Mens rights are a lost cause

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

The battle is lost. Best make the most of a society with men being the new underclass. Go your own way.

The campus rape war is over, and the boys have lost because they never bothered to fight back
Despite all the support from nationally renowned legal scholars, despite an incredible backlash last year, the sexual grievance machine is in high gear, running roughshod over the rights of our sons. There’s no slowing it, despite the efforts of so many. I asked myself how this can be, and my conclusion is going to anger some people.

The war on campus rape may be the first witch-hunt in history where the members of the group under attack don’t care that they are in the cross-hairs of a lunatic fringe. Since they won’t fight back, it’s hopeless to think the tide can be rolled back without them.

http://www.cotwa.info/2015/06/the-campus-rape-war-is-over-and-boys.html

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Men can’t fight back because women would just call the police on them and have them arrested. Look at what happened to Laura Southern.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Anonymous 12]

Until more men cast off the shackles of “what being a man” is all about they won’t fight back. Fighting back is considered sissy and unmanly, much better to just bend over and take it like a real man would.

[Anonymous 3]

The oppressed class is NEVER able to fight back, that’s why they’re oppressed. Same bulls~~~ all throughout history. The privileged classes always want to paint themselves as victims, but they write the laws and have the entire system with all of its power and resources on their side.

In fact, in truth, you NEVER hear the complains of the oppressed classes, because they are always silenced. If you hear a lot of victimhood, just look at who is writing the laws and how favorable they are, that’s all you need to know.

Men lost and it’s hopeless. And telling us to fight is obviously disingenuous. We’ve fought for decades, and we were crushed badly. Women were united, and most men are white knights that joined them. You can’t save a group that will fight against you for trying. So now we are MGTOW, and suddenly now women demand we fix the mess they created, like we even could.

I used to think Ghandi was a fool. But now more and more as I’ve grown older and wiser, I understand just how ingenious that man was, and how truly amazing he was. Men need to read and understand how other great men have lived in the past, as these cycles always repeat. And Ghandi is one of the greatest men in world history. For most of us, Ghandi is a lot better of an example to follow than Alexander the Great or Julius Caesar and the like, as we are not kings and emperors and never would be. Instead we are the oppressed classes, so men like Ghandi, MalcolmX, Martin Luther King Jr., they really are the examples we need to follow. In fact I think it would be a great idea if we could brainstorm some other men that could be similar. I was going to list George Washington but I’m not entirely sure if he follows that oppressed group, but I’m certain we can figure out more, and then by reading their biographies it would be an excellent tool for us to really advance our ideas more.

[MyselfParticipant 353]

Universities are an ancient institution. You can obtain an equivalent if not superior education using online resources. Men will find an alternative. We always have and always will.

 

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

the members of the group under attack don’t care that they are in the cross-hairs of a lunatic fringe.

This time, though, the lunatic fringe depends utterly on the material support of the group they are attacking. They are literally biting the hand that feeds them. I don’t see a lot of women’s studies majors growing crops or drilling oil, do you?

So men don’t need to fight back. All they need do is walk away and leave the lunatic fringe to starve itself out.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

You see all of this is meaningless if all men stop pursuing women and ways to impress them.A man needs so little to be happy, that if he stops trying to impress women almost all of the money he has , he has no idea how to spend.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Here’s an online university that is accredited. The fees are very low. They only offer Business Admin and Computer Science degrees.

http://uopeople.edu/groups/programs

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I used to think we could fight back …. but you can’t fight insane zombies.

You can’t know what going on in their heads for one moment to the next …. so one can’t predict how to stop them.

So the best plan is withdraw and let them at each other.

Our job as men …. is planning and rebuliding the new world post fembots.

[Anonymous 1]

Why fight back on a war that the only outcome is you losing no matter what you do? Specially when to “win”, you only need to walk away?

[chirParticipant]

Bring back more Men’s only colleges.  College’s devoted to STEM.  Women banned from campuses.

I mean after all men can’t control themselves around women.  Its better that we separate them for the women’s sake.

A men only college would protect the women from rambunctious rape crazy men.

I went to a boys only military academy for grade and high school.   When my class graduated every student passed the regents and sat tests in the upper 5%.  Compared to public schools we blew the s~~~ out of the “bell curve”.  Also taught us discipline and respect for ourselves.  No pussy flaunting around to distract us.  We buckled down and shoveled the f~~~ing gravel and got to work.

So why are there not more than 4 mens colleges?  Because 57% of college entrants are women.  Can’t have a STEM only college.  Gotta have all those touchy social programs and women’s studies.   Gotta spend all the time talking the feels.

Meanwhile the country goes down the f~~~ing drain.  But we all have the feels and social programs.

 

 

 

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I know it sounds like I’m a traitor or mangina, but I like to keep current with the news. From now on I will only read feminist news outlets like Salon and Jezebel because they are the outlets of the true controllers of public discourse.

I can’t bring myself to read the smug insulting New York Times.

Ignoring feminist eMags has left me out of the loop on the current and future politics of our country. Up to now I read men’s websites which are now completely impotent.

Women are in control now for better or worse. Of course when things go badly they will blame men like they do with Obama.

According to the media the only thing wrong with Obama and Hillary are Fox News.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[davParticipant 422]

MGTOW. The only winning move is not to play.

[Helen be DamnedParticipant 480]

Even then you can lose, women don’t have to know you to hurt you, you could be some guy that they select at random. Statistics show that’s less likely, but still. A lot of you guys aren’t currently on the hunting ground like I currently am, so you are all safer. I think if I went in to try and disprove them out of the gate, they would break my case with simple “preemptive guilt” arguments. I would need a legitimate accusation of someone to really get any defense across.

While it is again being discussed, I want to mention that I saw some bulls~~~ rape culture signs at the university I am attending, and it was all I could do not to tear them all down. They put one every 5 feet, it was beyond f~~~ing ridiculous. I was super confused by the f~~~ing bald eagles on their signs too, I think it might have been some native American group hosting the bulls~~~, which makes me sad.

"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Men’s rights activists are unfortunately just feeding the feminists’ victim complex. “He contradicts me! See? Misogyny is still alive in our patriarchal society!”
The more you prove them wrong, the more they feel justified.
Just play dumb and let them shoot themselves in the foot.
When there will be enough mgtow’s, then maybe they will start thinking for a bit.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Well, how are men supposed to “fight back”?  I don’t see anyone proposing sane strategies or knowing what the end conditions are.  What I see is a “belling the cat” problem, where someone rants, without a clue.

Also, as myself going my own way, how do I know the end conditions they seek benefit me?  This appealing to a group, doesn’t mean it is meant for me, even if I share the attributes of that group.

One way a man can “fight back”, and it can be done without needing the world to change, or getting fellow  “brothers in arms”, is to know what he wants, and work on a prolonged set of screening in the form of dating, and looking for signs of there being problems, and checking this out thoroughly before getting into bed with a woman.  And no way, and no how, EVER bring alcohol in the mix.  Be sober, and expect her to be sober.  You also have to make damn sure she isn’t going to get any regret doing the act, because the regret later can become a charge of rape.  Be alert, be sober, and be serious about this, because of the consequences.

Or, one can just go MGTOW, work on yourself, and stop worrying about all this.  Chance of rape charges going full MGTOW?  How about close to zero?  Life needs to be more than just avoiding rape charges, which going MGTOW also provides.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Men’s Rights are a bad joke. Organizations created by men raised by women into thinking great things can be accomplished by asking others to do it for you.

chir wrote:

Bring back more Men’s only colleges. College’s devoted to STEM. Women banned from campuses. I mean after all men can’t control themselves around women.  

If you truly want to “fight back.” Its thinking like this where you use peoples words and actions against them. It’s action or inaction (which in itself is an action of nothing). Words accomplish nothing at this point.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Durden wrote:

If you truly want to “fight back.” Its thinking like this where you use peoples words and actions against them. It’s action or inaction (which in itself is an action of nothing). Words accomplish nothing at this point.

Wise words. Durden gets it.

It doesn’t even take much effort, because people these days are so damn flakey, vague and hypocritical, all you have to do is hold a mirror up to them and it will defeat them. I have so many examples of this – just in the last few days alone. Most people take for granted that you will take their words at face value, so if you hold them to it and expect them to make good, they eventually f~~~ themselves.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RennieParticipant]

chir wrote:

Bring back more Men’s only colleges. College’s devoted to STEM. Women banned from campuses. I mean after all men can’t control themselves around women. Its better that we separate them for the women’s sake. A men only college would protect the women from rambunctious rape crazy men. I went to a boys only military academy for grade and high school. When my class graduated every student passed the regents and sat tests in the upper 5%. Compared to public schools we blew the s~~~ out of the “bell curve”. Also taught us discipline and respect for ourselves. No pussy flaunting around to distract us. We buckled down and shoveled the f~~~ing gravel and got to work. So why are there not more than 4 mens colleges? Because 57% of college entrants are women. Can’t have a STEM only college. Gotta have all those touchy social programs and women’s studies. Gotta spend all the time talking the feels. Meanwhile the country goes down the f~~~ing drain. But we all have the feels and social programs.

I agree and yeah girls in the same school as guys will just result in the girls spending alot of time distracting them. I remember in high school hearing stories about the catholic school girls flashing their pussies to guys in the class… and one girl actually became indignant with me when I brushed her off for being a potential distraction. Another was throwing erasers at me in summer school and making a nuisance of herself, several of the guys were afraid of her and her aggressive behavior and avoided her outside the class as did I.

I know I would have benefited from a boys only school. Maybe the girls only schools would of created a decent partner too.

[Anonymous 11]

Durden wrote:

Organizations created by men raised by women into thinking great things can be accomplished by asking others to do it for you.

Exactly, men do things for themselves. Depending on others is a recipe for failure.

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