Movies where guy must improve self for woman

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Russky wrote:

I wonder if porn for girls includes scenes where the man has to change for her in some way

I think you raise a salient point Russky. I believe women are turned on moreso through fantasy, while men are more physically sexual and I think this creates resent between the two sexes.

Eg. Woman: “You just want one thing!”
Man: *Thought* Sex makes me feel intimate with you */Thought*

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[DybbukParticipant 182]

I don’t see why we should feel any disgust toward the movies. They are just reflecting reality: the world is full of manginas desperately trying to improve themselves to please women.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

The only movie I can think of which is the opposite – where a woman changes herself to get the guy – is Grease. And when Olivia Newton John’s character changes herself, it’s not for the better. She changes herself by becoming a skankball. As far as I know, there are no movies where a woman truly works on herself for the better to get a man. That is because women seldom do so in real life, if at all.

[DybbukParticipant 182]

MIKETOW wrote:

As far as I know, there are no movies where a woman truly works on herself for the better to get a man.

Maybe Superstar…Molly Shannon fantasizing about Will Ferrell…not a great movie, but it does fit.

The problem with this dichotomy is that the Rocky movie formula applies better to men than women. If a guy can’t get a date and then later he’s able to get dates with hot chicks, that’s a clear “win” that can make a good movie script. Reverse the roles and what happens is that even without the self-improvement, women are usually able to get dates with guys in their league. But the challenge is to get them to commit, with the guy hopefully not being a psycho or creep or abusive. That paradigm doesn’t lend itself to simplistic movie scripts with a clearly satisfying rah-rah finale.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Russky wrote:

I wonder if porn for girls includes scenes where the man has to change for her in some way

The most popular porn category for women is “Lesbians” where a lesbian seduces a straight woman who then proclaims “I never knew how much better sex can be with a women”. The point being no matter what a man does he can never be as good as a woman. Disgustingly anti-male.

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Dybbuk wrote:

I don’t see why we should feel any disgust toward the movies. They are just reflecting reality: the world is full of manginas desperately trying to improve themselves to please women.

The thing is that movies not only reflect what may be reality, they also influence it. They have the power to show what could be a better reality.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Dybbuk wrote:

MIKETOW wrote:

As far as I know, there are no movies where a woman truly works on herself for the better to get a man.

Maybe Superstar…Molly Shannon fantasizing about Will Ferrell…not a great movie, but it does fit.

The problem with this dichotomy is that the Rocky movie formula applies better to men than women. If a guy can’t get a date and then later he’s able to get dates with hot chicks, that’s a clear “win” that can make a good movie script. Reverse the roles and what happens is that even without the self-improvement, women are usually able to get dates with guys in their league. But the challenge is to get them to commit, with the guy hopefully not being a psycho or creep or abusive. That paradigm doesn’t lend itself to simplistic movie scripts with a clearly satisfying rah-rah finale.

I think “Runaway Bride” shows the closest thing to a woman “improving herself” to get the guy in the end. Of course, the woman acts like a complete bitch by ditching three different guys at the altar and then acts like it’s no big deal afterwards. She treats the newspaper gossip column reporter(Richard Gere)who has come to investigate her like he’s a pile of dog s~~~ almost the entire movie, and then she ditches Fiancée Number 4 at the last minute because she wants to marry Mr. Reporter on two days notice all of a sudden. Then she ditches HIM at the altar, hops on a FedEx truck, and casually watches him screaming her name and running after her and he is completely heartbroken. I gotta admit, I’m impressed that she later finds him, tells him about her weaknesses in why she feels like she has to run away each f~~~ing time, and shows improvement when they finally DO get married at the end of the movie.
But…
Is she really the kind of woman any of us would wanna marry even if we were manginas? Hell, she destroyed four different guys all wanting to marry her throughout the movie, and then marries Mr. Reporter who had come down to ruin her reputation just because he works for his ex-wife, and she pretty much tried to fire him because “his stories and gossip columns have no facts based to them” and he was trying to prove his ex wrong.
Yes, the bitch might have learned a lesson or two, but not exactly the kind of dream girl we all had in mind.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

FrederickTheGreat wrote:

What do you think about “Taken?”

I like action movies, however, the dude’s ex-wife p~~~ed me off. Why would someone let their 17 year old daughter, who hasn’t finished high school, screw around Europe with another teenage girl? If I had a daughter, I wouldn’t allow her to do that until she’s 18 years old or starting college. And I’d teach some of my survival skills to her before she leaves the house on her own.

Like you said, the bitch couldn’t be patriotic enough to stand by her husband while he’s trying to make the world a safer place by assassinating evil bastards.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I would say that this is a major theme of Don Jon. Depending on your view of MGTOW, it has some plus and minus sides to it. I would say it is worth a watch though.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Blue Valentine (as MGTOW day is approaching) was referred in a blog regarding women’s hypergamy;

“Dean (Ryan Gosling) is a man who idealistically buys the Blue Pill promise that men and women share a mutual love concept”

I watched it all as a lesson in Blue Pill Hell, I wouldn’t recommend it at all, other than an eye opening lesson in women’s hypergamy, and their absolutely selfish (solipsistic) and disgusting nature.

I’m looking forward to Bone Tomahawk, (it was recommended by lottery) to help get over the ugly truth of Blue Valentine.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[AFTParticipant 2722]

This is a pretty good example of the reality of female nature I was talking about, in Blue Valentine, a pretty good Red Pill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLgWoGV5URo

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[AscendedParticipant 698]

What about Matrix?

I know, the main character (Neo) didn’t have to improve himself for anybody but somehow he got together.
To be honest both characters didn’t have to improve for either side.

"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."

[GoingMYway81Participant 82]

Want to see a movie that will show just how feminist’s view the world? I watched a movie called witching and bitchin. (Spoilers ahead). It’s about a guy who is doing everything he can to keep his wife from taking his son away…even going to the extent of robbing a bank. In a series of events, and inadvertently landing in a witches coven with his friends and his little boy. He finds out they worship a female “god” and they believe that the female is a supreme being. They want to sacrifice the little boy to this “female god” in order to win favor of her. The whole movie just reeks of female distaste for men. Although it does have its funny moments…it’s best watched on an empty stomach.

Trust your manstincts...they will NEVER steer you wrong

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

the worst is when the movie shows a divorced guy trying to win back his ex-wife. 2012 made me want to puke, not just because it was a s~~~ty movie but for the story arc I just mentioned.

That’s why I hated Silver Linings Playbook. Same problem. The entire premise of that POS film involved a guy trying to win back his philandering ex-wife, who cheated on him with one of his co-workers – then filed a restraining order against him, when he simply reacted in the same way that any other guy would (attacking her lover). Yet he spends two-thirds of the movie trying to win her back and convince her that he’s changed. And nobody, repeat: NOBODY, takes him aside and asks him, “Dude, why are you going to this much trouble? This woman caused all of your misery in the first place.” And, of course, the ex-wife gets absolutely no comeuppance at the end.

That patronising, unfunny, appallingly written film was void of any entertainment value. And no, Jennifer Lawrence’s “performance” was NOT Oscar-worthy in any way. I swear that Harvey Weinstein bought that Oscar for her. She brought nothing particularly special or noteworthy to the role. Her character was neither realistic nor empathetic nor likeable. I didn’t feel that Bradley Cooper’s character was upgrading at the end. It felt more like he was just going from one crazy bitch to another. When the movie arrived at its inevitable happy ending, I didn’t feel joy. I felt sorry for the guy that Lawrence’s character was still a part of his life, and dreaded what kind of hell awaited him in the future.

And yeah, I’m with AFT – Blue Valentine is another gleaming example.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

“Pride and Prejudice” is my choice for best female catnip and the top chick flick.

Any movies based on Jane Austin’s books support the “guy must improve self for woman” propaganda, but Austin’s approach is more subtle and diabolical. Her approach is that a woman is a positive influence on a man. The diabolical part is that Austin really portrays single men as filthy beasts by nature.

This crap permeates much of our culture and especially the Romance movies.

It is interesting how women will promote the following PROPAGANDA:

Feminine influences will make a male happier, fun loving, kind, and compassionate;

The single males are depicted as socially/ emotionally retarded, having no soul, and unfulfilled in life;

A healthy feminine woman will help a man contribute to civilized society.

Some reasons why this type of propaganda is soppy dribble:

Nikola Tesla. MGTOW’s are awesome and the MGTOW life is enjoyable/ satisfying.

Females actually influence males to be more combative and aggressive. Female pheromones help to generate more testosterone in males;

Females always want the strongest males. This is demonstrated in female hypergamy;

Female Nature identifies “kindness” as weakness. A male who is too earnest and easy to manipulate is repugnant to women;

Female Nature is really a filthy mule pretending to be a Unicorn.

The movies “Gone Baby Gone” and “Knock Knock” showed Women’s Nature more realistically, but covered it up with NAWALT. These psychopathic women were shown to be on the fringe or a special case. The manly men who are played by popular action hero actors were effectively castrated and ruined by these women. They emasculated Neo!

However, Lesbian separatists and Women’s Studies Academics are pushing their newest flagship movie “Suffragettes.” If you can get past the nauseating stench of s~~~ and loathsome manipulation, it is a well-made movie and fun to watch. Most of the Heroines are pretty women which makes it more of a fantasy story like “Cinderella.”

And no matter how hard they tried to denigrate men, these guys were powerful and awesome. The few enablers, white nights, and “manginas” were sniveling twerps. The majority of the stronger vilified males made statements and predictions that are true.

There are some modern cable TV movie series that show times when men were men like Vikings, Black Sails, and Highlander. But, the hive still finds ways to show Unicorns or NAWALT and emasculate men in these movies.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

One movie that really burns me up is “The Other Man” where Liam Neeson plays a man who goes to Italy to look for his disappeared wife and than meets a man, Antonio Bandares, who he discovers was having an affair with her before she died there. His spoiled bitch of a daughter defends her. He then plans to humiliate the lover at a formal dinner but actually ends up toasting him to please his daughter. What a pussy. I’ve always respected Neeson as an actor but have no respect for his choice in taking this part.

[AristotleParticipant 48]

From an influence perspective, it’s a great movie concept to keep the blue pill alive.

1. It communicates that if a guy is shot down, it’s his fault for not being good enough.

2. It communicates that women by nature of their gender have higher status than males, and thus males must work to be good enough for women.

3. It communicates that a woman is the ultimate prize, worth giving everything up for.

4. It communicates that no women wants a man who is himself, they want the version of him that is the most catered to her preferences.

5. (related to 1) It communicates that a man is never good enough just based on the virtue of who is is.

The funniest thing about it though is the innate contradiction it makes of “Just be yourself”, because most of these movies start out with a dude being himself, he gets shot down, he changes himself and gets the girl.

“Just be yourself” is great advice by women to men for women. It makes it very easy to “filter” away the betas, omegas and gammas, because “Just be yourself” is equivalent to the IRS telling someone “Just tell me if you cheated on your taxes and I’ll help”

It makes it clear that women prefer finished project instead of potential. If you look at the “counter-example” in “She’s all that” all it communicates is “Stop wearing overalls, problematic glasses and a ponytail”.

There is no actual work involved.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

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[Anonymous 5]

I watched some TV show the other day that would have made you guys laugh/puke/angry.

The show was something called “Beastly”?

I don’t know. But the storyline was the main character was a human who sometimes transforms into a beast when he is angry or some s~~~. He recently lost his girlfriend “because he become a monster”. They kept on discussing how he needs to control himself/inner beast/anger issues because he loves her and HE needs to change. He spent the entire episode PROVING to everyone and the girl he can fight/solve his problems without turning into a monster.

It was f~~~ing hilarious.

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