Members feedback requested on Female Aggression

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

We are not specimens in your research project.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Nice article Tim. I read it through. It reminded me of why this site was a major blessing in the lives of men less than a year ago. Obviously, things are tough right now. Be well.

NCFM Member Tim Patten, “The Lonely Single Men of MGTOW”

I must have forgotten about the National Coalition for Men.

I’m focused on the macro timeline. Men have no Own-Group-Preference so we can’t beat this game democratically. The toothpaste is out of the tube, it can’t go back.
We can’t win the votes even if we demonstrably correlate failing fertility rate with GDP.

We’re racing into 22nd century technology, but our brains are running on 2 million year old software. This is an untenable contradiction. The trouble, between men and women, is snowballing every year. It’s going to snowball right off a cliff. There’s no way to melt it or stop it from getting worse.

They can tax men and shame men all they want. We’ll endure it but the point is, taxing bachelors and shaming men is not going to fix the fertility rate or save GDP. It’s coming. In super slow motion like a Hurricane 2 weeks away. Except that this particular showdown is about 25 years away.

Your nieces and nephews in 1st world countries who are 4-5 years old. They may possibly be, some of the last general populace people born from natural wombs, into family unit households. The typical American household blueprint will be as sparse and funny as Amish people are to us today. Sure, there will still be regular births, out in the middle of nowhere…or on rich people’s estates. But the majority are going to be from government contracted surrogate mothers, raised in government facilities. Women will no longer be permitted to reproduce privately, not that they want to anyway…that’s the whole problem isn’t it! The artificial wombs and gene modification will come next. Any wars that start up will be short lived because GDP and Great Depressions/Recessions (real problems that guns don’t solve) will be too critical to ignore. It’s not going to be like last time, when WW2 industry saved America from bankruptcy. China is going to be the America of 2100.

Write about that. It’s all just Tetris pieces falling down the screen. How hard is it to predict where we’re headed when you really consider all angles. A few billion people die, many of old age. And fewer and fewer are born, as feminism/birth control/abortion penetrate the 3rd world. Once there aren’t enough bodies to keep industry and normal commerce alive….. we’re talking about a real problem here. Woman (an animal that has vicious psychological traits meant to survive ice ages) has been alleviated of all responsibility; especially reproduction, it’s primary function for this species. By definition, this is a survival emergency. We will see the dramatic effect of letting them off the hook from their natural role but will it really be so bad? After all, they will still be surrogates playing out their motherly ambitions and we will have disconnected sex from reproduction (that is what we want). Its already in motion. And the genetics that are causing all this, are the genetics that prevent us from correcting it.

Kind of black pilled….

And this is only the world’s 2nd biggest problem. I don’t even bother talking about our 1st biggest problem.
You know what it is. Anthropomorphism ie belief in god.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Thank you for your feedback. I will work through your points.

In my experience women can be quite calm and reasoned about their verbal aggression. Most of it is to induce shame in a man, to shame him into being compliant. Everyone can say heated things or things without forethought but women do not forgive the things you ever said while you have forgotten most of what they said a few hours later. The things you said will be saved and served up as weapons again and again.

“You said my mum was a witch” (you might have once in a fit of anger called her mum a witch but she calls your dad a dick every month. She however saves up this one indiscretion as weapon to use again and again any time you do not want her mum to come and stay even if your reason is legitmate and even if her mum stays round a great deal, meanwhile you forgive her saying she does not want your dad around many times and you forgive her calling him a dick. You are not weaponising something said in the past.

“If you were a real man you would stop doing X or would do Y” is common shaming tactics. It is rare for men to try to shame women into behaviour but women use words to do this all the time.

“You are a bad husband” is a great shaming phrase. Anything that can be used to express the feeling that she deserves a better man than you is an ideal weapon.

Repeated interrogation is also a tactic. This can be practically torture. To be asked the same question 20 times can result in a woman being given the answer she wants to hear just so a man can some sanity back. The answer she wants will then be replayed again and again as a weapon when later required. If men did this to women it would be called domestic abuse and women would be forgiven for stabbing them. As it is a man is just unmanly if he cracks under this abuse and even replies in an angry voice. He is not seeing the woman’s hurt or concern and he is trying to bully her with his angry voice. She can now say she feels hurt and this makes the man a bigger failure for trying to emotionally hurt a poor defenceless woman with an angry voice.

A woman is allowed to use her feelings as an excuse for abusive behaviour. A man is insensitive and cruel if he does not submit to feelings powered bullying. If a man tells her to get lost he is done with being abused, he is failing as a man to satisfy her need to talk about something. A man must provide emotional security or he has failed and this is shameful, so he must stay and bear the abuse.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Thank you for this!!!

Verbal aggression is not the problem. Men are direct (and can say “f* you”) and women indirect (and say “you will never account to anything”), but the issue is aggression inside a pattern of behaviour.

What few man will do is to undermine the self-worth of the other, while women consistently use these techniques as means of control.
The end goal is everything.

In a relationship a man’s aggression is usually a response. A women’s aggression is part of a systematic assault on the man’s psyche.

Saying “you will never account to anything” in a fight for money is understandable. Repeatedly drumming this idea, adding “your family is nothing”, “your brothers are also s~~~”, “why did I get involved with you” and other hurtful comments, without provocation, THAT is a consistent effort of brainwashing.

The final objective is control. The result is the destruction of the man.

In fact this is so instinctive in the gender that most women will do it to the degree that the man allows it.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

I LOVE YOUR STATEMENT!!!
There is nothing more abusive than an unhappy female who “feels” she isn’t getting what she wants. There is no depth to which they would not sink. The verbal, emotional, financial and mental abuse will kick in when she is exposed and called out for the child she is

[MonkParticipant 17038]

Anonymous wrote:

We need legal protection from the Feminists and MRA are the only ones doing anything about it.

They have failed, are failing, and will always fail – because they are still plugged into the system. The only mens movement (small m, you notice), that has ever got them worried is MGTOW.

If Feminists had their way they would pass legislation to chemically castrate ALL boys in pre-school with hormone drugs.

They are ahead of you. Germaine Greer proposed this decades ago. The obsession with Ritalin and the like may not be unrelated to this idea.

[MonkParticipant 17038]

Tim Patten wrote:

… while women consistently use these techniques as means of control.

Unless shown superior force – and a willingness to use it (the one without the other is not only worthless, but positively invites trouble) – all women become bullies.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Puffin Stuff; nobody is forcing you to participate.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s why I support MRA.

We need legal protection from the Feminists and MRA are the only ones doing anything about it.

What, exactly, are they doing?

I don’t support MRAs. I also don’t oppose MRAs.

…for the exact same reason I don’t oppose the special olympics.

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