mgtow: Not Far Enough

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

Beware the Lamiae wrote:

You’d be doing me a favor honestly. I got sick of dealing with Tradcons, PUA’s and f~~~ing Christians that plague your site. A side-effect of poorly defining mgtow from the beginning.

Say what?

How can you blame KeyMaster for other’s inability to read?

I’d say MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY, and the various sources on the internet readily suffice anyone of average intelligence.

What’s even more hilarious is that you blame KeyMaster for these Tradcons, PUAs and “f~~~ing” Christians *opinions*.

C~~~ carousel has nothing to do with MGTOW, it’s a label for an observed phenomenon of feminized western women.

This isn’t SWATV, SAVE WOMEN AND THEIR VIRTUE.

 

I heavily sense that you resent you fellow MGTOWers because their ideas don’t match yours, and their lifestyle doesn’t match yours, and they’re out there getting pussy and you’re not, so you cry out for nobody to have pussy.

You’re like a kid with a toy (MGTOW) and if you can’t play with it how you want, you don’t want ANYONE to play with it.

You’re just as entitled sounding as some feminist c~~~, and it’s rather sad.

 

 

 

[v9wlmn8c1982Participant 83]

Well first of all, any man who gets an ego boost from sex must still be in the blue pill world. Women do however naturally get an ego boost from sex, because they are the one’s who want to feel desired and it’s always the man who’s lusting after a woman. It’s a woman who want to feel attractive and cared for, a man who’s left the matrix doesn’t care for that s~~~ but a woman still would. The reason why men get an ego boost from sex is because like everything, men have been trained to think like women and this is just one small part of that.

So no, for MGTOW sex shouldn’t be about an ego boost and this topic the OP brought up was pertaining to MGTOW. For the blue pill men it may be an ego boost, which is why I consider PUA’s to be blue pill.

The point the OP is making is that thing would change if all men went celibate. That would truly be men going their own way. Yes if only a small amount of men went celibate it wouldn’t change anything, it has to be a collective thing. It’s not realistic, but society would change for sure if it happened.

 

And comparing sex with food. Food is needed to survive, sex isn’t. Sex is an option, but it’s been conditioned into men they need it that it’s now became a drug, no different to alcohol and any other type of pleasure. If people want to indulge in that then that’s their choice but that’s what it is.

[Beware the LamiaeSpectator 89]

You missed my point which was that Sandman has never marketed s~~~, neither has this website. Having class in your execution of videography isn’t marketing, neither is having a badass website devoted to an “idea.” Neither Sandman or Keymaster have marketed MGTOW, if they have, then its to the same extent for having classy content and a classy website. As far as profit, Sandman has accumulated money from donations (so has Stardusk). But Sandman has said plenty of times he is reinvesting the money back into a mgtow documentary or something like it. He also paid his property tax with it so that can’t be more than a few hundred. Takes money to make money, as businessmen we all know that.

There is a lot of empty accusations thrown at Sandman. Sometimes people just learn to hate someone after that were misunderstood and defamed for that misunderstanding. Too late now and not really worth dissecting. But if y’all want to ally yourself with Sandman (afterall, he’s a mgtow producer with a huge following) nows the time, anyday now for an excellent website designer (keymaster), excellent philosopher (Stardusk & Bar Bar) and excellent videographer to come together instead of taking a dump on each other bi-monthly.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@BewaretheLamiae

I produced an HD video intro for BarBar over 3 days for no charge and sent it to him at 5AM on a Sunday.
Something Sandman would never do, but I did see a request for cash he posted on an Australian website.

Don’t speak about me ever again, pretend to know anything, or compare me to anyone else.

You’re a f~~~ing idiot lying no-integrity-having piece of s~~~.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[OldscoundrellParticipant 412]

v9wlmn8c1982 wrote:

Actually things would change.

This is at best hypothesis material, not even close to even a theory, in real world application.

1. It requires men as a collective whole to be celibate. Spoil alert…with the sex culture in media alone. Never going to happen.

2. Withholding dick does not have much of an effect on a woman. She will probly just think the celibate man is really just a gay man and brush it off. I don’t think that women could comprehend it. Their simple emotional thought process would have to make the connection from not getting laid ALL the way over to men’s value?. I doubt it.

(Just to clarify, the term gay man was used to portray simplistic thinking of a woman. And not my personal opinion.)

[Anonymous 42]

Sandman “explained” his income; NOT MANLY! Sandman labeled celibate mgtow’s “FILTHY COWARDS” never apologized; NOT MANLY!

Then to listen to peacemakers that would rather dress an infection than to push out all the puss, Sandman created the wound, then walked away not concerned about any infection at all!

This puss dripping thread deserves the litterbox!

[Beware the LamiaeSpectator 89]

Im much more amiable in person. A lot of tone is lost here. Apologies.

MGTOW aint my toy bro. I care a little but not that much.

Ive had plenty of pussy, almost been married, had pregnant girlfriends and a fiance abort my kid without permision–lied said it was miscarry.

Ive been through it and honestly its not like Im a monk and have sworn off sex. Its just a highway I rarely have to stop for gas on. Getting ass once in a decade is as close to celibacy as I can tolerate.

The reality is that sex is a handicap for men and the root of feminist power. You convince a few million men of this truth, they swear off sex for a few years and watch as misandry and feminism is uprooted and laid to waste. 

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Beware the Lamiae wrote:

We aren’t getting laid, that’s a f~~~ing fact.

Hahahahahahahaha! No.

Here’s the thing I think you’re missing: MGTOW is not about sex. It’s about freedom. And money, because in a market economy money equals freedom. MGTOW don’t deny women sex. They deny women what they REALLY want: money.

Now I’m certain a large percentage of the women I’ve laid expected in the back of their heads some sort of payout to come from it. They were mistaken. But that’s entirely on them, not me.

Beware the Lamiae wrote:

You missed my point which was that Sandman has never marketed s~~~, neither has this website.

Bulls~~~. Sandman markets himself CONSTANTLY. He’s not MGTOW. He’s not Going His Own Way. He’s going the money’s way. You talk about pussy beggars, well sandman is that, and a money beggar too. And boring as f~~~ to boot.

tl;dr: F~~~ Sandman.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

sidecar wrote:

MGTOW don’t deny women sex. They deny women what they REALLY want: money.

+ Attention.

Treat attention like women treat sex = Magic.

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“Beware” started this pouting f~~~~~ry hissifit on Google a couple of days ago when we announced the first 15 feature channels here. Think about that for a second first. We write f~~~ing software that connects to youtube and LIVE brings down an entire channel(s) and displays it on a website with pagination including ALL videos belonging to a channel – and all thumbnail images, ratings descriptions and associated data. Auto updating – hourly. FOR FREE. OVER THREE MONTHS in testing and development – with the ability to archive them here. And this f~~~ing f~~~~~ c~~~ goes on in endless paragraphs because f~~~ing Sandman isn’t on the list.

I told him if he wanted to see Sandman on the list, he and Sandman would have to email us and ASK – very, very nicely.
We have the whole the conversation in print.

HE still didn’t do it. He refused to do it. Just paragraphs giving everyone else s~~~ for not being a Sandman ass-licker like himself.

So he came here instead and decided to take his Sandman butthole-licking issues out on everyone else.
Instead of saying “please”. Because he’s too f~~~ing proud to email and say “please”.

Like Sandman, this kind of c~~~ is not MGTOW.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[UltimaThuleParticipant 32]

Exsliventxs, I was talking about pursuing sex, not just sexual acts. There is a crucial difference, because men do the vast majority of pursuing the opposite sex. Women turn down a much larger number of sexual advances than men do, on average. The female ego is not fed by the f~~~ing but the being pursued.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

I was beginning to wonder if Beware had some Sandman “stock” somewhere, you know, since if you were to make Sandman videos more readily accessible to the MGTOW community the donations towards Sandman would see a lot more potential.

I was always taught to follow the money, but what do I know?

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

Beware the Lamiae wrote:

The reality is that sex is a handicap for men and the root of feminist power. You convince a few million men of this truth, they swear off sex for a few years and watch as misandry and feminism is uprooted and laid to waste.

Disguising opinions as “reality” is precisely why we are all in this f~~~ing mess.  There’s a massive difference between fact, perception, and projection.

“sex is a handicap for men and the root of feminist power”.

Sex may be a handicap for you; it’s not for me, and I obtain it when I desire it, just like anything else.  That statement is purely your projection.  It could be better worded as “Sex is a handicap for me, and is the root of what I perceive to be causing MY problems”.

It’s no more of a handicap for me than food is.  As far as the root of feminist power goes?  The root of their power only goes so deep as that of which you choose to embrace.  And you seem to be doing that very nicely.

 

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

UltimaThule wrote:

Exsliventxs, I was talking about pursuing sex, not just sexual acts. There is a crucial difference, because men do the vast majority of pursuing the opposite sex. Women turn down a much larger number of sexual advances than men do, on average. The female ego is not fed by the f~~~ing but the being pursued.

It still levels out, because for every few thousand of minor ego boosts a woman gets for being hit on and chased, the average man gets an ego x 10000 boost when he actually nails the woman he targeted.

If it wasn’t some sort of equal transaction, one of the two genders would have completely fallen out with the other, and as you can see everything still works to a degree, other than government and feminism f~~~ing with their heads and ruining marriage….

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Keymaster wrote:

+ Attention.

True, but I was thinking more in societal terms, not individual ones. Beware kept going on and on about changing society or some such s~~~. And if you make the mistake of getting married or letting your sperm go where it shouldn’t, the family courts aren’t going to be ordering you to make monthly attention payments.

Also attention itself is just a stepping stone into your wallet. She can’t get at your resources if she can’t first get your attention. So the trick is to withhold your attention. She will then work even harder to earn it in the eventual hope of getting at your wealth. Which you also keeping from her. Women are attracted to what they hope to get, not what they’ve already gotten. That’s something the pussy begging white knights can’t seem to figure out. Don’t hold the door for a woman hoping she’ll f~~~ you; she won’t. Instead leave it closed in her face and she will do anything for you in the hope that you will hold it open for her next time. Continue leaving it closed.

Treat attention like women treat sex. Magic.

Exactly. Summed it up in one sentence.

[v9wlmn8c1982Participant 83]

Oldscoundrell wrote:

WalkingMOW wrote:

Actually things would change.

This is at best hypothesis material, not even close to even a theory, in real world application. 1. It requires men as a collective whole to be celibate. Spoil alert…with the sex culture in media alone. Never going to happen. 2. Withholding dick does not have much of an effect on a woman. She will probly just think the celibate man is really just a gay man and brush it off. I don’t think that women could comprehend it. Their simple emotional thought process would have to make the connection from not getting laid ALL the way over to men’s value?. I doubt it. (Just to clarify, the term gay man was used to portray simplistic thinking of a woman. And not my personal opinion.)

1. I agree it’s not going to happen, which is why nothing will change.

2. A worldwide collective of men withholding dick would indeed cause a massive effect on women. Yeah a few men doing it won’t be missed, all men doing it and women would be begging men for sex and chasing men. They won’t think it in a logical response, they would just go looking for male attention. You destroy this poisonous western female by not giving her attention which a man who’s chasing pussy is doing the opposite.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

v9wlmn8c1982 wrote:

You destroy this poisonous western female by not giving her attention which a man who’s chasing pussy is doing the opposite.

You’re equating the transaction of f~~~ing a woman to chasing pussy.

The process and act of “Chasing Pussy” may feed the poisoned western female, and their princess egos, but the very act of banging them doesn’t.

You can get laid without demeaning yourself, or without doing very much chasing at all.

Let her worry about all the s~~~ you are worrying about.  All of that is a construct.  You’re putting a vagina up on a pedestal when it’s in fact in a gutter.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Watch Stardusk’s latest video about the bitch from Huffington post. He has stated that sandman is the cause of this. Because sandman just throw up videos every day he does it half ass so people don’t really know about MGTOW. This hurts MGTOW because some men see the MGTOW seems real bad, if he’s lucky he’ll watch other MGTOW videos. Low quality videos will attract low quality people to attack you claims Stardusk. This is a good reason now to have sandman channel on this site. Sandman might work hard producing videos however it’s not good quality although his videos were the first ones I have watched.

Sandman also stated in an interview if I’m not mistaken that he is sleeping with a feminists in Toronto because the sex is good. This asshole is just trying to make money off MGTOW by getting views.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[v9wlmn8c1982Participant 83]

EscapedMentalPatient wrote:

WalkingMOW wrote:

You destroy this poisonous western female by not giving her attention which a man who’s chasing pussy is doing the opposite.

You’re equating the transaction of f~~~ing a woman to chasing pussy. The process and act of “Chasing Pussy” may feed the poisoned western female, and their princess egos, but the very act of banging them doesn’t. You can get laid without demeaning yourself, or without doing very much chasing at all. Let her worry about all the s~~~ you are worrying about. All of that is a construct. You’re putting a vagina up on a pedestal when it’s in fact in a gutter.

F~~~ing a woman is pointless also if it’s just about an orgasm, even if she’s the one doing the chasing. It’s not about putting vagina on a pedestal, it’s about putting sex as a whole on a pedestal. That is the problem that sex has been cheapened into just a drug for men and women. The thing is, it’s a drug that has dire consequences for a man if he isn’t careful. It shouldn’t be treated that way. And it all goes back to this for most of the problems we have now in society.

This is not about sex before marriage or anything like this. That’s just a silly ceremony. But sex was never meant to be this play thing it’s been promoted as and that is the problem. You can say it all you want that it doesn’t affect us as an individual, but it does, because you’re part of this world and the world is shaped by this even if you opt out of it like I’m doing.

But, I assure you I’m not worrying, just something I know about and I have observed.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5118]

if a MGTOW decides to get laid, he is actually tempering the pussy market value.  If he uses a skank to f~~~ and chuck, who cares because she is always going to be a slut – zero sum.  If he has a woman with some brains, and she can handle being held at arms length, he may mitigate her ego to a degree – positive.

Sovereignty above all else.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

v9wlmn8c1982 wrote:

The thing is, it’s a drug that has dire consequences for a man if he isn’t careful.

I don’t recall saying anything about not being careful.

Anyone can argue that ANY action one partakes in is going to change the world ala butterfly effect.  But the state of sex as we know it is at where it’s at, and with as far gone as it is, you’re going to be insignificant in your pursuit in not having it.  Regardless of MGTOW, I wish you luck in convincing the remainder of the world’s population in engaging in celibacy.

If you think that my banging a woman who has come to me to have sex, is going to be a concern for me you’re sorely mistaken.  I’ve got it under control 😉

Things might well be playing out for you in that manner, but they aren’t for me.  Nor would I allow them to.

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