Mgtow with daughters, question

[TwistParticipant]

freedom wrote:

she was a total ass to me, but she adored her mother, even though that woman used to beat her up throughout her entire childhood.

Enmeshment via FOG (Fear, Obligation, Guilt). They are very good at this.

Some interesting academic studies of the attachment system showed that abuse often leads to enhanced desire to bond.

(some sources from Childress)

Seay, B. Alexander, B.K., and Harlow, H.F. (1964). Maternal behavior of socially deprived rhesus monkeys. Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology, 69, 345-354

van der Kolk, B.A. (1987). The separation cry and the trauma response: Developmental issues in the psychobiology of attachment and separation. In B.A. van der Kolk (Ed.) Psychological Trauma (31-62). Washington, D.C.: American Psychiatric Press, Inc.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

Ogre wrote:

Crying is blackmail and the answer is automatically No, so they don’t even try it.

That’s great advice for dealing with any child.

Hell, it’s great advice for dealing with adults too.

Ogre wrote:

I played a pretty strong role in daughters’ upbringing, but at their core they are women. No amount of fine tuning of their natural characteristics can make them unicorns, but at least they know not to cry to manipulate me.

Crying is blackmail and the answer is automatically No, so they don’t even try it.

Watch how this daddy deals with his crying kid. He nails it.

https://www.facebook.com/RICORELZ/videos/10155299659534733/

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

freedom wrote:

Wondering how Mgtow men who have daughters don’t feel conflicted, do you think your daughters are any different? if not, how do you see this all matter when thinking of them?

A very interesting question. My daughter is about to enter Year 9 (8th Grade US) and, I think like most Dads – ideology, philosophy, my own sovereignty, whatever, takes second place to her well being. As my mother is deceased, my daughter is the only female who gets this priority.

Looking after children (male or female) is a biological and moral imperative whereas the issues with Western women is a cultural problem. Biology wins every time.

Will I try and guide/advise my daughter to not be a feminist and try and appreciate men’s issues?
Absolutely.

Do I think her mother will be a bad influence on her?
Definitely.

Do I think she’s be like all other western women when she grows up?
Yes. But hopefully I can tone it down.

Conflicted is the right word for it, but there is no question of priority.

I’d be interested to know how MGTOW with sons are guiding/advising them.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

When my daughter was very young I made a rule, ” If you say I want” the answer is automatically NO. You can say you like something, and you might get it.

I made her say “yes please” and “I’d be happy to.” It became a very pleasant habit.

I told her if she did not get an education get used to saying “Would you like fries with that?”

I made her cook from a kid’s cookbook starting at 10 years old. I made her make one meal a week starting at 12, the first ones were not that good, but she learned, she is a great cook now. She puts on the family holiday meals.

I explained that men will say anything to get into your pants. I think she has only been with her husband.

Her mother was living her own life , she can hardly stand her mother now. In a way I was lucky my ex was not interested in raising her. I had her every other week, all summer and holiday breaks.

My daughter is now 29, still my baby although a very competent woman with a professional job.

I think she will always love me.

I have my doubts she will stay with her husband just because of the society. She is still influenced by media and Fakebook.

Do your best, raise your daughter well, you are their first love and example.

[EdifyParticipant 84]

My daughter is 3, havent seen her for well over a year now, dont know what she looks like and sounds like now. Its a distant memory.
But she is with her narcissistic mother, A family of mentally ill females, with all men silenced or dead. I know for sure how she will grow upto be, Bitter and angry, just like her mother.

Thats her fate and this mine as well, cant do nothing about it. helpless? yes definitely? Pointless in fighting? of course.

But if i did have chance to advise her , i would tell her she can either be a career women, or a house wife. She cant be both. She cant choose to go career and then at 35 say i want to get married, or be a housewife and then say i am oppressed and want to divorce rape a guy.

But MGTOW has taught me the true nature of women, she will choose one and still complain, and she cant do nothing about it, it is in their nature.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Not incidental to my influence, all of my daughters have stated they will never vote for a woman for any position due to their moral and emotional inconsistency.

Hillary was a slam dunk that confirmed my life long teachings to them. They know other women are snakes. Time will tell if they can deny their nature completely.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

No.

That’s why I raised her to be logical and not expect favors from men. You want it, you work for it.

Fuck this planet.

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