MGTOW at Best and Worse

[Russky2Participant 3086]

I was watching a documentary where they talk what attracts women. Just keep in mind that I didn’t want to watch it for women. I wanted to confirm all of my doubts.

Number 1 thing that attracts women is-looks! Wow, it’s not all the money, fame or confidence that we have been led to believe. Looks are the most important thing, so you can be a degenerate with cute face and hot body and women will flock to you.

Anyway it doesn’t really matter. What concerned me from this documentary is the guy was talking about Mgtow and it having little or no affect on dating or women.

Ok, so men are boycotting marriage and not dating but women will always find simps and blue pilled ATM machines that will always satisfy their thirst for more greed.

What do you think MGTOW will achieve in the near future? I think at best we will make a lot of people see how rigged the whole dating and sex scene is, and maybe will force some uncomfortable changes. Probably not gonna happen. At worse (for the lack of better word) we will just continue witnessing good men getting destroyed with a late introduction to MGTOW.

With that said, I think a lot of men who have been introduced to MGTOW are either not prepared for Red Pill or do not know how to approach it as they have not been in the same experiences yet.

Because MGTOW is not a movement, then we will probably see the same trend. The numbers will slowly increase, but keep in mind that population and everything else regarding these manners will change. So how would we know that there is any progress if any is desired to be reached?

Personally I would like to see the whole f~~~ing thing change. The law has to change, women have take classes on how to treat men properly, buy us drinks/dinner or at least go back to the traditional wife role they once were good at.

But then again I hear lots of you would not even want that. And I ask myself the same thing, would I want a traditional wife? And to that I’d say yes, but ONLY if it was all genuine and not fake s~~~ they always pretend.

I’ve been raised by a single mother, but I consider her a good woman. She always treated men with respect, but just too soft on me. Women should never raise boys…probably not even girls.

And then my last point is, it’s f~~~ing sad to see all these marriages go to waste. Women are at fault, but also the society including men are somewhat guilty. For putting them on pedestal, buying them drinks/dinners and having them believe they can be equal to men.

To be honest with you all, I would rather see all of these marriages work and families not being destroyed. It’s incredibly sad reading about these stories, as it’s like reading a suicide letter. It’s sad to know that I will never have a family due to all the circumstances, my poor genetics (looks), status and money.

I am thankful though that my family is still together, despite the fact that my father in law was an abusive f~~~. But these kind of families are held together by strong traditional values, which have already been destroyed in the West mainly due to feminism and probably some other s~~~ty forces I’m not aware about.

I also wanted to have kids and just family in general, not because my mom or someone else wanted to but because it would mean someone I could love and care about. Yeah not in this f~~~ed up world I guess.

Sometimes I look at a woman and think that this creature would never hurt a fly, but then I remember someone posting a thread with this girl that would stab kittens or cut their heads of? What kind of a sick piece of s~~~ you have to be to do that? Whatever little confidence I’ve had about women being more “gentle”, than men. And even that is now shattered.

I honestly don’t know if there are genuinely kind, honest and independent women out there or is it all just a big f~~~ing lie? It seems like it is, cause they will always ask for men’s help. Why do they have to shove it down our throats, when it’s OK to ask men for help. These bitches can’t even throw out trash at work, then how can they call themselves independent?

And then come the double standards. I’ve been rejected by women mainly due to my physical attributes. Bold, short and kinds stalky. I have a deep voice and lots of confidence though, haven’t gotten me that many lays but whatever. The worse thing is when some f~~~ing ugly chick nags you trying to signal her interest. On many occasions I would let her know about the lack of interest, but they just don’t know where to f~~~ing stop.

So now that I’ve approached and exhausted really what I wanted to say, I think that indeed we will see the same trend. But at one point there will be something else. A total separation or even segregation probably. And also a much more f~~~ed up economy and overall state of affairs.

A lot of men have a belief that they NEED a woman to be successful. And I can attest to that, as one of my buddies started a business shortly after he got married. Well they will also find the road to failure much more quickly with a woman. How can they not see it? I have broken a relationship with probably my BEST friend, because of a woman. Because he didn’t listen to me and decided to go the Blue Pill way. All of that time I spent talking to him about his past marriage and not doing the same mistake again. But I knew he would do it and he did. I don’t know why people ask me any advice, when they do exact opposite. Perhaps I should have told him to get married along with all the benefits that come with it?

If this was a world that indeed ran the way society wants it to run, then we wouldn’t have any problems now would we? But there’s something f~~~ing wrong with Marriage, School and especially SCHOOL!!! I wanted to stop here to highlight this-School is a waste of f~~~ing time, but proper education is priceless and timeless.

I personally have learned more from browsing online sites than in my 12 years of high school. All the female teachers there also never helped, nor did they teach anything of value. They are also abusive and use physical violence to control children.

Then comes work. So we go to school-university-work. All of this s~~~ is outdated and needs total reorganization including looking into women’s wages. By that I mean seeing if they are being overpaid for doing the same f~~~ing work.

MGTOW AKBAR

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

You view on our world as a juxtaposition through a blue/red duel lens is spot on but this duality you continually see around you cannot be reconciled with what you were taught growing up and you are at odds with it still within your mind. The good thing is you woke up and were able to discern the truth from what you were taught at a young age through experience as this is the best teacher you will ever have. Over time these doubts, questions you have will be answered as you further continue on your path to enlightenment.

As for society you can’t fix something that is already dead. The concept of marriage, traditional roles, schooling, culture and society has changed to the point that what we see today is a walking corpse, a former shell of itself. Today you will rarely learn anything meaningful in a institutional setting as society and government move to indoctrinate people on a path of feminism and blue pill mentality that will eventually lead to societal collapse. That is if the economic collapse doesn’t come first but either way there is nothing that can be done to fix these issues you bring up as very high majority of the population is clueless or do not care about what is going on around them.

Be happy that you are one of the very few men left who can stand on his own and go his own way as most will never be able to do what you are today.

[Anonymous 3]

Sad but true as far as western civilization is concerned. Absolutely no brain activity just the body hasn’t quite stopped breathing yet.I reckon 20-50 years tops. If I was a younger man I would start studying the Koran & collecting rocks for the stoning of the feminazis

[Anonymous 2]

Don’t give a f*ck what attract women. I just try to ignore them and involve with them little and neutral as possible. I rather spend my energy and my attention on myself because if I don’t nobody else does.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Anonymous wrote:

Sad but true as far as western civilization is concerned. Absolutely no brain activity just the body hasn’t quite stopped breathing yet.I reckon 20-50 years tops. If I was a younger man I would start studying the Koran & collecting rocks for the stoning of the feminazis

Hmmm sounds like a pretty good idea to me. Having a Muslim friend should help me out in this direction. Ohhh ohh did I not mention about the two Mosques they are building right across my house? Allahu akbar! You guys should watch this!!

MGTOW AKBAR

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

Russky2 wrote:

Ohhh ohh did I not mention about the two Mosques they are building right across my house? Allahu akbar!

You must be joking.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Manspread Mansplainer wrote:

Russky2 wrote:

Ohhh ohh did I not mention about the two Mosques they are building right across my house? Allahu akbar!

You must be joking.

Lol why would I? Nah, there’s one almost finished where they cut down a s~~~ load of trees and destroyed a lot of habitat as there was a f~~~ing tree area. Then another one is going up soon as the current one is not big enough…

MGTOW AKBAR

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

Welcome to Canadastan. Hope you enjoy the call to prayer at 3AM.
Don’t be surprised when they petition to park on your street every Friday. Watch for the dead dogs and Sharia Patrols too..

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Manspread Mansplainer wrote:

Welcome to Canadastan. Hope you enjoy the call to prayer at 3AM.
Don’t be surprised when they petition to park on your street every Friday. Watch for the dead dogs and Sharia Patrols too..

Pfff lol the 3AM prayer will come knocking on your door in the near future too! And you are either with us or against us 😉

MGTOW AKBAR

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

They will be wiped out I’m surrounded by rednecks.
I will bury pigs around.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

MGTOW will have 0 effect.

We are too little, and not much men can be a MGTOW.

Only men with dignity and some brain, as I have been observing, how ever the human trash is reproducing at an alarming rate.

In the short game, nothing will come from MGTOW no change at all.

In 200 years only trash will be roaming the earth.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3784]

Carnage wrote:

MGTOW will have 0 effect.

We are too little, and not much men can be a MGTOW.

Only men with dignity and some brain, as I have been observing, how ever the human trash is reproducing at an alarming rate.

In the short game, nothing will come from MGTOW no change at all.

In 200 years only trash will be roaming the earth.

I give it less than 100…

[Anonymous 42]

Carnage wrote:

In 200 years only trash will be roaming the earth.

I thought they were roaming the earth now? Especially the halls of congress! I’m glad I have no children to be consumed by the beast!

F~~~ THIS WORLD TO THE HELL IT DESERVES!

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Russky2 wrote:

……… But there’s something f~~~ing wrong with Marriage, School and especially SCHOOL!!! I wanted to stop here to highlight this-School is a waste of f~~~ing time…………

……..All the female teachers there also never helped, nor did they teach anything of value. They are also abusive and use physical violence to control children.

……. So we go to school-university-work. All of this s~~~ is outdated and needs total reorganization including looking into women’s wages. By that I mean seeing if they are being overpaid………

About ten years ago, I made the mistake of switching from working in the Trades with Men to Working in an Academic/ Research setting.
Writing, Teaching, and making discoveries new to science was supposed to be a dream come true.
Using my mind instead of my back was supposed to be a Worthy Advancement.

Yes, I use to complain many times about the numerous “Blue Pill Slaves” who worked alongside me in the Trades. Now I miss them.
As a young Tradesman, I took it for granted and underestimated the value of working alongside other Heterosexual Men.

The most inept Tradesman who behaves like a Mangina is a thousand times better to work with compared to these so called “Professionals” who are mostly an endless parade of Evil Harpies and/ or Whores walking hand in hand with their Gay partners in crime.

In the past, especially as a Land Lord, Property Manager, and Tradesman, I thought Gays were outstanding tenants and good tradesmen. But, when I started doing White Collar work, it became more obvious that Gay Men were as evil as women.

Here is a link to a Post that attempts to discuss what Gay men are doing at Work:

/forums/topic/gays-are-untrustworthy-and-treacherous/

Commie Feminists have turned most good jobs, especially White Collar jobs, into hell on earth. Having to work with modern Womyn is too much of a burden and is Soul Destroying.
Consider the follow Post:

/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/

Young MGTOWS, it is not too late for you to make better choices than me and avoid jobs that force you to work alongside womyn.

For decades, I turned down opportunities for advancement as a Tradesman and most of my free time was used up pursuing Advanced Degrees/ Training to become a Scientist. Alas, I foolishly believed the whoopla that is promoted about Academic and “Professional” careers.

Now, I fully understand that these “Institutions” are designed to create Debt Slaves. They are the heart of the Hive and they are extremely hostile to Heterosexual Men. For Lying Whores and their Gay partners in crime, the Hive is an endless series of parties, fashion shows, and schadenfreude. Furthermore, White Collar jobs are soul destroying venomous snake pits for masculine Heterosexual Men.

It is sad to hear the denial of most of my European American colleagues, who are middle aged Heterosexual Men. These highly skilled and credentialed men are unable to find work as Professors anywhere in Western Civilization. Alas, most of these guys are unwilling to see that communist feminists are running these institutions. These guys foolishly believe that the Engineering and Science departments are C~~~ Free.

The savage Academic and “Professional” life for an individual Heterosexual Man these days is like being taken down by a bunch of hyenas.

Here are some YouTube talks by Mike Rowe that brings up the truth about jobs and real success. He suggests great opportunities for men in today’s economy.
These videos will also help to fight the foolish programming that is forced upon modern man:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Russky2 wrote:

women will always find simps and blue pilled ATM machines that will always satisfy their thirst for more greed.

SOME women still will.

But not all of them. Not even most of them, actually, because their hypergamy works against them.

Otherwise we wouldn’t be seeing all these cries of: “Where are all the good men?”

[ironheartParticipant 942]

MGTOW has always been here, since the beginning of humans walking the Earth. The only difference is that at this point in time you guys have collectively given a name to it. It will always be here, although it may be made a crime in the near future by the hordes of hateful.

I was MGTOW forty years ago, when femi-nazi clones became the fad in Toronto. It was a time I saw friends murdered at the hands of women, and nothing was done about it. I knew at that time that the next one hundred years would be exactly this – only worse. So far nothing much has proven me wrong.

The reason for that is because the horrible nature of women that formed back in the late 1970’s was sporadic. Men were solitary victims of it. No woman of the eighties and nineties gave two s~~~s about a man who was a victim then. Now in this time there is at least some recognition of the nature of it, and the causes. But women will not give up being assholes, and think men deserve every minute of it for being weak. That boys and girls – is hate – mostly of what they themselves know they have become. They cannot handle what they see in the mirror, so lash out at men. So be it.

The only difference back then was that I thought I was alone in the way I viewed reality, and did not feel there was a group voice. I have since lived many renditions of that life view, and now am stupidly on the fourth serious relationship, I can definitely say I had enough. I did my duty to society, and tried to be a good father to all the children I raised – only each time to have the mother turn on me like a rabid dog.

Enough of trying to make amends with the women of this world. Enough being the protector, the breadwinner, the voice of reason, the leader, or the father. If this relationship ends, I am done – period. It is a thin red line as it stands, and if I was not a loyal friend to her, we would be nothing but two angry people who refuse to even talk. I am the one with the patience and the fortitude to keep it glued together. That is close to the end. There is no way to reason with a person so intent on being hateful or to be the worse of what men normally would be. But that is the modern female.

There is little good in what women have become. Most of them are completely f~~~ed in the head in one form or another. Society feeds that practice and belief. They embrace it like a dam religion, and refuse to see how bad their practices have impacted the world of men. Most simply do not care. They have lost empathy, and only want to be bigger assholes than any man. I would even venture that society as we know has been destroyed by the nature of modern females. They are no longer women, but just a thin veneer of what they used to be.

Now there is a name, and way for all of us to communicate openly.

The name will force women to take ownership of what they caused, just like the term MRA. But few will. Only a few seek to understand out of genuine concern for the future of humanity. The rest of women are delusional and too mentally ill at this point to be saved. Those past child-bearing age will continue their insane protests and attacks on what they see as all things male. My generation, for what it tried to be, is but a failure in the eyes of history books.

As a man I still strive to make a difference in my community and to help those I know who need it. That is not being some stupid white knight. That is simply doing what a man was meant to do. Build it. Fix it. Run it. Take role of leadership when none others have the courage too.

At this point is is all I can give to the world to be remembered by. If some woman (or man) sees that as weakness or the wrong way – f~~~ them. I will die knowing what it is to be someone who did what was right. The rest can burn.

Happy 2018 guys.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[Russky2Participant 3086]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Russky2 wrote:

……… But there’s something f~~~ing wrong with Marriage, School and especially SCHOOL!!! I wanted to stop here to highlight this-School is a waste of f~~~ing time…………

……..All the female teachers there also never helped, nor did they teach anything of value. They are also abusive and use physical violence to control children.

……. So we go to school-university-work. All of this s~~~ is outdated and needs total reorganization including looking into women’s wages. By that I mean seeing if they are being overpaid………

About ten years ago, I made the mistake of switching from working in the Trades with Men to Working in an Academic/ Research setting.
Writing, Teaching, and making discoveries new to science was supposed to be a dream come true.
Using my mind instead of my back was supposed to be a Worthy Advancement.

Yes, I use to complain many times about the numerous “Blue Pill Slaves” who worked alongside me in the Trades. Now I miss them.
As a young Tradesman, I took it for granted and underestimated the value of working alongside other Heterosexual Men.

The most inept Tradesman who behaves like a Mangina is a thousand times better to work with compared to these so called “Professionals” who are mostly an endless parade of Evil Harpies and/ or Whores walking hand in hand with their Gay partners in crime.

In the past, especially as a Land Lord, Property Manager, and Tradesman, I thought Gays were outstanding tenants and good tradesmen. But, when I started doing White Collar work, it became more obvious that Gay Men were as evil as women.

Here is a link to a Post that attempts to discuss what Gay men are doing at Work:

/forums/topic/gays-are-untrustworthy-and-treacherous/

Commie Feminists have turned most good jobs, especially White Collar jobs, into hell on earth. Having to work with modern Womyn is too much of a burden and is Soul Destroying.
Consider the follow Post:

/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/

Young MGTOWS, it is not too late for you to make better choices than me and avoid jobs that force you to work alongside womyn.

For decades, I turned down opportunities for advancement as a Tradesman and most of my free time was used up pursuing Advanced Degrees/ Training to become a Scientist. Alas, I foolishly believed the whoopla that is promoted about Academic and “Professional” careers.

Now, I fully understand that these “Institutions” are designed to create Debt Slaves. They are the heart of the Hive and they are extremely hostile to Heterosexual Men. For Lying Whores and their Gay partners in crime, the Hive is an endless series of parties, fashion shows, and schadenfreude. Furthermore, White Collar jobs are soul destroying venomous snake pits for masculine Heterosexual Men.

It is sad to hear the denial of most of my European American colleagues, who are middle aged Heterosexual Men. These highly skilled and credentialed men are unable to find work as Professors anywhere in Western Civilization. Alas, most of these guys are unwilling to see that communist feminists are running these institutions. These guys foolishly believe that the Engineering and Science departments are C~~~ Free.

The savage Academic and “Professional” life for an individual Heterosexual Man these days is like being taken down by a bunch of hyenas.

Here are some YouTube talks by Mike Rowe that brings up the truth about jobs and real success. He suggests great opportunities for men in today’s economy.
These videos will also help to fight the foolish programming that is forced upon modern man:

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Holy s~~~….

After reading all of this, I have no doubt in my mind that I will be going into trades this spring.

I work at a factory, full of wasp c~~~s that sting and buzz all day long and do little to no work at all. My supervisor once just got up and left in the middle of a stressful and busy day….the people she was supposed to train,…well at least some of them were let go just because of that. Just because they have this client that is in urgent need to make the f~~~ing miracle happen. But we will know there’s no miracles.

My current wage is 17$ an hour. Previously I worked for 14.50 an hour at another c~~~ filled facility and it was even worse since the space was limited.

Prior to these two jobs I was working in security. Pretty much stress free, but there will always be this one prick who will want to ruin your experience even if you didn’t do anything wrong. I made about 12$ an hour working security. For the most part I;ve been c~~~ and stress free. However…

Even in security there’s c~~~s. There was this one custodian lady who would hit on me, and try to set me up in various ways. One time the f~~~ing ceiling was leaking and the water was running down the wall. I didn’t notice that because the wall was f~~~ing black and the water wasn’t yet on the floor. By the time I finished my patrol, the water pretty much flooded the floor. So the bitch saw that, complained about me not doing my job and almost got me fired. Good thing is I have extremely good reasoning skills, and put that bitch down right on her spot.

After that, the bitch would treat me very nice but I knew it was all fake like fakeup. She would try to cuck me into going out with her, while she was banging some high ranking individual from that place. Bitch thought I didn’t know nor did I see her with the guy lol. Also had a daughter from her previous marriage that she destroyed….

All in all there is almost no f~~~ing place a man can work without c~~~s. They will always try to find ways to frame us for ANYTHING!!!

But still though I’m done with all these jobs where c~~~s are majority. And all these jobs are f~~~ing as useless as useless you can get.

I feel much more like a slave making more money being stuck with c~~~s, than a lower paying job with an occasional c~~~ there.

MGTOW AKBAR

[BoneAshParticipant 109]

What do you think MGTOW will achieve in the near future?

I think it already achieved tremendous milestones. Thanks 1000 times whoever made this website and for people like Sandman who uploading thousands of MGTOW videos to youtube.

I was in the same boots when I was kid, poor, fat, unattractive computer geek so women stayed out of my life completely but now I’m ABSOLUTELY HAPPY about it.

Do you want to have a girlfriend question is now === “do you want to have cancer? a little aids maybe?” hey how about completely for free 😀

F hell no. It’s your life man, those who want to put their heads into the sand let them do so. Be happy and enjoy life.

Happy MGTOW new year!

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Russky2 wrote:

…I will be going into trades this spring.

Try to pick ones where there are no women.

Here is a link to a Post that you inspired me to write, R. Your feed back in that Post is appreciated:

https://mgtow.com/forums/topic/women-in-the-trades-blue-collar-jobs/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[SESQUI ano estParticipant 2535]

Carnage wrote:

MGTOW will have 0 effect.

We are too little, and not much men can be a MGTOW.

It will have minimal effect on society but may help a few (100) thousand individuals know they are living a life for themselves and that it is worth it and OK.

ironheart wrote:

I am the one with the patience and the fortitude to keep it glued together.

I found having the patience and fortitude to keep it glued together only prolonged my suffering.

Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.

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