MGTOW ideas in the Bible

[UntamedParticipant]

Ohno wrote:

what are you saying? thats its impossible to hold the 10 commendments?

1. God knows we cannot rule over each other successfully.
2. If you accept Gods authority then you follow his rules, thats the way you show your love for god.

Its not easy to hold his commendments as satan will s~~~-test us til the end of time ( not the end of the world ) but it can be done of course.

Of course. It can be done but not consistently throughout a lifetime. The one who fulfills the Law is then perfect, “without blemish”.
I only know of one man of whom God said “… This is my son, in whom I AM well pleased.” (!!) He’s without blemish, not of the seed of fallen man. A “second Adam” who, incidentally, had only one forbiddance about a certain “tree”.

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[OhnoParticipant 668]

Untamed wrote:

Of course. It can be done but not consistently throughout a lifetime. The one who fulfills the Law is then perfect, “without blemish”.
I only know of one man of whom God said “… This is my son, in whom I AM well pleased.” (!!) He’s without blemish, not of the seed of fallen man. A “second Adam” who, incidentally, had only one forbiddance about a certain “tree”.

This is my son, in whom I AM well pleased.”

that doesnt automatically mean that hes the ONLY son of god, but hes the only son that ABSOLUTELY pleases him.. Thats why hes THE WAY! and we should view him as our role model.

Bible prophecy clearly says that in the end of days jesus will come back from the heavens on a cloud and everyone will see him. Jesus, the only son without blemish will rule the world after the end of times…that doesent mean everyone that isnt that great is a piece of s~~~…it means that Jesus is gods will in perfection. Some people think God has revealed himself through Jesus, means that Jesus is God.

Do your best and try to be righteous is the message i would say….we are all sinners, but that is nothing that should stop us from at least trying to hold gods law out of love for our creator and the beautiful planet and the lifespan that was given to us.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Proverbs 31:3 Do not spend your strength on women nor your vigor on those who ruin kings.

In doesn’t get more red pill than that.

[Anonymous 3]

I am glad to see MGTOW turn to the Bible. MGTOW for me was like a step in the right direction. I think we figured out ourselves that something was wrong with society. That gynocracy is unnatural.

But you need to turn to the Bible and it opens your eyes as to just how God intended we live. The Bible is very what you’d consider “red pill.” The only exception really is it also doesn’t excuse bad male behavior, God is against fornication, adultery etc. But he created marriage in a way so those things aren’t supposed to even be an issue.

The modern West has thrown things away, and then has hidden the Bible. Churches warped God’s message, and have “enlightened” or “modernized” Christianity into something it isn’t, into a joke.

You must seek the source material yourself and understand pure Christianity.

Oh if only the West was truly a Christian nation. I’ve thought that so many times. I think it was once, and that’s why it rose above others. But it has lost that, and I think God is beginning to drop the West downwards now. We are in for some difficult times my friends…

[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

If religion works for you fine.

I say keep religion out of MGTOW, no exceptions.

If religion is of interest to men then it belongs in MGTOW. I’m totally a first amendment guy and I love apologetics. Maybe there should be an apologetics section.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

what are you saying? thats its impossible to hold the 10 commendments?

Absolutely. The Pharisees thought they were keeping the law but Christ came and repeatedly told them that it also applies to the intents of their hearts. …”For I say unti you whoever so much has looked upon his neighbors wife with lust has committed adultery”…”Every man has fallen short of the glory of God”.

That is why Christ came to be the perfect sacrificial lamb in our place…”For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.” Romans 10:4.

We could never fulfill it. Paul discusses this at length in Romans “the law produces death, but I am no longer bound by the law”. Christ produces life in you and the FRUITS (a natural process not a law) of the spirit.

Resident cynic.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

The word Pharisee means “pure,” or “separated,” and was an apt term for this group of ultra-Orthodox men who distanced themselves from the unrighteous while they established many extraneous commandments in connection with their pursuit of holiness. In the time of Jesus, there were several thousand Pharisees in Israel led by two main schools of philosophy.

The meaning of the Old Testament word tsedakah had changed from “righteousness” to “almsgiving” by the time of Jesus.
To the Pharisees, almsgiving was the most important aspect of righteousness. The “Kingdom of Heaven” is the name for the body of disciples of Jesus. He warns that if one’s righteousness is reduced to almsgiving, one cannot be in His movement.

Matthew 5:20 Context

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:17: “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.”

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

German Truther,

Im honestly not sure what you believe/what your doctrine is. Do you honestly believe that man can keep Gods law and achieve salvation by his own works?

The bible is clear that no man can attain salvation by works, but only through faith in Christ, who fulfilled the law and sacrifice to God for us.

Ephisians 2:8

For by grace you have been saved, that not of yourself but a gift of God

Romans 4:19

now we know that whatever the law says it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped,

and ALL THE WORLD MAY BECOME GUILTY BEFORE GOD. THEREFORE BY THE DEEDS OF THE LAW NO FLESH WILL BE JUSTIFIED IN HIS SIGHT. FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.

But now the righteousness of God APART FROM THE LAW is revealed, being witnessed by the law and prophets. Even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ to all and on all who BELIEVE

ROMANS 7:4

my brethren you also have become DEAD TO THE LAW through the body of Christ that you may be married to another to Him who was raised from the dead that we should bear fruit to God.

For when we were in the flesh the sinful passions WHICH WERE AROUSED BY THE LAW were at work in our members ti bear FRUIT TO DEATH.

But now we have been DELIVERED FROM THE LAW having died to what we were held by so that we should serve in the NEWNESS OF THE SPIRIT and not in the oldness of the letter

I could quote all if Romans but it would take too long.

Resident cynic.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Im honestly not sure what you believe/what your doctrine is. Do you honestly believe that man can keep Gods law and achieve salvation by his own works?

What I believe is that man should try to keep Gods law, because Gods law wasnt destroyed by jesus but fulfilled.
So man should look at how Jesus fulfilled it, through love.
I dont believe that I can achieve salvation only by works, because….

John 3:16

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 14:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Romans 10:9

Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

John 3:16

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

I guess what i wrote further above is wrong then.

Ohno wrote:

This is my son, in whom I AM well pleased.”

that doesnt automatically mean that hes the ONLY son of god, but hes the only son that ABSOLUTELY pleases him..

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Didn’t Paul say something about some people aren’t supposed to get married.

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[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

So man should look at how Jesus fulfilled it, through love.
I dont believe that I can achieve salvation only by works, because…

I 100% agree with you man. I wasnt clear on your earlier posts. But I completely agree with you.

The word says that we will develop the fruit of the spirit. So in keeping the law, it is now a natural relationship that develops, rather than living up to a command/law. Obviously I believe we play a role in this as well

One interesting concept some guys on MGTOW (IliveAgain) have mentioned is keeping your frame. One proverb stands out to me in this regard

he who has no rule over his spirit is like a city with its walls broken down

That speaks volumes as to individual responsibility. Imagine an ancient city with broken down walls. Anything can be taken from it and anything foreign can be placed into it.

Thanks for sharing your faith.

Resident cynic.

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