MGTOW and Societal Disconnection "Unplugging"

[mrpropmechParticipant 216]

I have no idea how to word the title for this, but is this a normal feeling with MGTOW? For the past 4 years or so I have slowly wanted to just unplug from society. Just up and leave, almost live a hermit lifestyle so to speak. I’m not talking about going totally off grid but just moving away from all the bulls~~~. I’ve been looking into the tiny house movement and minimalism more. In fact over the past 2 years I have been minimizing all my bulls~~~ that I have accrued over the years. It’s been a long process believe me, getting rid of s~~~ I don’t need, it’s hard to part with things.

Obviously if we were all loaded with money in the bank this would be easy to do with a minimalist lifestyle as far as buying land goes and all the off grid stuff and so on. I’ve also been watching alot of videos on youtube on this subject with tiny houses and minimalism and by proxy of people just vagabonding it in vans and so on. It’s real eye opening seeing that it can be done and some out there have more of the gumption to do it than I do.

[WolfParticipant 890]

I can’t speak for others, but I share your feelings. Once I retire, I plan to move away from the city and all the bulls~~~ that goes along with it. I want a life that I live on my terms. The way cities govern nowadays, it’s not much different than the family courts towards men.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

I have similar sentiments. I’m most happy when alone, working on a project, or just relaxing and existing within my own mind.

Turn off the TV, the video games, and the facebook. Let there be Silence. After a while your thoughts will fill in the empty space and that is how you use 100% of your mind.

I’m sticking around 2 more years until my 30th birthday. I plan to get rid of anything I can’t fit into a backpack. I’m going to travel a bit and just rent for the rest of my life.

F~~~ possessions. I want to go have cool experiences.

Not my property... Not my problem

[mrpropmechParticipant 216]

NotMyProblem wrote:

I have similar sentiments. I’m most happy when alone, working on a project, or just relaxing and existing within my own mind.

Turn off the TV, the video games, and the facebook. Let there be Silence. After a while your thoughts will fill in the empty space and that is how you use 100% of your mind.

I’m sticking around 2 more years until my 30th birthday. I plan to get rid of anything I can’t fit into a backpack. I’m going to travel a bit and just rent for the rest of my life.

F~~~ possessions. I want to go have cool experiences.

Man I wish I was in Jack Reacher’s shoes, having enough money in the bank to f~~~ off for the rest of my life and just drift from place to place… Get on my motorcycle and just ride…

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

NotMyProblem wrote:

F~~~ possessions. I want to go have cool experiences.

Amen.

I love simplicity in all things… except for music. Also, it is hard to beat the peace and contentment I feel going for a solitary walk by the river or hiking through the woods.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

When I was chasing women and even when I was married, I was suckered into the big house and fancy cars. I think a lot of men would be happy in minimalist conditions. I really think men often go crazy with stuff in order to impress or please women.
I am moving into a tiny ocean condo, not to impress some bitch, but because I want to.
I think a lot of men, once becoming MGTOW, downsize. Hell, the bitch usually ends up with the big house anyway. Part of being MGTOW is to keep a low profile. You really don’t want to be attracting gold-diggers.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6418]

Almost unplugged … and even with an ultra-minimalist lifestyle; those very few items you do decide to purchase and own can be of good quality.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I feel the same as well. It dawned on me one day that buying expensive things essentially means I’m donating more to this f~~~ed up society. I just can’t see buying a big house or toys when all it means is I end up paying a ton more taxes each year, especially being stuck in a high tax state for at least a few more years…f~~~ that.

I think the ultimate victory in life now is to minimize my taxable possessions, and grow a nest egg large enough that I can comfortably live off interest, but not too big so I stay down in a reasonable tax bracket. Its not that I’d ever hit a point where I wouldn’t want more money…its just that I will derive great pleasure knowing I am contributing as little as possible to a society that seems to hate me just for being a successful male.

If I bought an average house and a nice sport car right now…that would up my tax bill by about 6000 a year. If I held those things for 40 years…that would be 240,000 worth of extra taxes…and for what? In after tax dollars it would take me 3 years to make that much money…is it really worth having to work 3 more years just to cover the taxes on those things, in addition to what the initial cost to buy is? If it cost another 300k to buy the house/car…that would take another 4-5 years of after tax dollars to purchase. The alternative is to just dump all that money into investments, retire 10+ years earlier, and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes less over the course of my life time. Society is simply over pricing itself, just like bulls~~~ divorce laws have over priced vaginas.

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

lol… I think a lot of MGTOW will share your sentiments. By our very natures, we reject social conventions just as we see the hypocrisy in false morality. We’re men, so instead of bitching, we ‘go our own way’. There is nothing crazy about your so called ‘pipe dream’. Perhaps its time to pool resources and start an MGTOW community.. women welcome as long as they subscribe to a ‘natural’ philosophy. 😛

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

I’m just completely done with it all. I have no desire to reengage with society, except on very specific and minimal terms. I’m rebuilding my life right now from being a complete and total sucker blue pill for decades, along with the financial collapse that goes along with that. I find that basically none of the “friends” I made over the past twenty-odd years have stuck around, and that acquaintances seem to be the norm nowadays. I don’t feel like wasting more time on women, and I also don’t feel like wasting time on “friendships” that aren’t.

NotMyProblem wrote:

I’m most happy when alone, working on a project, or just relaxing and existing within my own mind.

Turn off the TV, the video games, and the facebook. Let there be Silence. After a while your thoughts will fill in the empty space and that is how you use 100% of your mind.

Amen.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Bob Bashbosh wrote:

Perhaps its time to pool resources and start an MGTOW community

This is a really interesting idea, i haven’t given it much thought. What would the requirements be? I’m thinking something along the lines of common solar plant – enough to run a few basic appliances per man. Maybe ditto with clean drinking water?

Every man stakes out his 40 acres, gets the basics on electricity & clean water. Host a monthly BBQ if you want, not required, etc. Something like that?

[Just MikeParticipant 393]

I became a minimalist a couple of years before I identified as a MGHOW but the two go hand-in-hand nicely. If you think of minimalism as the physical side of things then MGTOW is a great way of simplifying the mental/emotional side (although I’ve found that owning less/being debt free has those benefits as well).

For a while now I’ve felt that life’s too busy (self-importantly so, just a bunch of egotistical c~~~s) and there’s too many rules about what people ‘ought’ to be doing in life; government policies/banks influencing advertising, consumerism and materialism and vice-versa, everywhere and everything you look at. F~~~ rushing around, working a job you may or may not dislike just so you can buy s~~~ you don’t need, or worse still working and buying stuff for some c~~~ who thinks she needs it and doesn’t appreciate it. Contributing to a system that doesn’t give a f~~~ about you and gives nothing back. All that s~~~ is designed to keep you under control, working X amount of hours a week and being too f~~~ing tired at the end of it to find an alternative, or even think about it. That’s the biggest hurdle: sticking your finger up at the status quo, but if you’re either a minimalist or a MGTOW you’ve pretty much already got the hang of it 😉

The other side is pretty swell. Money is piece of p~~~ to save if you decide to hold onto a job and make smart decisions about where to live and what (not) to buy. More free time than you can poke a stick at and the ability to go wherever, whenever (buy a van, set it up to camp in, use it). Zero stress and the sense that, for once in your life, you don’t need to buy another piece of s~~~ to feel happy or complete, that you may already be complete as a person, or that you at least have more time to find out who that is. If you want to do it my advice is to do it as soon as possible, ignore society and its expectations and judgements and start getting used to throwing things out, asking yourself what’s really important and looking for those alternatives. You can always go back to the other lifestyle if you want but you only have one lifetime to explore this sort of possibility and from experience, it’s definitely worth it. May have even saved my life.

Society: I refuse your stick and carrot. If you try to beat or shame me you'd better take me down first time. If I want smoke blown up my ass I'll buy a cigar and a length of hose.

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

MattNYC wrote:

This is a really interesting idea, i haven’t given it much thought. What would the requirements be? I’m thinking something along the lines of common solar plant – enough to run a few basic appliances per man. Maybe ditto with clean drinking water?

Every man stakes out his 40 acres, gets the basics on electricity & clean water. Host a monthly BBQ if you want, not required, etc. Something like that?

Nor have I to be honest Matt but I’m never flippant. I’ve long considered the advantages of a cohesive commune. There is a wealth of industrious creativity out there and with the right incentive, I really believe there is potential for something special…. it would require some forethought… we would have to achieve what no prior collective has achieved before… an incorruptible legislature, completely separate from common and statutory law. I think it’s possible though.. there ARE precedents in the Scottish isles…

[Bob BashboshParticipant 160]

lol.. it could be called manutopia.. or simply.. Utopia since we’d reject artificial social constructs.

[Anonymous 3]

Western society is so gynocratic, no matter where you turn.

So eventually facebook, TV, movies, and even mainstream games, if you’re truly unplugged, become boring and don’t do anything for you. You see it for what it is, sheer idiocy and noise.

I think it’s natural. And because 99% of society buys into it and acts the same way, you sort of understand there’s no point in wasting time trying to even fake that you think the same. So there is a natural movement to unplugging.

I think Western society will fall because Eastern/Muslim society isn’t that way. So they’ll unite and roll right over the West. Men like us are what build society, sustain it, give it power. And if we unplug out of disgust, the dregs left over are unable to do it.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I am a semi-minimalist. I’m one who enjoys the luxuries of civilization, so I live in a house (cheap, rural, large lot for dog) with washer, dryer, dishwasher, central air, electric lights, plumbing and a few things to sit on and sleep on.

For those more hardy than myself, let me suggest a cheap camper and migrating from campground, to Walmart parking lot, to deserted side road as whim and fancy take you. I have met people who do this. They’re people of all ages, from late teens to post-retirement, and of all income levels.

I think you could spend decades and not exhaust the campgrounds in state and national parks in the US and Canada. I hear Europe has good camping too.

Edit: A search of YouTube for “walmart parking lot camping” yields “About 4,530 results.” (!!)

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

I’ve lived on a drunk farm before with 50 men and we could do everything. We had a house crew, maintenance crew, kitchen crew, garden crew, barn crew, and yard crew. We raised our own livestock, grew our own vegetables, built additions to the complex, butchered meat and cooked, mowed the grass, kept the place spotless; we did it all. Out of 50 random men, many of those men have specialist skills, that they pass on to the next people to come into the facility. How’s it sound to eat a steak from a cow that your MGTOW friends raised and butchered, and eat some vegetables that they grew, then down it with some f~~~ing craft beer, bros?

[OgreParticipant 5863]

It’s my plan. 400 miles from anywhere with just my cabin, whatever form that takes. I will put 8 or 10 level concrete pads out on the 20 acres for people that want a place to stop for a while, donations only, just to sometimes have company. I could leave tomorrow with only my current vehicle (paid off) and my AR for security, but I wait because my youngest is four years from being an adult.

It doesn’t take much to make a man happy, and it can take many directions. Love, whatever that means didn’t work out. Instead I’ll just do whatever I want.

I totally understand your viewpoint @mrpropmech. Stealthy aka Bunker Mode has some great ideas for developing perpetual income, so you can have a path to making your dream your reality. Anything that pays you back month after month will work. I’m a pensioner in my 40s because I gave most of my good years to something that pays me back as long as I live. I can do it easily on half, if you catch my drift. It’s not time yet for me, but the youngest gets closer to leaving the nest every day.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

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