MGTOW and Homosexual Men

[cj023Participant 723]

What ever goes on in your home it’s YOUR business I don’t care it doesn’t effect me at all just don’t be a douche.

[Anonymous 3]

sidecar wrote:

phoenix wrote:

I was that guy, and I can guarantee you, it’s not as permanent or as high as you think.

But I’m talking about behavior, not volume.

Yes, men’s sex drives are less selective than women’s, but that doesn’t mean their sex drive is stronger. Men produce sperm throughout their lives. They have time. The opportunity cost of missing a chance to reproduce is not nearly as great for men as it is for women. Women have a limited number of eggs with a definite expiration date. Their biology can’t afford to let them pass on reproductive chances. Their inner monkey is telling them to f~~~ and f~~~ NOW!

Right, and that’s why I mentioned ovulation. A man can get a woman pregnant whenever, but a woman can only get pregnant while she is ovulating. What you described is her reproductive urge, not a sexual urge. I think you and Eric Lauder both are speaking of similar things but just aren’t really connecting. Also I can see both sides and that’s why I can agree with both of you in parts.

I don’t think there is all that much difference in these comments, it’s all a different angle on the same base truth.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

sidecar wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

Women are far less horny than men, at least half, probably even lesser horny.

Someone has really fallen for the victorian feminist propaganda.

The central tenet of feminism is the opposite: women have a sex drive at least comparable to men, there’s no such thing as a feminist saying that women have less sex drive than men.
A similar affirmation would be highly detrimental to women: just like old society (patriarchy) even feminism is based on women promising more sex to men, and men giving them things in exchange.

sidecar wrote:

Women are more sexually selective than men, true, but that is a completely different matter to their level of desire.

Being more selective would be impossible if they would have the same (or even more) level sexual desire of men.

sidecar wrote:

Don’t believe this? Compare the average number of sexual partners women have had to the average number men have had.

That’s like comparing the money that a man from Laos make and the money that a man from Sweden make then concluding that the man from Sweden works much more.
A woman who have 10 sexual partners in an year had the chance to have sex with AT LEAST 30-40 men during such year, very likely even more.
A man who have 9 sexual partners in an year had the chance to have sex with about 10 women during such year.

Let’s make a comparison by levelling the playfield:
SAME CHANCES
NO JUDGEMENT FROM SOCIETY, NOBODY KNOWS

MASTURBATION

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/insight-therapy/201009/the-masturbation-gap

There’s no such thing as a survey showing women masturbate at the same rate of men, even less likely a survey shwing that women masturbate more than men.

Then we can even compare the sexuality within gay couples and within lesbian couples: the gap is even larger in such case…

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[SunStormParticipant 1277]

I am concerned by the homosexual lobby’s close dalliance with paedophilia…..

Also Milo opened the lid on something nasty, gay parties with Hollywood names and small children….

Be gay if you want but don’t expect me to clap.

Keep it your business and don’t try to make it MGTOW business.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

A man can get a woman pregnant whenever, but a woman can only get pregnant while she is ovulating.

That’s a myth. Actually there’s about a two week window. Sperm can hang around for a week waiting for an egg to drop. After ovulation the egg can hang around for about as long waiting for sperm to show up. Her body knows this even if she, herself, does not.

What you described is her reproductive urge, not a sexual urge.

Same thing, especially in women.

Eric Lauder wrote:

The central tenet of feminism is the opposite: women have a sex drive at least comparable to men, there’s no such thing as a feminist saying that women have less sex drive than men.

You’ve got your history wrong there. You’re thinking of 1960s free love second wave (or third wave or whatever) hippie feminism. I specifically said victorian feminism which was the exact opposite.

Prior to the late 19th century, women were viewed as mindlessly lasciviously enslaved to their carnal desires, unlike men who were able to think on higher matters. The feminist victorian suffragettes put a f~~~load of work into replacing this simple observation with a lie, because they knew that so long as the true nature of women was recognized they would never get the vote. Seriously, look it up. The long con those old bitches played is fascinating.

Once the pill arrived, thereby eliminating the main risk of sex for women, the old victorian lie was no longer needed, so feminists changed their tune to “sexual liberation”, while blaming the victorian feminist lie on men of course.

There’s no such thing as a survey showing women masturbate at the same rate of men, even less likely a survey shwing that women masturbate more than men.

Which only means that women lie about it more.

Compare the number of sex toys that are sold to women to the number that are sold to men. Do you really think they sell more fleshlights than dildos?

I have a lot of sisters. I grew up with most of them. You simply cannot tell me women are less horny than men, nor will I ever believe any study telling me they masturbate less, because I know the truth. And most of them were pregnant at 14, so if they weren’t masturbating it was only because they were out f~~~ing.

And once again I am reminded at how happy I was to get the f~~~ out of there.

[TomdickharryParticipant 6]

sidecar wrote:

The only reasons for heterosexual homophobia that I can come up with might be that the homophobic men are actually closeted themselves and self loathing,

This has been my experience. I have dealt with petty epithets. These guys came out years later. Actual straight men simply don’t care. I used to work at a gay bar that had many straights guys coming in from a sound studio. They just wanted to come in for a drink and relax – the end. If a gay guy nags a straight guy then him getting annoyed is understandable.

sidecar wrote:

they probably fall into the homosexual majority who prefers dignity to “pride”.

As someone who once marched in these ridiculous parades as a young man, these parades are silly. Once was enough. My husband and I are not embarrassed being gay, but are embarrassed by the “gay community”. Whatever positive purpose it served (if any) is long since outlived.

sidecar wrote:

Of course this is all speculation on my part. As a heterosexual man who doesn’t do relationships I’m no more qualified to expound on homosexual relationships than an ant is qualified to discuss Bengali politics. I’m just voicing my suspicions, observations, and what makes sense to me.

I hear you. I don’t believe in any PC crap or speech curbing, so whatever your thoughts are I’m glad to read them (as I am sure others are). I do believe there are innate fundamental differences between men and women. Two men in a relationship is different than two women, or a man and a woman in the way they interact. Gay men are still men, and so they can interact in a way that would seem odd for a man to interact with a woman (I know that sounds vague – just trying to keep my response short).

As for MGTOW, any honest gay man has to admit to himself at some point that women see gay men as another set of tools. Most women don’t know I am gay until it comes up, and then they are much nicer to me. Nevertheless, aside from the “girls’ day” remark, women will also say in talking about their relationships, “Men!…Right?!”, but I am a man. How dumb do you have to be to say something like that to me?

[TomdickharryParticipant 6]

bomwa wrote:

What do you think Tom of Finland thought of the effeminate gay stereotype?

Tom of Finland is the direct response to the effeminate gay male.

[Anonymous 12]

Even though the “red pill rage” has a lot of its source in women, i believe that MGTOW really starts and kicks off after the Red pill rage has gone.

And i would venture a guess that homosexual relationships come with “drama” of some sort as well.

So any Man who does not comply with demands of his cultural circle, be that a homo or hetero Circle has a solid piece of MGHOW inside him.

He stands up and walks his path, no matter the shaming and dangers inherent to it.
He is a real man.

And therefor he walks beside me, and i am glad to have him here.

Welcome.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

There’s an enormous difference between gay and bisexual men: bisexual men have to deal with women bs, while gay men don’t have to deal with such things.
Sure, gay men are used as emotional tampons by women but that’s nothing compared to the issues of both heterosexual and bisexual men.
A bisexual man is much more likely to marry a woman than a man, for two main reasons:
First, children.
Second, society encourages traditional marriage over gay marriage.

Jackinov wrote:

Gays are what women truly fear most, because it’s literally the ultimate act of disinterest. Women do this thing where they talk sweetly in your face but rip you apart behind your back. That, I suspect, is why women are such good “friends” with gay men. They don’t really like them, but just want to either act like ALL men just want to dote over them, straight or not, or maybe it’s just a sort of control thing in general, using you as a emotional tampon or whatever else. Keeping you at her service, in a way.

Women could have and sometimes really have it worse than gays: a man who screws a transwoman who is taller, with longer legs and have bigger breasts than almost every woman – most (almost all) women live it as the epitome of unfairness, they think they’re being mocked and scammed and they particularly freak out at the idea that the transwoman have a dick. In such case you can see the female entitlement fully deployed.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

sidecar wrote:

I have a lot of sisters. I grew up with most of them. You simply cannot tell me women are less horny than men, nor will I ever believe any study telling me they masturbate less, because I know the truth. And most of them were pregnant at 14, so if they weren’t masturbating it was only because they were out f~~~ing.

Agreeded
Woman use sex to manipulate men. They have to act like they are doing you a favor and that means they have to pretend they can take it or leave it. So while they are not giving you sex, to get something from you, they are charging their batteries behind your back. Woman are very horny. It’s only when the bluepill stops all the pussy begging that he starts getting pussy.

She wants the c~~~ and when you divorce the c~~~ from the utility, she still wants the c~~~. You’re just no longer being a simp and giving her the house with it.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

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