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I was arguing with this broad that when a man finds a woman physically attractive, at least that’s part of her. Even if it’s only physical, it’s still HER that he’s attracted to.
She goes on to tell me “Well, when a woman finds a man attractive because he has money or a great career, that’s part of who he is too!”.
She really did not want to hear how a job has NOTHING to do with who a man is. Not a damn thing. But this is how they justify their actions, folks.
In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.
But if a man has a job he likes, has no debt, and is a decent person, and you turn him down because you think “I can do better” or “I need someone who has more money”…yeah, sorry, that makes you a WHORE and this is how 95% of women operate.
The way women look at a guy’s career…if we equated that to how men look at a woman based on her looks, it’d be equal to us expecting to find a young Cindy Crawford every time we went out.
But men don’t expect Cindy Crawford. Sure, we want and need to find someone who we are ATTRACTED to but we don’t expect the world. If we find a woman attractive enough, we’ll give her a shot.
Women though? FORGET IT! They expect to find a guy who makes a 6 figure salary, has the perfect look, etc. THEY WANT IT ALL even if they aren’t that great themselves!
In other words, what women want in a guy is equal to us wanting to find Cindy Crawford every time we went out! They are COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL.
What’s even MORE hysterical is they want it all, and will give you NOTHING in return except their holes. They’ll be pain in the asses to you, complain, make trouble for you, and if you marry them, they’ll screw up your life later on BIG TIME!
I cannot believe women though would have the nerve to say “money is part of who a man is”. What the f~~~ is wrong with these bimbos? Do they really believe that? Or do they know it’s bulls~~~, but they want to justify their s~~~ty behavior?
“You are not your job, you’re not how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You’re not the contents of your wallet. You are not your f~~~ing khakis. You are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world.”
– Tyler Durden, Fight ClubTwo minor quibbles with your entirely excellent post.
In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.
There are 95 million Americans out of the labor force. Real unemployment in the States, Obama lies to the contrary, are about 25+% for adults and 40-45% for young adults (the same as most of Europe, which makes sense because of similar wages). So I disagree with you there.
Another minor point. I am my career . . . which derailed some time ago. I loved what I did, lived and breathed it, and it defined completely who I was as a person. Which doesn’t make me special in any way. It just means that my hobby and love (accounting, operations, finance) happened to be something that paid well. Most people aren’t that lucky. But some bitch like you’re talking about would have *no f~~~ing clue* about anything like that. None. She’d think I chose my profession to make money, which is bulls~~~. I actually would be making more, and more steadily, as an engineer. I started taking accounting classes, at night, and f~~~ing fell in love. I found my goddamn metier. But no bitch on Earth would even vaguely f~~~ing get that. To her, everyone should f~~~ing do whatever the f~~~ serves her ass best, and that’s what a career is.
F~~~ her.
Awesome post, and forgive the minor quibbles. I’m tired. Seriously – awesome f~~~ing post. You completely get it. Women have no goddamn clue, at all, about work, career, love, anything even vaguely like that. Many men just have a f~~~ing job to pay bills and that is totally fine. But she doesn’t understand anything about any of it.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
Just remember a “modern” woman can never live up to the standard she sets for a man.
This is a pointless distinction to make. Men value youth and fertility in women, Women value looks, money, status in men. Her youth and fertility being a part of her is irrelevant because what men and women want stem from biology; it is fundamentally shallow.
Women want more and more because of societal advancement. Women can now also earn their own money, so they now want a man with even more money. You will notice that a female doctor will almost always be married to a man that is a male doctor or higher in terms of earning; it is HYPERGAMY.
I do not see women’s behaviour as s~~~ty or good; i see their behaviour as bad for MEN. So i go MGTOW.
Embrace the beauty of your life mgtow life.
Retaking your freedom and YOUR life can now be anything you want it to be. YOU are commander of your own ship.A lot of men in the anger phase refuse to accept men and women for what they are. They think that women wanting money is ‘wrong’ and that a ‘good’ women wouldnt do that. No it is not good or bad, it is what women are. If you cannot accept the underlying behavioural tendencies of men and women then you will never get out of the anger phase.
Anonymous3In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.
That guy you’re busy judging as a jobless slacker, he’s f~~~ing the s~~~ out of that girl that you’re busy arguing with and trying to convince you’re better than him.
You claim money doesn’t matter, then immediately insist it matters when you think it helps you. That’s the problem with the vast majority of unattractive men with mediocre at best jobs. You’re not sexually attractive so the physical attraction isn’t there, you’re not extremely successful so the financial attraction isn’t there, and you have a s~~~ty personality so there is no attraction on that level either.
At some point you can’t just sit there whining about women and trying to pretend you don’t want them when you clearly wrote a novel trying to justify why you think women should be attracted to you. MGTOW don’t argue with women and don’t make excuses for why women aren’t attracted to us—-to be perfectly frank, most of us are trying to figure out ways to keep them from noticing us and bothering us, because we don’t really want them.
Anonymous22But if a man has a job he likes, has no debt, and is a decent person, and you turn him down because you think “I can do better” or “I need someone who has more money”…yeah, sorry, that makes you a WHORE and this is how 95% of women operate.
The women that belong to that category will be the most bitter in their 40’s and 50’s when they hit the wall. Sometimes even earlier, like when they’re 30 something. They start to lose their looks and get less attention from men.
They should have taken what they could get when they were younger and beautiful. But because they were greedy, they got nothing, and now have to be bitter every day until the end.
I just feel bad for the cats who have to live with them. The bitter hags might mistreat them because men avoid them and they have to take their anger out on something.
I honestly think today’s woman, seriously choose money, then looks, then personality and so on, With all the options via technology… tinder, FB, insta, Snapchat, plus being programmed, they know they can have a side piece chad to pump in a milisecond. I also believe they have become better at keeping Chad a secret, in past they fall in emotional love, I think in today’s times they have adapted very well, I see this first hand. Chads will always be Chads, mostly wreckless Meathole Pumping machines…the females have adapted to keep there chads and change there tactics to be stealthy and cover all bases..they need Beta providers money, but they need Chads Meathammer, they have adapted to change.
Savage
Please take this advice OP. Your first mistake was arguing with a woman. Never argue with women.
I honestly think today’s woman, seriously choose money, then looks, then personality and so on, With all the options via technology… tinder, FB, insta, Snapchat, plus being programmed, they know they can have a side piece chad to pump in a milisecond. I also believe they have become better at keeping Chad a secret, in past they fall in emotional love, I think in today’s times they have adapted very well, I see this first hand. Chads will always be Chads, mostly wreckless Meathole Pumping machines…the females have adapted to keep there chads and change there tactics to be stealthy and cover all bases..they need Beta providers money, but they need Chads Meathammer, they have adapted to change.
You are correct that women have adapted their strategies. Men must also adapt their strategies by going MGTOW. This is a gender war, women have taken men for granted and men are sending them a message. No one wants you anymore.
Anonymous5Nothing is more evil than taking down a man – whom has everything to die in peace. Than unknowingly in sad way examplar of a implusive mind -rip that very sucess -instanly, take away his family, his self respect and his honor – that spark of life.. this happens daily. Mgtow is the force. A force of justice. The scale has been tilted for to long.
In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.
That guy you’re busy judging as a jobless slacker, he’s f~~~ing the s~~~ out of that girl that you’re busy arguing with and trying to convince you’re better than him.
You claim money doesn’t matter, then immediately insist it matters when you think it helps you. That’s the problem with the vast majority of unattractive men with mediocre at best jobs. You’re not sexually attractive so the physical attraction isn’t there, you’re not extremely successful so the financial attraction isn’t there, and you have a s~~~ty personality so there is no attraction on that level either.
At some point you can’t just sit there whining about women and trying to pretend you don’t want them when you clearly wrote a novel trying to justify why you think women should be attracted to you. MGTOW don’t argue with women and don’t make excuses for why women aren’t attracted to us—-to be perfectly frank, most of us are trying to figure out ways to keep them from noticing us and bothering us, because we don’t really want them.
I don’t know what you’re talking about regarding money. I said money should not matter, but if you’re a moocher and don’t want to earn a living THEN it’s ok to judge someone for that. How is that in any way hypocritical? Being a moocher is not the same as someone who puts in an honest days work.
As for not being physically attractive and having a “s~~~ty” personality…wrong and wrong. I happen to be very attractive physically, and my personality is very good. You think women give a s~~~ about that bro? Seriously, examine the pie chart again. It’s 5% personality, 5% looks, and 90% how much money and status you have. That’s not “whining” that’s truth.
And what’s your deinition of “extremely successful”? I have zero debt, car paid off, and a job that I love. I just don’t make 6 figures. Is that how you define what “successful” is? To each their own. I’m a huge success in my own eyes but that doesn’t mean s~~~ to women.
The “jobless slacker” might be that scumbag who bangs a lot of whores, but my post was more regarding relationships/long term/marriages. Of course I’m aware that scumbags lower than dirt bang women. That’s the problem with me and so many other guys. We are the “average joe’s” that don’t have any angle with women.
We’re not scumbags (which women love, but only to bang) and we’re not super-rich (the guys women want to marry while they f~~~ scumbags on the side). We’re BORING. And by boring, I don’t mean personality-wise. We’re boring TO HER because she craves DRAMA AND BIG BUCKS which something average joe’s lack in both categories. That doesn’t mean our personalities are “s~~~ty”. It just means we’re not super-rich, and we’re not scumbags.
I’m very attractive but I’m not into one night stands. I guess that’s why my anger towards women is higher than a typical physically attractive guy. I think hooking up is disgusting and trust me when I say I’ve had plenty of chances to do it with nice looking women.
I definitely am doing better in the anger department after coming here, but yes, I admit I have more work to do because as long as I feel anger towards women, they still have some power over me. Your last sentence was very good (regarding not wanting to be bothered by women). That’s where I hope to be at some point. Coming here helps. Thanks.
But if a man has a job he likes, has no debt, and is a decent person, and you turn him down because you think “I can do better” or “I need someone who has more money”…yeah, sorry, that makes you a WHORE and this is how 95% of women operate.
The women that belong to that category will be the most bitter in their 40’s and 50’s when they hit the wall. Sometimes even earlier, like when they’re 30 something. They start to lose their looks and get less attention from men.
They should have taken what they could get when they were younger and beautiful. But because they were greedy, they got nothing, and now have to be bitter every day until the end.
I just feel bad for the cats who have to live with them. The bitter hags might mistreat them because men avoid them and they have to take their anger out on something.
I agree with what you said, but I never looked at a woman going for me as “settling for less”. If a woman and I got along great, but she passed on me to try and get some rich guy she had less of a connection with, I don’t think she’s “doing better” even if she gets that guy.
I think it’s better to go for a guy based on what type of connection you have with him, rather than what’s in his bank account.
But of course, to a woman, a man’s worth is measured ONLY by how much money he makes, and that’s why women end up so sad and miserable later in their life. They bring it all on themselves, you can’t feel an ounce of sorrow for them.
The way I see it is, I don’t need to make more money. They need to change how they go about finding a partner, because how they try to find a partner in todays world (money based) will almost ALWAYS lead to them being sad and miserable. But they won’t change. They’ll never change, not in my lifetime. So f~~~ ’em.
@trader yes no doubt a gender war, its like a f~~~ing mega arms race, they def have the bigger cache of weapons but they will f~~~ it up..cause woman. We men are definately way more capable of seeing the end game better than them.
Savage
Mgtow is the force. A force of justice. The scale has been tilted for to long.
Yes, over half a century of bulls~~~.
Knowing that you now see women just as they ARE…
With that fact… you can now free your life and stay clear.Once you unc~~~ after a few months life is better.
I’m still having great luck just playing guitar non stop.. reading music and enjoying my life again.Why guitars are better than women.. and a nice distraction to shut your lizard brain up…
You don’t have to get guitars drunk before playing with them.
Nobody will get mad at you when you trade in your old, used guitar for a new, younger model.
Your guitar only makes sounds when YOU want it to.
Guitars have volume knobs. Telling your girlfriend to be quiet will have different results.
Nobody cares if you play with 2 guitars at the same time.
Playing with other people’s guitars is fun. Playing with someone else’s girl has consequences.
Women come and go. Your guitar will always be there for you.
Try turning on a woman as fast as you can turn on your amp.
Guitars never complain or say they have a headache when you want to play with it.
Guitars dont care if you forget their birthday.Yeah and you can also stuff a guitar in your car trunk and not worry about the police coming after you. Great post! 🙂
She goes on to tell me “Well, when a woman finds a man attractive because he has money or a great career, that’s part of who he is too!”.
Only to a whore.
I may be identifying myself here, but what the hell. My janitor makes huge kinetic sculptures out of scrap iron and logs and stuff. Cleaning bathrooms is just his day job. He’s pretty good. I have two of his larger pieces in my yard. To myself and other men he’s a sculptor.
But women will never see him as anything other than a janitor.
And they have the nerve to call Men shallow?
Honestly though, im not worried cause if Mgtow, and groups and individuals that adapt RedPill Grow to huge numbers…there future will pretty much be a whole bunch of Chris Chans. Game over, Man wins
Savage
The pool will be empty and dry ladies. We will be at the Isle of Mgtow.
Savage
Women though? FORGET IT! They expect to find a guy who makes a 6 figure salary, has the perfect look, etc. THEY WANT IT ALL even if they aren’t that great themselves!
WOTGM-
I think you nailed it.
No matter how much money you make, it’s not enough. No matter how attractive you are, it’s not enough.
Women have zero loyalty. Men are a temporary conveyance until something better comes along.
Women want millionaires who are hung like horses who will accept them at 300 lbs. And even then women believe they deserve better. Women are completely delusional.I was arguing with this broad that when a man finds a woman physically attractive, at least that’s part of her. Even if it’s only physical, it’s still HER that he’s attracted to.
She goes on to tell me “Well, when a woman finds a man attractive because he has money or a great career, that’s part of who he is too!”.
She really did not want to hear how a job has NOTHING to do with who a man is. Not a damn thing. But this is how they justify their actions, folks.
Then if a man have money because he inherited (google: Lapo Elkann) or he has a s~~~ty job because he lost the previous good job because he had to be made redudant by a re-organization / new technology, then it’s his flaw…
In my opinion the ONLY time it’s ok to judge a guy in that area is if he is a jobless slacker, living at home with mom (and not supporting her). Yeah, then it’s OK to say “This guy is a loser”.
When a woman wonder about having sex with you on the basis of your money/job, then you’re already a loser.
I f~~~ed most women/girls when I was jobless/studying.
I f~~~ed one of them less than an hour after meeting her, on the dance floor of the Amnesia disco in Ibiza, surrounded by foam and other people dancing. I recently and casually discovered that she’s now a quite successfull politician in UK. I was still an university student at that time, jobless, and in Ibiza I was moving around with a friend on a car we rented, a Panda Café:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Panda#First_generation_.281980.E2.80.932003.29
This car, in a special version with a canvas sunroof that did made the car almost like a convertible.
Still pretty s~~~ty and cheap, isn’t it?
And still, the girl did not even know what car I had, she did know that I was studying at university, jobless, and I f~~~ed her during the foam party in the middle of a crowded dance floor.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I think its great , they are seen for what they are,,, Thats the level of entitlement they have , I don’t have any friends who would consider marriage , the age group is 35 to 70 .. I would guess 12 guys, some never married some have and would never again.
Its brilliant they are so thick to say that..
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