Mgtow with daughters, question

[freedomParticipant 5129]

Wondering how Mgtow men who have daughters don’t feel conflicted, do you think your daughters are any different? if not, how do you see this all matter when thinking of them?

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

I doubt they plan on marrying their daughters 😀

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

I do not have a daughter, but if I did she would be the only woman that I would White Knight for. Her and my mother ONLY. Mom has earned it.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Interesting question. On one hand, my daughters are my daughters and I will love them no matter what. On the other hand, if they act like a bitch and it comes back to bite her in the ass, I will be the first to tell them I told you so.

Look at it this way. The bar has been set SO LOW by women over the last 20 years or so that it doesn’t take much to make my daughters in the top 10% of all women. If they learn that their actions have consequences they go straight to the head of the class.

So far my oldest has only had one boyfriend. He was a narcissist, which is perfect. I got to teach her about his tactics and motives. Now, if she ever pulls that s~~~ on a boy I will also be right there to tell that she’s being a bitch. The one thing they know they get from their dad is the truth.

Order the good wine

[OgreParticipant 5863]

I played a pretty strong role in daughters’ upbringing, but at their core they are women. No amount of fine tuning of their natural characteristics can make them unicorns, but at least they know not to cry to manipulate me.

Crying is blackmail and the answer is automatically No, so they don’t even try it.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

I don’t have daughter but I don’t think women ALONE are the problem, it is women COUPLED WITH THE STATE. Women are inherently greedy, selfish,etc but without a means for forcing that greed (the state) on men, we would just tell them STFU and there wouldn’t be scale of problem there is
I’d raise my daughter to never rely on the state for your resources, always be self-reliant, etc

[OldBillParticipant]

surfdude12 wrote:

I don’t have daughter but I don’t think women ALONE are the problem, it is women COUPLED WITH THE STATE.

^^^THIS^^^

Horrific behaviors are innate in all human beings and thus are usually discouraged and controlled through law and custom by the state and society.

In the case of modern women, the worst aspects of their innate behavior are no longer discouraged but are instead actively encouraged. Worse yet, such behaviors are rewarded.

Not only does society and the state choose to abet the worst of female behavior, they also actively aid those who engage in that behavior through a system of “Cash & Prizes”.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[narwhalParticipant]

The question kind of presumes that we hate women, or at the very least, that they are genetically inferior. I don’t see it that way at all. Men and women are different. Heck, people are different.

I try and teach my son and daughter the same, as best that I can. I want them both to be happy, and aware of the reality of the world around them. They are still young, and much of reality, I don’t think they are quite ready for.

The most common teaching moment, within context, is to talk about whatever pop culture issue comes up in conversation. I point out where some popular lyric treat men fairly, or when some man is behaving like a moron just to please a woman. I’d rather spend my time teaching them to think about things instead of just accepting everything they are told.

Ok. Then do it.

[OldBillParticipant]

Ogre wrote:

Crying is blackmail and the answer is automatically No, so they don’t even try it.

That’s great advice for dealing with any child.

Hell, it’s great advice for dealing with adults too.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22538]

Well, to continue humanity, we need women to become mothers and half children. But, that does not mean said women have to be man-hated feminists welfare whores.

For those MGTOW with daughters, the best hope is to steer your daughters to grow to be trade-con women. And for the love that is all that is good, do not lead them go to a SJW college. If you have bribe them by paying for community college it would be worth it for everyone involved.

This could come back to reward you.

I know several trade-con women whom later took in their parents into their whom and took care of them, both mothers and fathers, when their parents grew old.

It is a gamble. But, it is far better than having to deal with fighting a daughter whom went to SJW a college and became man-hating feminists, with you later, when you are old, having to fight conservatorship by that man-hating daughter, whom wants to put you in a run down nursing home so she can squander the wealth you spent a lifetime to build.

Unless you die beforehand, eventually will grow so old you will need help. And if you child takes you in, and you believe this is just for your child to inherit your wealth. Think about it this way. If you child is not trying to steal you wealth while you are alive and your child takes good care of you for ten or so years. Let the child have the wealth. Someone will end up with the wealth, better it be someone whom earned that wealth.

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Mine is entering 8th grade and the middle school BS is off the charts crazy. Social media keeps it going now 365 24/7. I try to instill in my daughter the she needs to not worry about what other kids are doing it won’t matter very soon. As far as MGTOW type advice, I tell her she needs to do good in school to someday get a good job and not have to rely on anyone else in this world (hint husband). My biggest fear for her is she is going to watch mom monkey branch and think this is how life works. My ex has no choice but to monkey branch so I am trying to instill this in her without ever mentioning mom. God help me…

Get a vasectomy.

[Anonymous 3]

I have a 21 years old daughter. I love her very much and I am here for her.
But that also means disown her and cut all support because she needs it. I did it, she learned.
She put her act together and we talked like adults. I support her again through the rest of her studies.

I love my daughter, but AWALT!

[joetechParticipant]

My daughter is handicapped and will live with her mom for the rest of her life. It is what it is. I have four nieces, too.One is sort of an adopted niece and although we’re not close, I love it that she called off her wedding in Vegas. I was one of the few that supported her in this decision. My oldest niece takes care of her dad and is always there for me as well. Her two sisters, however, have been poisoned by their mother. You’ve never met two more selfish assholes in your life. I won’t even speak to them. You pick your friends, but family is a roll of the dice.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

I have a niece (from a single mom) so I somewhat being her father figure.

Things I do for her is quick to correct SJW BS she picked up in school, and make her work for reward. Definitely no pussy pass

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

I figure when my daughter is older, I’ll probably p~~~ her off by Red-Pilling any guy who wants to marry her.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 0]

My sister, which I love, is a pretty nice girl ^^ She’s 16 years old, she is kind to me and she respects whatever I say or think because I proved to be strong and such. Yet she takes advantadge of whatever she can on our parents (Not that I care about that, but she has the natural tendency to do so). Anyway, just like me, she was raised in the same family in which the mum was a bitching c~~~ and even though she obliterated as much as she could during the divorce, things are going REALLY bad for her. I do not believe she will count on anyone to save her from finances, because she had their example and I explained the situatin to her in detail. She was considering getting a dance degree instead of a STEM related degree though (Which I explained why would be a terrible idea, now she agrees) and I believe she’s going to be happy and pretty moral. The tendency to take advantadge is there though.
In my electrical engineering studies I found many girls. Even if there’s a clear bias towards them when it comes to scores and such, I would say almost every single one of them is capable of working as an engineer. None of them are the most brilliant minds around, but most of them are hard-workers and almost none are stupid/emotionally explosively unstable (I just can think of 2 right now). And I’m pretty sure they are not thinking about taking advantadge of any guys work when they study and such. I’ll tell you 4 years from now when we are all working! I love to believe that my sister will become such a person, and she’ll be way, way happier than my mother is.

If I ever have a girl or boy I guess al take the same approach. I’m never gonna get in marriage Deep s~~~, but I still enjoy sex (Not so much during the last few months, but I guess some workout and less stress at uni will make out for it :P) and s~~~ happens. Just as I proved to be a better, more intelligent, reliable source of knowledge for my sister than my mother has, the same would be true in such case. And the outcome in being an influence to her it’s been more than positive to everyone: Because I have a much more reliable person as a sister, because she’s going to be happier, because she learnt to see through many people’s bulls~~~, and because I had the best time teaching her many things about human nature, how we lived at home, maths, science, and shiet.

I’ll let you know how it comes out in the end. Maybe it brokes. Maybe she becomes a massive bitch at some point. But she knows the difference between the animal cape, and the human cape. She knows that menstruation plays tricks on her, she knows how agressively our father could act when things are not going his way, she knows I can become a terrible bully and one of the most destructive persons to have ever existed when I things don’t go my way and I lose my cool too. I was planning on write a thread just about this too, and I wonder how every MGTOW father deals with this s~~~. Maybe I’m just living an illusion, and I fear that could be the case. Let me explain:
I’m 10 years older than her, so her Friends who are around 15-18 are already women. They find me attractive and it’s been clear in many instances. I’m pretty sure the few male Friends she has find me intimidating, yet I have a good relationship with all of them. Once I kicked from our home a guy who was one of her girlfriends boyfriend because I didn’t like something he said. She clearly sees me as a figure of authority and a good reference. So what bugs me is: Would every logical explanation that I gave her have had the same effect if I was just some weak nerd? (I’m a nerd, just not weak :P) I hope it would.
Because that’s how every human should take its own decisions.

Love guys, for you and every person you have influence over! <3

EDIT: PD:

I forgot to mention that, one of my female college friends’ mother rejected alimony because she made enough money on her own and she didn’t want to take what wasn’t legitly hers. I’m pretty sure she’d act the same. She’s promiscuous and jumps to whatever the guy find most attractive and such as any woman would do, yet she’s pretty honest about it (at least towards me).

[TwistParticipant]

freedom wrote:

Wondering how Mgtow men who have daughters don’t feel conflicted

Oh – I feel conflicted. And that conflict made digesting the red pill that much harder. Bitter beyond bitter.

To see the trans-generational transfer of traits, behaviors and belief-structure before your eyes is easy to ignore, to excuse, to deny.

But ignorant.

As I was.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

I have a daughter who recently turned 15. Puberty changed her a lot. Hopefully she’ll come back to her senses once her prefrontal cortex has kicked in again. At the moment, I have just realized I have to wait out those teenage years and hope for the best.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[SwimcatParticipant 3591]

I have two daughters both young adults. The older one is married but has no children. Both are successful and happy in their work. In both cases their jobs have taken them out of town and I miss them. My son still lives here and I seriously doubt he’ll move. All three were greatly effected by the death of their mother. My daughters, particularly the older one, are very wary of any women wanting to be their step mother and guard me like a couple of pit bulls. Both worry about me living alone, and constantly inquire into my well being.

[freedomParticipant 5129]

After reading some of the comments and from my own knowledge of my surroundings, I conclude that it seems that women are great offsprings, even better than men, so it always strikes me odd why they are such terrible partners to life? I also saw it with one of my ex, she was a total ass to me, but she adored her mother, even though that woman used to beat her up throughout her entire childhood.

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