Men Who Are Invisible To Women – Basic MGTOW wisdom!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Men Who Are Invisible To Women (#IBMOR)

By “BlackRam313” on YouTube

37 minutes of wisdom every boy/man on this planet should take notice of.

I can testify to everything he says even if we live on opposite sides of the planet.

And what applies to Black women is the exact same that can be said about the “latest versions” of German women “C u n t 3.0”

BlackRam313 describes my experiences “To the PIP”, as a trader would say.

To our young lurkers: 37 minutes of this can save you a lot of grief and worries in your adolescence.

It brings total closure why women only date you if you are a low-end scumbag… (setting off their “tingles” and mother instinct)

…or if you belong to the other extreme:

…A super rich tall and handsome man with a huge house and an expensive car…

Normal hard working and honest men are invisible to women.

C~~~s only “crawl back to you” after their looks have faded and they see that “the knight in shining armor” with a golden credit card will not come…

Then you are only 2nd best to her, and she will treat you like that all the time.

Only to leave YOU, the “honest normal man” when “something better” suddenly comes along unexpectedly…

And it is worth keeping in mind that your character or personality is of total non-importance to women. They choose a fake “pretended” character over an honest man with “real world problems” every time.

My advice to you: Focus on you and your education.

Don’t “try hard” to get out of “the Invisble Zone”!

Women only cost money, create problems and are a dead end to your life and career.

Virgin at 25?

Be proud of it!

Keep UNC~~~ED and live your life to the fullest!

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Her Intense love For The Thug #IBMOR

One more MGTOW school lesson. 56 non-boring minutes. And the YT comments are gold!

(No picture, more like an audio podcast)

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

See, this doesn’t make sense to me
I’m 6,4 and net worth of 2m. Workout 24/7, have most of my hair at 52, used to model back when I thought it would get me laid. Nothing. Zero,zip nada. Only hit on by gays or delusional land whales. I hear what he’s saying but don’t get it in my own life. I mean I’m not trying to brag but I’ve done some horrendous s~~~ in my life. For the pinnacle of my racing career, I ran two seasons of Toyota Atlantic series. Absof~~~inglutely zero interest from women. It’s almost as if they hated me. When I would try to get a girl, they acted as if I was the lowest thing out there. Can one be that invisible with that much accomplishment? Are you saying if I wanted to get the girls, I had to be the asshole/loser that I never wanted to be? Maybe I’m still in the middle of red pill rage, but put them all on leashes and treat them as the bitch dogs that they are. Ya know, the more that I listen to Tom Leykis, the more he makes sense. I never wanted to believe what was so obvious. I truly wish that I knew about him way back when. It all is so bitterly disappointing. I truly do empathize with other men now.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

I’m 6,4 and net worth of 2m. Workout 24/7, have most of my hair at 52, used to model back when I thought it would get me laid. Nothing. Zero,zip nada. Only hit on by gays or delusional land whales. I hear what he’s saying but don’t get it in my own life. I mean I’m not trying to brag but I’ve done some horrendous s~~~ in my life. For the pinnacle of my racing career, I ran two seasons of Toyota Atlantic series. Absof~~~inglutely zero interest from women. It’s almost as if they hated me.

@VCT. I was never “invisible to women” but I experience(d) exactly what you’re talking about – and it’s not personal. I have even said it before here too… “If there was no such thing as mirror, going strictly by the way women seem to react to me, I would think I looked like SHREK”.

Then one day (about two years) I was out for a walk, and a dog was approaching me very slowly. I didn’t change my trajectory, and came right up and sat at my feet. I bent down and gently pet him thinking it was very sweet.

His female owner was about 30 paces behind him, and she called out “Oh oh!”…. and I looked up wondering what she could mean. She said “he usually doesn’t respond well to tall, intimidating men”.

Well, f~~~ me. I finally got the explanation.

There is nothing “scary” or threatening about the way I look or appear. I don’t even have a single body piercing or tattoo and I smile, say “good morning” first, and am friendly more often than I should be.

But now I know. It’s not personal. Women are just “intimidated”. It also explains why I will step out of an elevator and a girl waiting will step aside, head down, and say “sorry” for no reason. I didn’t ever think of myself that way, but I guess women do, and now NOTHING about a “hateful” expression from them bothers me.

It’s not a problem.

I would strongly remind any man who thinks these perceived “advantages” make any kind of difference. They don’t. Self conscious about being shorter? Bald? or Broke? It doesn’t f~~~ing matter.

Even when women want and like you… they behave like they “hate” you.

THE MORAL OF THE STORY: Never use what a woman thinks, says or does as a reliable unit of measure of your self worth or even your SMV. Her rejection is as meaningless as her approval.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Men Who Are Invisible To Women – Basic MGTOW wisdom!

I don’t mind ditching emotional contact with women, they suck at it anyway! Games, bulls~~~, more games, more bulls~~~, then the hidden lies that surface as time drags on, there you are in another pit of misery? No way, my life wasn’t meant to live a lie!

That s~~~ got old fast! real fast! Like a light switch fast! CLICK!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

When I would try to get a girl, they acted as if I was the lowest thing out there. Can one be that invisible with that much accomplishment? Are you saying if I wanted to get the girls, I had to be the asshole/loser that I never wanted to be?

Biggest turnoff to women:

– Being accomplished and they don’t a chance to ruin it.
– Other women looking at you because you are “famous” and won’t take their s~~~ for long.
– People that approach you give YOU all of the attention and none to her.
– You are smart and that doesn’t fit the mental conception these women have about men. We are supposed to be dumb and easily manipulated by the “superior women”.

And they know they could get you but could never KEEP YOU and that’s why they step on you. And talk s~~~ about you, so you won’t get another woman from that hive.

She will do what a borderline does: Degrade you…

Woman like unaccomplished drug lords who don’t have to work for their money.

If you had won the lottery and appeared “on the scene” with a big car, golden chains and expensive watches… Then they’d be all over you.

And secondly: Women hate it when “you make it” with something they find truly disgusting.

Racing is the best way to stay unc~~~ed.

They hated all about electronics and car mechanics and so I never found common ground with those “superior” creatures.

And they hated racing… Using every bit of asphalt as a race track – when no other drivers are in sight – would not get me any sympathy with the c~~~s either. Racing is an act of civil disobedience and woman can’t control what you do. That is something they can’t cope with.

And women hate real “superiority” of a man… Then they call you “arrogant”…

When they berate you on your way of driving and you show them your 24 year accident-free insurance record… They hate it if you are simply “good” at what you do and they can’t find anything to criticize you with and make you feel miserable.

More on female nature, aka “The Borderline Syndrome”

Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) – Dangerous Personalities by Joe Navarro

One more thing: Really tall and strong men also fall through the cracks in women’s sympathy… They are suddenly afraid of you.

I am 6 foot 3 and I always noticed the change in respect women suddenly had when I got up and stood in front of them.

Female superiority? Never LOL-ed so hard!

Then, they don’t “love” you, they respect you… And they are afraid of lying to you… They will be uncomfortable around you…

No chance of getting one of these cowards to bed.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 3]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

See, this doesn’t make sense to me
I’m 6,4 and net worth of 2m. Workout 24/7, have most of my hair at 52, used to model back when I thought it would get me laid. Nothing. Zero,zip nada. Only hit on by gays or delusional land whales. I hear what he’s saying but don’t get it in my own life. I mean I’m not trying to brag but I’ve done some horrendous s~~~ in my life. For the pinnacle of my racing career, I ran two seasons of Toyota Atlantic series. Absof~~~inglutely zero interest from women. It’s almost as if they hated me. When I would try to get a girl, they acted as if I was the lowest thing out there. Can one be that invisible with that much accomplishment? Are you saying if I wanted to get the girls, I had to be the asshole/loser that I never wanted to be? Maybe I’m still in the middle of red pill rage, but put them all on leashes and treat them as the bitch dogs that they are. Ya know, the more that I listen to Tom Leykis, the more he makes sense. I never wanted to believe what was so obvious. I truly wish that I knew about him way back when. It all is so bitterly disappointing. I truly do empathize with other men now.

My friends are mostly around your height, 6’2+. Really strange how that is, but it just wound up that way.

They’d tell me the same things you’re writing now. The truth is women are intimidated by tall men and want average height or even shorter men. They do like a man to be strong, but for whatever reason tall scares them. I honestly think they actually prefer to be taller than the man they’re with in heels especially, albeit they do prefer he have a wide shoulder and strong arms.

But…who cares what women want? And why bother with it? They say they want one thing and then want another. But the thing they say they want they act scared of, and they repel what they really want with their biting remarks. The only men that actually wind up with women most of the time are the loser pussy beggars, who have no self respect and don’t care that women insult them constantly, as long as they can have the chance at sticking their dicks inside a woman, no matter how nasty she is either personality wise or physically.

I am an average height man. In my teens and twenties women did hit on me constantly, and I was praised by men and women alike as I’d walk around town. However my hair is thinning (has been for awhile) and there’s a lot of gray hair too. My body isn’t what it was then either. This is all natural stuff, it doesn’t bother me. It did bother me for a little while, as I had grown accustomed to the attention and smiling, but I can honestly say 95% of the time it never led to anything anyway.

As I wrote above women tend to prefer losers. You’re not a loser, and neither was I, neither is any true MGTOW on here, and most of us are (only reason I don’t say everyone is we do have tuna and blue pill posers here sometimes). Count yourself lucky, as I do too, that you never got stuck with one of them for a marriage.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Keymaster wrote:

“Oh oh!”…. and I looked up wondering what she could mean. She said “he usually doesn’t respond well to tall, intimidating men”.

OHHHHHHHH, You’re so big…

How often did I hear that…?!

And I tend to be not only tall but huge as well.

My job gave me a lot of training and the toxic fumes in my shop gave me dioxin depositing fat tissue. But even before that, I was always big. Needing adult clothes at age 9.

Even most minor land whales are small girls next to me.

And I sometimes finish them off with telling them that King-Kong was part of my ancestry. (Trying to turn negative sentiment into humor, salesman tactic)

Or I tell gold diggers (not customers) that “the rest of me” is the same size… But I still have hypnotism as the only way to get them to bed.

If I wanted, I would have a red dick all day…

But it was my knowledge of women and how undesirable they REALLY are that kept me out of the game.

I made fun of them to get them off of me.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

If I had a nickel for every time a woman said I was intimidating, unapproachable, mean looking,stuck up,arrogant I would be wealthy without all the work. It doesn’t matter anymore but I just wish I knew then what I know now. My life would have been more content. I do feel blessed to have the council of so many brothers that understand. Now my money seems pointless. I never really wanted it anyway. It really is an appropriate term for me… The invisible man.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

It really is an appropriate term for me… The invisible man.

No you are not invisible.

You and I , we both are TOO VISIBLE. And that’s what makes us “controversial” persons.

How often did I hear that I was “controversial” out of women’s and mangina’s mouths? More often then I heard some Beatles’ songs…

Women are hive minded creatures, they seek approval among their social circle for EVERYTHING they do or decide on.

And who wants to be with a controversial person and risk losing all of their (jealous loser) friends?

Nobody!

And they insult you as some kind of self-comforting for letting you go.

Then, they’ll say:

“Oh he had some money but I am not buy-able. I don’t go with an asshole only because of his money”…

…And this will come from the worst gold digger’s mouth in the entire village.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

I wish you guys were my friends when I was growing up. Some days I still feel like a pimply 15 year old.

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

But this thread is actually about hypergamy: The fact that over 80 percent of normal men are completely ignored by women.

And that is because media and TV has turned ALL OF THEM into gold diggers.

Women don’t settle for the masses of normal men anymore… They want what Hollywood told them “they deserve”…

And when these normal “nothing special” women suddenly stand in front of what they were told to “deserve” they get scared.
And that is the phenomenon we talked about in the posts above.

Women “can’t find no man” because they want the best even if they are not even compatible with the top men.

It is like telling a rookie driver that he must have a 1000 horsepower car and should not settle for less. And society laughs at him if he has anything below 1000 HP…

And then he get to ride such a vehicle, plays with the gas without “feeling”, leaves the road, slams into a tree and says “s~~~ty car”… This driver has not learned to handle such a vicious vehicle.

I had that over and over again:

Gold diggers with the mindset and speech code “live from the gutter” would complain that they can’t talk to me. And they insult such a men, without thinking that “accomplished” men can be very sensitive and unforgiving when some loser puts down what he as created in life. Women treat you like a loser, because they only learned to handle losers. Feminism has made them that way.

Even as a 5 year old kid, women would treat me like a crazy fool child, whereas bankers and CEO’s would like me because of the plain and structured way they could talk to me. (The husbands of my mother’s hair dressing customers would take me for walks, to get the “retarded” boy away from their nagging wives)

Like I always say: It’s easier to run a multinational business than to talk to a woman and make her “like you”.

I have to pretend to be a child to get a conversation going. That is work!

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[ViciouscunningtreacherousParticipant 823]

Yeah! Constantly dumbing down to make others/women feel comfortable. I’d rather dig my colon out with a butter knife. Perhaps we should look at being invisible as an advantage to capitalize off of? After all, the greatest advantage the devil has is when people don’t believe he exists…

For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Viciouscunningtreacherous wrote:

I wish you guys were my friends when I was growing up. Some days I still feel like a pimply 15 year old.

How often do I still get called a 5 year old?

Women talk down to me and I keep making fun of them by giving them approval.

“Yes, you are right, I am 5 years old.”
“Did you know it took Papa Smurf 250 years to become wise?”
“Then I still have some time left to enjoy my childhood”

Women call that “emotionally unavailable”.

No “Mommy 2.0 slave drive interface found”…

Woman can’t control you and make you feel guilty like their disobedient son.

Fact: You have reached you professional goals because you went at it like a playing child wanting to build the biggest LEGO house ever seen and you would get mad at everyone and everything that would keep you from it.

We don’t have time for drama. Woman need drama like a fish needs water. By solving minor problems “the easy way” to clear the way – and to get back to work we spoil the fun for women.

We are boring and “emotionally unavailable” because we follow our dreams and don’t waste time on female drama.

In contrast to us, women only care about marginalia.

Her housework is more important than you winning your next race.

Woman don’t respect where the money they spend is coming from.

Watch this: Women are narcissistic creatures…

I just reworded it a little: “They wake you up in the middle of the night – depriving you of sleep – not caring if you have a race on the next day – it’s all about themselves…”

You would not have become successful and 2m worth with a woman around you… And I would be dead by now…

NARCISSISM – DANGEROUS PERSONALITIES BY JOE NAVARRO

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

I really hoped that it was a thread about to proper do stealthing, but it’s the opposite, a thread about lack of visibility.

If a man want more visibility with women then I suggest to just paint his hair with fluorescent color, women are going to notice him for sure.

There’s even for the beard

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

This one has 100 k views…

There are many men out there who are looking for answers.

But many of the reasons why most “good men” are invisible to women can be found in their toxic nature:

Signs you are a victim of emotional and verbal abused by toxic women or potential narcissist.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Anonymous wrote:

The truth is women are intimidated by tall men and want average height or even shorter men.

And yet on apps like Tinder, women often left swipe guys automatically if they’re not at least 6 foot.

STRANGE…

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Eric Lauder wrote:

I really hoped that it was a thread about to proper do stealthing, but it’s the opposite, a thread about lack of visibility.

If a man want more visibility with women then I suggest to just paint his hair with fluorescent color, women are going to notice him for sure.

There’s even for the beard

Careful… Even flies are attracted to s~~~.

[Anonymous 3]

Cataphract wrote:

phoenix wrote:

The truth is women are intimidated by tall men and want average height or even shorter men.

And yet on apps like Tinder, women often left swipe guys automatically if they’re not at least 6 foot.

STRANGE…

They then flake on the guy if he’s actually 6’+ in real life. For women, 5’10 is 6’4. Even a 5’6 guy counts as 6′.

[Anonymous 1]

Hehe, its so true. Black Men have an inside track into this phenomena too. I can tell you, they are ahead of the curve by a few decades at least. When I was 13 I started hanging around some thugs. One of them was pimping some older girls. I learned a lot from those guys. I never believed it at the time though. I always thought they were pulling my leg. Those thugs got so much pussy it was mind blowing. I used to be jealous about it at that age too. Those guys were dumb ass thugs, who smoked crack…and the Pussy just opened up for them. I’m sure those nasty hood rats are using some Beta now. I can’t imagine being a blue pill beta, pussy begger. Begging for some used up 1000 c~~~ count, hood rat, to give them a little. No THANKS! I’ll keep my money, my time, and my sanity.

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