Monk Mode is not the Only Road

[hmskl’dParticipant 6413]

Monk Mode is not the Only Road ..

I remember posts long ago where guys debated heavily .. things about continuing on with women .. having encounters and even things like going to Thailand for vacations was mentioned. That’s what I’m talking about .. just because a Guy Goes his own way .. does he need to give up his choices for things like that?

.. seeing what is going on out there without the blinders on .. and knowing the risks .. you still plan your own route .. and couldn’t that route be totally different for two different guys?

for example ..

just because I’m Monk Mode and Ghosting .. and I quietly turn my back to all conceivable intimate type relationships and socializing ..mainly because I don’t want something I’ve done, or someone I’ve met .. to have any possibility of returning to haunt me years later .. I find that scary and avoidable with my life style .. I just don’t trust AWALT .. never will.

.. that is just a choice I made. I don’t see why a guy can’t GHOW and still have social encounters .. IF .. “that is his own choice.” He knows what is out there .. the dangers and traps .. he can then interact in his own way. Isn’t that what MGTOW is all about? .. making your own decision and setting your OWN route.

I’m just saying this because I don’t ever want to sound like .. when I say Monk Mode .. that it is the “only way.”
Socializing or sexual friends or even dating that some other guy does .. that is his choice .. and no better or worse than mine.

You have the Red Pill .. you know what they might do and probably will do .. just be careful in your own way just as I try and do .. and then maybe your choices are even better than mine .. because I haven’t thought about everything considered in a rational decision to have some form of relationship.

I’m GMOW .. he’s GHOW .. both have knowledge of REAL dangers and plan and consider that .. as. we follow different ROADS.

.. don’t necessarily Do As I Do .. it works fine for me .. but that is likely not the case for everyone. It’s just my choice.
Go Your Own Way .. for me it’s Monk Mode .. for you it might be something totally unique and different.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

No, is just the cheapest one.

GYOW, is your way.

Rank by safest and cheap options:
1) monk: safe and cheap.
2) sex dolls: safe, kind of expensive
3) hookers: entail some risk expensive.
4) pump and dump: risky and expensive.
5) “girlfriend” (not living toguether or with plans of anything, more like f~~~ buddies): dangerous and insanely expensive.

Everything else is insanity.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[HermitParticipant]

No it isn’t. I never see myself going monk. I like women’s bodies and I like having women suck my dick. I’ll never get emotionally involved with a woman again, but I’ll keep having sex, maybe never with anyone new, but more than likely with my f~~~ buddies I’ve been with for years now. It’s working fine for me.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[WallyParticipant]

Agree with this OP, monk mode myself, but that’s only because to me the risks outweigh the benefits but that’s with everything in life. I love to go scuba diving, there is a risk to it but the benefits and enjoyment to me outnumber the risk. I could get hurt the next time and that lessens my ability to go my own way in a sense. Just because a mgtow wants to enjoy sex, doesn’t mean he is going his way any less than I am.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

hmskl’d wrote:

.. that is just a choice I made. I don’t see why a guy can’t GHOW and still have social encounters .. IF .. “that is his own choice.” He knows what is out there .. the dangers and traps .. he can then interact in his own way. Isn’t that what MGTOW is all about? .. making your own decision and setting your OWN route.

There is NOTHING WRONG with a man GHOW, and also still fulfilling his biological drives with woman.

If you want to get technical with labels like Monk or WHATEVER then that’s also up to YOU.

Personally, I wouldn’t worry about the “labels” whether they be MGTOW, Monk, or WHATEVER.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

So I agree in part. The attraction of a hot young female with a knock out body beats wanking off and a sex bot almost any day. The issue is one: those young hot females will inevitably cede to their activistic tendencies to want bad boys and rich guys. If you fit that mold- your can queue up in line for your turn. Two: the inevitable s~~~show sure to follow from most interaction with modern women makes that few moments of fun one freaking high price to pay.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

So I agree in part. The attraction of a hot young female with a knock out body beats wanking off and a sex bot almost any day. The issue is one: those young hot females will inevitably cede to their activistic tendencies to want bad boys and rich guys. If you fit that mold- your can queue up in line for your turn. Two: the inevitable s~~~show sure to follow from most interaction with modern women makes that few moments of fun one freaking high price to pay.

I agree, but the amount of problems, cost, deseases, make me wanna throw up.

My atraction last 40 seconds at best.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[JVBParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

pump and dump: risky and expensive.

No necessarily

Peace is > piece.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

JVB wrote:

Carnage wrote:

pump and dump: risky and expensive.

No necessarily

Expand please.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

I think this sums up being MGTOW as well as anything I’ve seen. From the “About” section of this very website:

M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.

sov·er·eign·ty
ˈsäv(ə)rən(t)ē/Noun. Meaning: Supreme power or authority. Autonomy, independence, self-government, self-rule, self-determination, freedom. Self-governing.

So I think a true MGTOW is someone who conscientiously understands the reasons behind his actions, and everything he does contributes to him living a sovereign and worthy life. And a key element in this is, obviously, is man’s association with women which is loaded with cultural expectations, societal responsibilities, double standards and risk. We talk about this all the time in these forums.

So — if a supposed MGTOW wants to get off with women, he ought to have some self-awareness. If he feeds them attention, buys them stuff, simps, and does s~~~ for them to win their sexual approval, there is nothing much MGTOW about that. Even if he’s Chad, he’s ultimately got to play by their rules, not his own. He’s feeding the “system of cultural preconceptions” that elevates women above men. He’s setting himself up to one day be hammered by women and their blue-pilled enforcers (STDs, false accusations, spermjacking, #METOO, divorce rape). As they say, many MGTOWs are just one blowjob away from going back to the plantation.

In general, a man being a slave to his urges (despite supposedly being red-pilled about women and their general s~~~) — when he could doing better and more worthy s~~~ for himself — doesn’t really jive with the MGTOW mentality. Like many have learned: the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. And definitely, any kind of LTR fails the cost-benefit analysis.

But yeah, it’s hard to get past that, we’re men.

I’ll just say that if a guy plays with fire long enough, someday he’s gonna get burned.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[Anonymous 18]

I have a visceral desire to disagree. Perhaps its insecurity on my part. I do not see the vast majority of men adapting to ‘fulfilling my biological desire to f~~~ a woman, and always staying free from relationships’ – most guys that start MGTOW with the mindset are long gone. They were here once, no more.

Now, ask yourself: what kind of women are you banging? The lowest of low – women who hit the wall, and ruined good men’s lives, and perhaps want to play some fantasy in their head but never going anywhere. Pre-wall is all they had. Now they are worth nothing. These kind of women will f~~~ and be at beck and call of a MGHOW. But its at his price of self-respect and dignity.

In the end what gives?

When a MGHOW is sticking his dick in a woman – it is on her terms. And he never grasps the full picture. If she is an easy lay for you and doesn’t expect much in return – then guess what? There are 20 other men. How do you feel sticking your dick in her? Can you almost taste the other dudes dick when you make out?

It is a coward’s way out from relationships, all the while staying slave to one’s sexual desires.

Its internet and everyone is f~~~ing Sly Stallone but get real. Pussy is a drug and there are no free lunches. At the very least – when you are giving her attention (low investment for a post-wall hag) then you are giving her time and energy in return for sex. Quite similar to what a simp does. Now the difference in the pathetic simpery is that he goes for the hot firm ass and tittied whore and accordingly pays a higher price. It is easier to point and laugh at him.

A low level simping is always there. Just accept it and stop playing the drums of delusion.

When you think you’re playing her – she is playing you. You can’t beat a woman in her power to use sex as a weapon.

Learn to yield brother.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

This is “men going their OWN way”.

Not “men going what other men going THEIR own way say should be your way”.

If going your own way even means trying marriage while being aware of the risks, applying red pill techniques and you really think you have found a unicorn, it is still technically your own way, despite involving the state and being extremely unadvisable.

Or am I wrong here? I am often wrong.

Either way, MGTOW monk for life for me.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

If going your own way even means trying marriage while being aware of the risks, applying red pill techniques and you really think you have found a unicorn, it is still technically your own way, despite involving the state and being extremely unadvisable.

Being MGTOW is more nuanced than “doing whatever I want”. It’s preserving and protecting your sovereignty and refusing to be treated like a disposable utility in a society that views you as one.

How is getting married preserving and protecting your sovereignty?

It’s the complete opposite.

It’s making a public declaration to take on obligations to your wife — and the law will see that you do.

It’s setting yourself up to be divorce raped by your wife and the system that backs her– not you.

And a red pilled guy ought to know better (no unicorns, AWALT, hypergamy).

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[Daryll55Participant 2955]

Carnage wrote:

No, is just the cheapest one.
GYOW, is your way.
Rank by safest and cheap options:1) monk: safe and cheap.2) sex dolls: safe, kind of expensive3) hookers: entail some risk expensive.4) pump and dump: risky and expensive.5) “girlfriend” (not living toguether or with plans of anything, more like f~~~ buddies): dangerous and insanely expensive.
Everything else is insanity.

What Carnage said: ^^^^^^^^^^^

I am not a total MONK, but damned close to it. I do #1 with a dose of #3 just to keep me MALE,(and from going crazzy!)

It takes a few to get the right one, but once you find THAT ONE, it’s worth it. Pity you have to go through the vain single mommies that think they are soooo hot they can charge $$. Then there is the THOT chubettes. Not to mention the “down and out” girls looking to hookup with a wallet. Oh wait,……. that’s justa bout every woman,…….

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[HermitParticipant]

Handsome Vic wrote:

I’ll just say that if a guy plays with fire long enough, someday he’s gonna get burned.

If you’re careful when “playing” with the fire, you can use it to your advantage and greatly reduce the severity of any burn, or in fact get only close enough to keep warm and not get burned at all. Since my divorce, I have a few flames I’ve been using to keep warm for years. If it gets too hot, I step back. I just don’t let the fire get out of control.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

I usually get an escort twice a month and there is always some risk when dealing with any woman, a sex doll is probably the safest option beside monk mode.

Marriage however is not only the opposite of MGTOW but your literally becoming a willing plantation slave due to marriage offering absolutely nothing to a man even in countries with strong patriarchy since your still “the horse pulling a cart”.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

I am warning you that it is dangerous to drive a high-powered F1 car in Nürburgring, while snowing, without front and rear wings and without snow tyres, but sure, it is your car, you do what you want with it. If you crash and burn, it was your choice, right?

Same can be said about women. We have warned you that dealing with women is dangerous, that it is like walking around a minefield, where even the slightest misstep may blow you up and harm you for good, but, we can only offer advice. In the end, it is your life, and you can do anything you want with it.

Just understand why your flesh is burning, when the fires of the femstappo inquisition are burning you, it was because you did it to yourself.

Anyway, it is YOUR OWN WAY. Do with it as you please.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 38]

Max Power wrote:

This is “men going their OWN way”.
Not “men going what other men going THEIR own way say should be your way”.

Yep. We used to have a few on this website.

‘LISTEN TO ME!!’
‘YOU’RE BLUE PILLED BECAUSE YOU ASSOCIATE WITH WOMEN’
‘YOU’RE A FOOL’

Lol. No better than feminists, SJWs and gynocrats imo.

[MonkParticipant 17027]

I think that libertarianism and MGTOW are often confused. There is a certain crossover, but they are not quite the same thing.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

seems like we get this same topic re-occurring but that is a good thing.

MGTOW is a journey. Im pretty staunch on abstinence myself. But if get some poon, good for you. enjoy

I love tuna but I hate fishing. Result: I dont get any cause I never fish….

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