedict Arnold was, he was a General who served under Washington in the American Revolution, helped defeat the Brits at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777, and then in 1780, he developed some kind of jealous belief that the high command wasn’t respecting him as much as he wanted, so he turned TRAITOR and went to the British side, becoming a general in their army in no time.

And apparently, all it took for Sandman to turn traitor was a piece of pussy who he believed was his NAWALT unicorn.

I’ve had friends who’ve done this before too. Friends of mine who I gave the whole MGTOW philosophy to, and they agreed that American/Western women are S~~~, and I thought they were invested in the Red Pill until it was all turned upside down just because some f~~~ing bitch decided to flirt with them, and so now they believe in “true love” and that “you just have to work at marriage to make it succeed”. One of them, who loved my points that I had to make 6 months earlier, had the B~~~~ to actually call me “bitter” and said “you just need a good girlfriend. I’ll try to set you up with a couple of girls and you’ll see what you’re missing out on”.

I’m certainly not showing them any YouTube Sandman videos, or allowing any of those blue-pillers to infiltrate this site.

[DakotaParticipant 341]

I listened to about 10 of his videos and was unimpressed.  Here are my thoughts:

1.  Firstly, he’s Canadian.  I go to Canada often.  Canadian’s are wonderful, kind and caring and I enjoy them and their country…BUT they are the descendants of the Loyalists (Loyal to a monarch, that is… BOO HISS) who fled North after Kind George received his royal ass-kicking.  Canadians think that what’s wrong with the world is that independent-minded men ruined it for everybody.  NOTHING p~~~es off a Canadian more than a man talking about going his OWN way.  Sandy made no friends there, I assure you.

2.  Never trust anyone who signs off with Cheers!   Gentlemen, don’t do this.  Just don’t.

3.  He seemed to talk a lot about making his own child by renting a womb…whatever.

4.  MGTOW should not engage in hero-worship for this very reason.  It is said, “Never meet your heroes” for a reason.

[MadmanParticipant 772]

Sandman did sort of apologize in one of his vids that came out after the Monks vid. He said we misinterpreted what he said. I still like his vids, but like anything associated with avfm its tainted.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Does anyone seriously believe he’s managed to find a NAWALT?

Madman wrote:

Sandman did sort of apologize in one of his vids that came out after the Monks vid. He said we misinterpreted what he said.

Blaming other people for a mistake he made is not an apology.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

sidecar wrote:

Does anyone seriously believe he’s managed to find a NAWALT? 

Yep, a NAWALT UNICORN, he’s sooo lucky.

Wish I believed in Unicorns too, but I can’t find any after I took those darn Red Pills 😉

That’s the whole point, how can anyone ignore the realities of the Red Pill, no less someone that was preaching MGTOW / Red Pill as a daily philosophy.  He is a hypocrite, and has no integrity, he has no honor, no fundamental basic core values.  He is just an opportunistic parasite, I hope the best for him and his NAWALT Unicorn.  I don’t really give a f~~~, now, nor will I when his Unicorn reveals she’s just another Madusa.  I’m glad he has revealed himself and his nature, somehow I feel his NAWALT Unicorn will be punishment enough.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

AFT wrote:

Yep, a NAWALT UNICORN, he’s sooo lucky.

Well I’m sure that’s what he believes right now, but just you wait…

AFT wrote:

He is a hypocrite,

He’s also an idiot, because you really would think someone purporting to be MGTOW would know better.  I never followed his videos because they seemed, well, kind of stupid (also money grubbing).  I mean didn’t he do one on women’s shoes of all things?  Well now I know it’s not just his videos that are stupid.

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