The Moose's trip down the rabbit hole…

[MooseParticipant 154]

I will do my best to avoid writing a novel, as I don’t want to bore anyone to death. So I am simply going to begin listing my red pill experiences, what I learned, and when I adopted the MGTOW lifestyle before ever having heard of MGTOW.

1. Graduated from college in 2006 and again in 2009 – learned that college education was utterly useless. Makes no sense to me that college is so freaking important, yet it doesn’t qualify you for anything…especially when you see your HS friends who were in special-ed making $80Gs a year doing manual labor when you’re working your first gig in an office making $17Gs. Fast forward ten years and the struggle continues. Kids – just say NO to college.

2. Began dating my high school “sweetheart” in 2006 and got engaged to her the same year. Knocked her up that year as well. Went through the HELL that was pregnancy, she got disgustingly fat and ugly and objectified the hell out of me in the process (Being hounded to put Prep-H on a disgusting, fat bitch’s asshole is the ultimate insult). Then, my son came into the world. I was working 12-14 hour days in the finance industry, coming home, doing school work at night for three additional hours JUST to provide for my boy and that fat c~~~. But there was a problem…I WASN’T EMOTIONALLY AVAILABLE! They (women) will always find SOMETHING to complain about…you can come back home from walking on the f~~~ing moon, and the bitch will STILL find something to complain about. Only three months after my son was born, she locked me out of our home, took me to court before a female, affirmative action judge, and they gave me the bitch-attack of my life! Next thing I know, I’m not only making exorbitant child support payments, but also grossly inflated “unreimbursed medical” payments as well…I took home not a single penny. I had to move back in with my parents. I fought like hell in the courts…spending all of my life savings on legal fees and not gaining A SINGLE INCH of ground. Finally, in the summer of 2008, I said “f~~~ it” and decided to live for making myself happy. I couldn’t afford my own medical treatment and had no insurance because I was paying for my son’s and hers, so I found weed, beer and video games. And, I found PERFECT NSA sex from strippers and escorts. Like the wise man said, “you’re not paying for the sex, you’re paying for them to LEAVE!” I decided that I would report as little as possible to Child Support Services, play the poor card, and keep as much of my money as possible to strictly pleasure myself and pay for things I WANTED.

3. I took off for California when Child Support started giving me hell. I needed real work and nothing under the table, so I became a schoolteacher teaching math and science in a Mexican community. I found a bombshell girlfriend from Pebble Beach who swooned over me. We began a longterm relationship that literally drained the hell out of me. Now MORE money was going out the door, and later I found out the bitch was cheating on me AND keeping other men on deck throughout the entire 2.5 years we were together. She emotionally abused the hell out of me, and finally walked away from me after three abortions of children that probably weren’t even mine. This is when I said, “f~~~ it”, no more LTRs. Now, I am going to be the one who is cold, I am going to be the one who cheats, and I am going to be the one who breaks hearts left and right because if I don’t do it, she’ll be the only one that is doing it! This was around January of 2015…by the way, she left me over $64,000 in the hole. What else did I learn? DO NOT be a nice guy because they will walk all over you.

4. At the end of it all, I finally signed away my rights to my son when the bitch married some other poor shmuck and I supported them the first year they were married. The only reason she let me sign my rights away is because the Social Security Administration accused her of having two husbands! HA! Karma really is a bitter bitch. What I learned…have NO MORE children.

Summation – So, right now and at this moment, I have been celibate for three years and I have hardly any debts. After ten years of living hell, the walls are no longer closing in on me. After my son was adopted, I was finally able to pursue my passions and ambitions…which required me to quit smoking weed, but oh well…I have the rest of my life to do that. I teach at the college level now, and I’m going into the military, a lifelong goal which I couldn’t do for ten years prior due to child support arrears. I am free, and the wings that were burned off of me before actually feel like they are growing back. My spine is straighter and more solid than ever, my confidence is high, my health is WAY better, and I do not take crap from ANYONE anymore. Being emotionally scarred is just a byproduct of all of the above, but it is better than being under the high of the blue pill! My name is Moose, I am 34 years old, and I am MGTOW.

[RandallParticipant 32]

Hey man, I laughed my ass off at the PREP-H statement. That was some funny s~~~ man, no pun intended. hahahaha.
You were definitely put through the ringer by both those women but you’re on the right track now. I don’t need to tell you that though.
Welcome Brother!

[MooseParticipant 154]

Thanks, bro! I appreciate your encouragement. The only thing that kept me sane during all of it was humor…it just got more and more twisted over the years. Again, my thanks.

[Anonymous 3]

Great post! Thanks for intro.
After being emotionally abused for years it is not uncommon to move in the opposite direction & become a prick.
After awhile of learning how to take care of yourself & going MGTOW the wounds heal & we develop a bulls~~~ meter, that’s been my experience.
I no longer hate anybody & my dealings with women are what I call ” subtle disregard” I don’t pay attention or take seriously anything they say or do.
On the hard end its NFG.
I think you got there your own way & your own style. I would only say ” don’t look back”
Stay on the MGTOW path.
Stick with the winners
Stick with MGTOW
Welcome & thank you again

[MooseParticipant 154]

Thank you, Johnny! It was a long, rough transition. At heart, I hate rubbers and I like kids, but I also hate child support and misandry in the courts. It’s a true catch 22. For me, avoiding women is like avoiding alcohol to the alcoholic…where one is too many and a thousand isn’t enough. It only takes one fatal woman to send your life down the drain and I can’t let that happen. Thanks again!

[bladeParticipant]

Moose wrote:

The only thing that kept me sane during all of it was humor

Me to , welcome bro .

Land whales can fly

Welcome bro

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[MooseParticipant 154]

LMFAO! Blade, I just about had a hernia I was laughing so Goddamn hard.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello M,

Appreciate your Introduction.

Your Red Pills and Lessons learned are excellent. And many thanks for writing about your Bonafides.

You have found a gold mine. So, keep digging.

Moose wrote:

…It only takes one fatal woman to send your life down the drain……

One of the biggest challenges in my life has been trying to fully understand the depths of evil and the overwhelming power of “Woman’s Nature.”

At first, I thought NAWALT and that I had foolishly chosen one of those “Fatal Women.”

Now, I am certain that AWALT. In other words, they are all “Fatal Women.”

MGTOWs prove every day that there is more to life than women.

“MGTOW have demoted the female to a secondary consideration at best. She’s an AFTERTHOUGHT and not a primary motivator for anything.”

Here is a link to help newcomers. You should read the books suggested on page two:

/forums/topic/list-of-unacceptable-blue-pill-baggage/

Here are some Posts I thought you may enjoy and your feedback in them is appreciated:

/forums/topic/an-honest-love-letter/

/forums/topic/the-domestic-abuse-machine-as-an-apparatus-for-mens-enslavement/

Moose wrote:

…….learned that college education was utterly useless. Makes no sense to me that college is so freaking important, yet it doesn’t qualify you for anything…especially when you see your HS friends who were in special-ed making $80Gs a year doing manual labor when you’re working your first gig in an office making $17Gs. Fast forward ten years and the struggle continues. Kids – just say NO to college.

Commie Feminists have turned most good jobs, especially White Collar jobs, into hell on earth. Having to work with modern Womyn is too much of a burden and is Soul Destroying.
Consider the follow Post:

/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/

For decades, I turned down opportunities for advancement as a Tradesman and most of my free time was used up pursuing Advanced Degrees/ Training to become a Scientist. Alas, I foolishly believed the whoopla that is promoted about Academic and “Professional” careers.

Now, I fully understand that these “Institutions” are designed to create Debt Slaves. They are the heart of the Hive and they are extremely hostile to Heterosexual Men. For Lying Whores and their Gay partners in crime, the Hive is an endless series of parties, fashion shows, and schadenfreude. Furthermore, White Collar jobs are soul destroying venomous snake pits for Heterosexual Men.

Here is a link to a Post that attempts to discuss the Troubles caused by Women working in Blue Collar jobs:

/forums/topic/women-in-the-trades-blue-collar-jobs/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Welcome Moose

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[MooseParticipant 154]

Thank you, Manipulated Man! The information you provided was invaluable and I will certainly be checking out those links more in-depth. You hit the nail on the head about white collar jobs sucking the life out of us. I’ve only had white collar jobs except before attaining advanced degrees when I worked with men and ex-cons in the boatyards near Atlantic City, NJ. It was far healthier there because it kept me physically fit and toughened me up mentally. After college, the white-collar world I saw was dominated by women. Female supervisors tend to be AWFUL because they don’t know how to communicate with men, and when you don’t communicate with them to their liking, your life gets ruined. Your spine begins to dissolve, and they hen you to death. The white-collar world truly does feed into the gynocentric system, and it is, as you said, “a soul-destroying venomous snake pit for Heterosexual Men”. Thanks again!

[MooseParticipant 154]

Thanks, Vic! I feel privileged to finally be part of a movement consisting of many like-minded men. This is the only place where I can tell my story and share my thoughts on women without being shunned or scorned.

[Anonymous 14]

Moose wrote:

Thanks, Vic! I feel privileged to finally be part of a movement consisting of many like-minded men. This is the only place where I can tell my story and share my thoughts on women without being shunned or scorned.

WE ARE NOT A MOVEMENT……

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome.
good intro.
make yourself at home!

[Remove me!Participant]

Welcome, Moose.

Quick question

So you ran away from your parental responsibilities because the family court system screwed you over? Then you got lucky enough that your ex found another guy to take care of your kid?

Just want to make sure I’m getting everything straight.

Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Why would you give up the college teaching gig (which apparently pays a lot, if you can pay off a 64 K debt) to go be a grunt in the Army? Privates don’t make much. I don’t get it?!?!?

[MooseParticipant 154]

JD Anderson – The story is much longer than I had written…I only gave minute details. No, I did not “run away” from my parental responsibilities. I fought for my parental rights and was alienated for so long that my boy didn’t even know me anymore and was calling another man “daddy”. His mother would not let me see him, nor would she let me even talk to him on the phone. I took her to court, and the judge STILL wouldn’t allow me to see him because he was already calling her new boyfriend “daddy”.

Some people are $30,000 or more in arrears. I never went beyond $6,000. Did you know that the unemployment levels in Atlantic County, NJ in 2008 were 30%? There was absolutely no work there, and until the crash in September of 2008, I never missed a single payment. When I went to CA, I was $6,000 in arrears and HAD to find something that I couldn’t find in NJ…that’s when I went west and taught school, whilst having my salary garnished.

So yes, I was grateful when she was willing to let her new husband adopt him because I was not going to continue to make her happy at my expense, having all the benefits of being a father without having ANY contact with my own son. And guess what? My child support didn’t go to my son…it went to pay for her new car, her trips to wherever she wanted to go, new clothes for her, etc. These things made me realize that I also wanted to be happy. Is this so difficult to understand? But I never ran away from ANYTHING, and ANY man in my position would have come to the same conclusion. Does this answer your question?

[MooseParticipant 154]

Pistol Pete – Because I went Guard. I can resume teaching when I finish BCT and AIT. Plus, I am an adjunct, not a full professor. And I didn’t pay off my debts doing just that. I actually paid off most of them teaching at the top of the public school pay scale in CA. I left that job to come back east to say “goodbye” to my dad when he was dying, and to help my mom as much as possible as I promised my dad I would.

[MooseParticipant 154]

Anonymous wrote:

Moose wrote:

Thanks, Vic! I feel privileged to finally be part of a movement consisting of many like-minded men. This is the only place where I can tell my story and share my thoughts on women without being shunned or scorned.

WE ARE NOT A MOVEMENT……

AND I AM NEW TO THIS SITE. IF YOU CAN’T SAY ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE AFTER I GAVE MY STORY THEN MOVE ON DOWN THE LINE!

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

WOW that is great–in order to get to the top of the public school system in CA is a real feat. Those guys are unionized and promotion is usually based upon seniority. For you to jump the system was a real accomplishment. I’ve dealt with Unions and that couldn’t have been easy. With teacher unions and nursing unions the top people have the most seniority (Thats usually in the contract) You beat the racket!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Going to court to fight for joint custody of my son, and getting f~~~ed really hard by a misandrist, female judge. Child support up the ass, and absolutely NO rights. Went on for ten years before I finally had the opportunity to sign away my rights.

Going to court to fight for joint custody of my son.

Went on for ten years before I finally had the opportunity to sign away my rights.

these seem contradictory.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

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