Milo got asked about MGTOW and red pill today

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Milo: ‘Madam, it was great of you to come, but f~~~ your feelings’.

Hahahahahahaha.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

narwhal wrote:

You’re right, but I think it’s deeper then that. The claim or racism (or misogyny) isn’t about winning the argument, it’s about invalidating any statement the opposition may make about anything. It has nothing to do with the issue in contention and everything to do with destroying the character of the opposition to your viewpoint. Claiming racism is not only lazy, but it never does anything to address any real problems since ignores any other issue except the possibility of racism.

But that’s entirely my point. They cry “racism” to put their opponent on the defensive and try to shut down the discussion because they know they are LOSING.

TaxGuy wrote:

I would say the claim of racism is EXACTLY about winning the argument by invalidating any statement the opposition may make.

Nope. It’s entirely about preventing discussion where they know they are in the wrong. It’s not done to win arguments. They do it to try to silence them.

Don’t let them. The moment I hear someone cry “racism” (or sexism or misogyny or whatever), I immediately tell them: “You just lost the argument. There you go making wild accusations because you KNOW you don’t have logic, reason, or facts on your side.” Usually they then resort to trying to play the victim card, and I call them out on that too.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

“It’s entirely about preventing discussion where they know they are in the wrong. It’s not done to win arguments. They do it to try to silence them.”

What you said.
Like hiding the bodies after committing genocide. When you know your wrong you have to silence the truth.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

sidecar wrote:

Russky wrote:

I am yet to meet anyone who’s genuinely racist,

I meet them all the time. Have not met one yet who wasn’t liberal.

If you count that as racism, so yes, there’s plenty of that among low-educated Trump supporters.

But are those Trump supporters really anti-arab? Or are they just against unrestricted immigration and inevitable welfare support of undocumentable unvettable people from unstable third world extremists states that hate us and have a history of terrorism both domestically and abroad?

Because that’s not racism. It’s common f~~~ing sense.

I think people who think that alt-right are racist are saying so because they’re convinced that racism is the basis of his immigration policy and nationalistic stance.

I know that people who accuse the alt-right of racism only do so because they don’t have any actual, logical, supportable responses to his immigration policy etc.

They can’t actually come up with a reason why building a wall is bad, so they call it “racist”. Meanwhile Obama is giving Mexico millions to build a wall on their southern border. When we are already 20 trillion in debt.

Why is Trump’s wall bad but Obama’s wall good?

“Racism” is the rallying cry of losers who have already lost the argument but refuse to admit it. Whenever you see an accusation of racism you can rest assured there’s no actual racism present, because actual racism can be easily argued against with facts and logic. Wild, baseless accusations are unnecessary when dealing with actual racism.

I’d say MGTOW more leans toward anarchist/libertarian than to alt-right anyways

To quote Heinlein:

Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and. so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.

I would say MGTOW fall into the better neighbors camp.

Very true. One quote I heard awhile back that I really like is “Marxism is the opiate of life’s losers”.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

@russky The video ends at 1:40:49 did you change the link?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Varun wrote:

@russky The video ends at 1:40:49 did you change the link?

I checked it and it goes to 2:20:xx. I didn’t do anything. You better check your priviledge there on your end

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[VarunParticipant 2981]

Russky wrote:

Varun wrote:

@russky The video ends at 1:40:49 did you change the link?

I checked it and it goes to 2:20:xx. I didn’t do anything. You better check your priviledge there on your end

Will try playing in my laptop once I get home. Might be a bug.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

@varun

2:20:49 = 140:49

One is counting in hours and minutes and seconds. The other is counting in just minutes and seconds. That’s more of a “feature” than a bug.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

sidecar wrote:

@varun

2:20:49 = 140:49

One is counting in hours and minutes and seconds. The other is counting in just minutes and seconds. That’s more of a “feature” than a bug.

haha! I didn’t even think of that. nice catch

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[VarunParticipant 2981]

sidecar wrote:

@varun

2:20:49 = 140:49

One is counting in hours and minutes and seconds. The other is counting in just minutes and seconds. That’s more of a “feature” than a bug.

Got it. Thanks.

But its a useless feature, unless YouTube has a hidden motive to make its viewers better at maths.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

I think I missed it. At what point are the red pill and MGTOW addressed?

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

MIKETOW wrote:

I think I missed it. At what point are the red pill and MGTOW addressed?

1:53:00 see my original post

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[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Varun wrote:

But its a useless feature,

Most “features” are.

For those who aren’t into programming, a bug is when the application fails. A “feature” is when the application works, but the programmer failed.

It’s kind of a tongue in cheek joke name for things that should have been fixed but the programmers can’t be bothered because it doesn’t affect the primary functionality of the product.

Clearly whoever wrote that app didn’t consider the possibility that some videos might be more than an hour long.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

Russky wrote:

MIKETOW wrote:

I think I missed it. At what point are the red pill and MGTOW addressed?

1:53:00 see my original post

I must need sleep as I still didn’t catch it. He talked about how feminism is bad and how we need a return to traditional gender roles. But I didn’t continue watching past 1:58:00.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Nope. No MGTOW address (but it might have been muffled) right after the “Trump tower” part. Bu he does talk about “civilization will pull itself back like it always has”.

I also didn’t get Sidecar’s racism part at 1:55:50. I’m damn sure somebody changed the video.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

Varun wrote:

Nope. No MGTOW address (but it might have been muffled) right after the “Trump tower” part. Bu he does talk about “civilization will pull itself back like it always has”.

I also didn’t get Sidecar’s racism part at 1:55:50. I’m damn sure somebody changed the video.

That makes sense

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Russky wrote:

MIKETOW wrote:

I think I missed it. At what point are the red pill and MGTOW addressed?

1:53:00 see my original post

It appears video has been edited since. But I found the question it’s at 1:35:00

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Varun wrote:

I also didn’t get Sidecar’s racism part at 1:55:50. I’m damn sure somebody changed the video.

Yeah, that’s definitely not the same video. The part about racism (which it turns out he was talking about the alt-right, not MGTOW) was in a questions and answers period, and at 1:55 in this new version of the video it looks like he’s still giving his main presentation.

I did not know youtube allowed people to edit or modify videos after posting them, but apparently that’s possible.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

1:35:00 in the new video

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