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I’ve been finding the topic of minimalism more and more interesting.
My best friend of 16 years that lives next door to me was talking about how he was thinking about it, and the more I think about it myself, the more it sounds more and more appealing.
I’m looking around my apartment as I write this, and I think to myself, “I could do without a lot of this…”
I have a couch and loveseat that are hardly ever used, a huge hand-made dresser that was given to me that I have no space for anymore, a computer desk that only holds my scorpion tank and some of my decorative things I personally like, a dining room table that seems to be only used to put things on (it’s never even been eaten on since I was given it over a year ago) and a bed that I feel I could do without as well and could invest in a couch bed or futon (I’ve found those to be quite comfortable)!.
As I thought about selling my bed and getting a couch bed (which practically cuts the use of a bed AND couch when it fills both), my best friend actually happened to sell his bed today. He just got $450 for his queen sized bed, and he’s actually going to sleep on a mattress topper, as he’s found the floor to be equally, if not more, comfortable as his bed (he prefers a firm sleeping platform like I do). He has a LOT more space in his bedroom now, and if he decided to move, there went his heaviest item!
Now, I won’t be able to sell my vastly inferior bed for $450, but I could definitely sell it for some extra money that I would like to keep on the side.
I’ve also considered selling my car (which is starting to become a financial burden more and more every week, quite literally) and investing in a bike. I honestly don’t go to very many far places (the little city I live in has just about everything I need), and according to Google Maps, my job is a 25 minute bike ride away. There would go the cost of gas AND car insurance, which easily cost me about $150 a month combined. I have a wonderful and fair-priced organic store that I can walk to within 5 minutes. I have a Dollar General for all my other necessities (though it’s sometimes a few cents more expensive than, say, Wal-Mart…it would realistically be as much to drive and use the gas to get that elsewhere).
The only things I think that I really LIKE and “need” for entertainment purposes are my laptop, my TV/PS3/Sega Genesis, my music collection, my movies, and my book collection. Everything else is just…here. Decorative stuff can stay, as it hands on the wall and is no burden to me whatsoever. The cat and scorpion can stay, too. They barely cost me a thing per month (especially the scorpion…it’s literally less than $5 a month to take care of it!!).
Does anybody else practice this kind of lifestyle? I feel like it would help me out a LOT. Maybe it’s just my mind maturing a bit, as this kind of idea has been steadily getting more and more intriguing the more I think about it. I just got a raise at work, and now get $20 extra for longevity pay (every 2 years is a $20 state government worker extra pay that sticks with me even after I quit…so after 24 years, it would be an extra $240). My rent can now be a LITTLE more comfortably paid and my debts are almost completely gone…but I feel like I could do MORE, ya know?
This is just the response I was hoping for.
I’m taking pictures of everything I’m selling now. It’s midnight, I should be sleeping for work at 7:30 in the morning (I show up early in the office sometimes…sigh), but the idea of getting this stuff out and maybe making a few bucks just motivates me like no other.
My book collection is ever expanding, and after this whole thing is done, my books may very well be the heaviest thing I have to carry out of here when I move out.
I’m in the process of minimizing my computer files. I used to keep everything, but as time went on it got unmanageable and I realized that with the way things are headed, I will be the only one who cares, or even remembers much of it down the road. So alot of it is going to the virtual dumpster. Need to return to the days of a small footprint.
Virtually all my entertainment is electronic and in the form of movies, tv shows, ebooks, music, pictures, personal photography collection, games. Though I do have an N64 with a few games and some books.
I’m looking around my apartment as I write this, and I think to myself, “I could do without a lot of this…”
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Does anybody else practice this kind of lifestyle?Yes, I am one of them. I found out, through trial and error, the less useless crap I had, the happier I became. If I don’t use something for a few years, I try to sell it or donate it to a charity.
I have a friend who is a pack rat. You can not walk in a straight line across his living room. It’s stifling.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Ever notice that women will beat up on a man for his own space, the garage, the attic, the shed, trailer or basement.
Yet they never ask if he is happy?
Yes, I sure have. I have seen women do this to their significant others since I was a preteen. He pays for the house and everything in it. She banishes him to the woodshed, and then she gripes at him because he is “never around when I want him.”
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I intend on becoming more minimalistic, and since discovering it I’ve found it exciting to find ways to save money and be content with less stuff. Also if you guys like reading books don’t forget to check your local library, as it’s both free and saves you space from not needing book storage.
For those of you interested in minimalism you may want to consider reading the book ‘Bachelor pad economics’ by Aaron Clarey, has some interesting thoughts and tips to share on minimalism, budgeting, philosophy and much more.
And if you’re a movie buff ‘Fight club’ challenges consumerism and explores what it is to be happy.
Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman
less decoration and stuff that you dont really use equals less dust collectors…so you will have less work.
I think this makes so much sense, I personally like to throw things away every few months if I don’t use them so i end up with a small amount of things that all have purpose.
Women have a large amount of things with no purpose. this makes no sense. they claim it is “decorative”, and I say WTF is the point, its just clutter, throw it out, lets be logical about this.
Another case in point about women being materialistic, its LITERALLY hanging on the walls. all you have to do is look.
MERCHDoes anyone watch the TV series Hell on Wheels? Now that is a minimalist lifestyle! And, almost all of the characters on that show thought the canvas tent they had for a home was a better deal than life in the big city back east. They refused to leave, even in the face of Indian attacks.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
My “decorative” things include stuff like my geeky posters and other little things like that which I find kind of cool. My entire apartment is a “man cave,” and I’m completely fine with it. I’d be even more happy if it was less cluttered, though. If I make anything off of these items, I’ll be putting them towards my remaining debts and a futon. That’s about it. Hopefully this all works.
It’s a little hard parting from the stuff in some ways, because a lot of it was part of the family. Several of the things were around when my parents were still together and I was a teenager. I suppose it’s time to let the physical parts of the memories go.
Way to go, bro. Materialism is the pursuit of a bottomless pit. I sleep on the floor! Cured my back problems. I think most men realize that minimalism is desirable. Reminds me of a friend I have not seen in years. He got married and it seemed nothing was enough for his wife. His 2600 sq foot home was too small – so she had him build a new one twice the size. Guy works over 60 hours a week as a doctor. She stays home with household help. How many women would survive in the woods with a backpack and a tent. Yaeh, that’s the number I though of too – and I could count it on one hand.
My best friend got a king sized mattress topper last night. $150. He still has $350 left over from his bed. His girlfriend wants him to buy a bed frame to go with it (I’m guessing SHE doesn’t like the thought of “sleeping on the floor”). I slept on the floor at my mother’s for MONTHS. Some thought it was cruel. I honestly got used to it and was totally fine with it. Heck, in the midst of moving into my apartment last year, I had to sleep on the floor until I got my bed moved over. She’d be FINE, hahaha!
Just as I posted my reply, I have had an offer on my dresser, and a possible offer on my bedframe/box spring! That’s $100 extra I’ll be making today!! Holy cow!
I usually get desktop computers. The last one crapped out on me, so I decided that laptop computers would be better, and besides if they fry out it’s lots easier to get rid of. So, there are steps to take to minimize the amount of stuff so you’re not cluttered with things you don’t really need or want. My philosophy about electronics are that they’ll return to their natural state; a useless piece of brick without value. It’s all part of planned obsolence of products to create this stream to consumers. They’re not designed to last.
Once you get this, you plan accordingly.to minimize costs.
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
I just read up on that. Holy cow, it’s interesting to think about, and I’m surprised I never thought of it before!
Sold my dresser yesterday, and have an offer on my bed that can be paid in 2 weeks. I’m holding the mattress for ’em. I feel nice enough to do so. I mean, I’ll be getting $50 off of it anyway (maybe more, as this person needs quite a few things). The next few weeks should be pretty life-changing for me.
I went pretty minimalistic on my demand for money. At the same time I went minimalistic on payed work. So by now I have most of the year off. So this is an own concept. Up to now I have not seen too much talk about it. The ones who get closest to it, would be “the slow movement”. Google for them to get inspired. I live in a single room sharing one bathroom with 4 other guys. As a consequence I had to go low on a lot of stuff that other people at my age jam their big apartments with.
Besides low expenses, the second main part of my monetary minimalism is autarky or self sufficiency. This leads to gathering up additional material stuff though: I now own a garden with a little wooden house on it, and over the years I acquired a bunch of tools to work on wood and steel and so on, and I’m still aquiring more. At the end, I’m looking forward to giving up this little room to have nothing besides that small house with the big garden. Within that zone I’m planning to do a lot of optimization regarding use of existing space over the years. I already frequently go through the stuff that I own, and get rid of things that are not useful anymore. Broken stuff I either repair right away, or I chuck it.
So I would not call this minimalization, but rather optimization for maximum spare time and maximum use from what I’ve got.
Regarding planned obsolescense: I’m writing this on a busyness line notebook. Every part of it is exchangeable. Plus it was cheap when I bought it as an ex-leasing device. Any member of my family gets one for free plus free support from me, if they want one. The tools that I buy are mostly used professional ones, so they will mostly last a lifetime. Also I repair a lot of things, even they were built to be thrown away plus a calculated hourly wage for repair time is bad. I just do it, and I learn from it.
Btw: One important moment that made me understand that women suck, was when my ex demanded me to help her move form her last appartment. First women gather up all this stuff, then they expect men to carry it, when they move. After I broke up, I bet her father had to carry all her s~~~ back (read about this poor guy in my introduction post).
A question on the “minimalized” payed work…how is that even done? The apartment I’m considering downsizing to will save me roughly $150 a month, but even then it’s close to $600. The idea of it seems intriguing and I’m wanting to learn a lot more on it.
I’ve almost paid off all my expenses and debts, and I almost never want to deal with debts again. I also want to cut down on driving costs as much as I can, too. If anything, I’m very happy with the area I live in, and would be content hanging here for quite a while without going to the “outside world.”
I’ve helped women move out before as well…but not without pay now. I’ve learned I need to teach women not to think they can get some labor in for free. If I know them well enough, maybe I’ll give ’em a good deal, but NOT free. I figure if I minimize to what I’m planning on keeping, I wouldn’t even need anyone to help me move. I could do it all myself in literally a day.
“minimalized” payed work…how is that even done?
I guess when you talk about your rent, you understood that you need to concentrate on are the running expenses. If you pay $150 once, it’s no problem. But paying $150 a month makes $1800 in a year $18000 in ten years. So that’s good to start with. I also started off with that. Next would be driving a car that is ~15 years old. At that age, they reach their low in prize and you can get cheap spare parts in the junk yard. If you can’t repair it yourself, the best thing to do is find somenbody that will cooperate with you, so you can deliver used the spare parts when he works on it.
House and car are the 2 main factors. Just do that, and save your money, so you can buy your own little place in some years from now. I agree with you on debt. It’s a great decision never to get in debt again. Not even for real estate.
Like I wrote, I’m at a point, where I am reconstructing my own little house to bring rent to zero and I do all the maintenance work on my car as well. Right now I am getting into welding too, which will have to be done on my delivery van. When I move to my garden some day, it will all be done with that, all by myself.
Once you really learn how to do all kinds of technical work, you save a lot of money. You are basically your own moonlightworker. Just 100% legal. To me doing all of that is also a great possibility to improve my skills, plus it saves me additional money, because I don’t need expensive hobbies to stay entertained.I probably qualify as a minimalist, but I like to think of it as part of “life optimization”. The way most people collect things is like a book written completely in bold print with the caps lock on. Nothing they own has emphasis, and it’s lost in a jungle of crap. Most everything I own serves a purpose or I feel sincere attachment to. Nothing in my small apartment is “just there”. Not to say I dumped everything frivolous. For example I have two anime figurines I love and think of them as small pieces of art, but I’ve never purchased more.
One thing I think MGTOW doesn’t get enough into is the “next step”, and a big part of that is understanding what you need out of life once you’ve defined it for yourself. There is so much more to life than collecting this s~~~ that our consumerist society pushes (driven by women). Free of those bonds, life is so much easier. These days I almost laugh at myself years ago looking at busting my ass until “retirement age” when maybe I can fall over dead in peace. My needs are simple, so supporting them is likewise simple.
You’re almost out of debt and that’s awesome. After that just make sure your emergency fund is squared away, and start thinking about the next step. It takes a while to ramp up speed, but you’re headed in the right direction for a good life. That’s something I can’t say for most people.
If you can get away from a car, give it a shot! People seriously do not realize how much a drain cars really are. If you decide you need one later, just get another car (s~~~ you probably save enough to buy another one by not driving one 2 years). If you need to haul something, get a rental. Also, if looking to compact and organize, try putting games/dvds in binders. You can’t believe how much space this saves. Lastly look in your cupboards for s~~~ you don’t eat – especially condiments in the refrigerator.
Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham
Also, if looking to compact and organize, try putting games/dvds in binders. You can’t believe how much space this saves. Lastly look in your cupboards for s~~~ you don’t eat – especially condiments in the refrigerator.
My Blu-Rays and games are on an old media shelf my grandfather owned. Though I’ve parted from many things, I kinda like the old style the shelf gives, and it’s really light, too! I always liked having a “library” of books and other media. That’s some space I’m willing to give. 😛
As for the foods, I’ve actually been doing that! Cutting back on old condiments and foods I hadn’t touched. I either gave them to friends of mine or cooked it and ate it (if it was still good, of course)!
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