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The “abortion debate” (pro-life or not) is not the actual focus and problem. It’s a distraction AWAY from the problem to keep people talking about something ELSE, to avoid pointing the finger at women who behaved irresponsibly.
It comes down to the irresponsibility that the law allows women to have. Women can have it both ways. But, we men, even we men that do not f~~~ these women, are made to literally pay for the irresponsibility of women. Women get to enjoy being f~~~ed and impregnated, and women get to enjoy the monthly government checks from their carnal mistakes.
No to abortion.
No to welfare.
No to us paying for the mistakes of women. Not our problem.Women should be made responsible for their actions, and women should be made to pay for their actions. Women should not be rewarded for their irresponsibility.
On a different note, I’ve really come to respect the people here. You guys are very ethical and morally upright. Thanks.
Thanks right back to you for being good people.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous1I need to ask. Whats happening to snake?
Anonymous42I’m p~~~ing him off for being me. I have that effect on some people, no mi problemo amigos, IDGAF.
No to abortion.
No to welfare.
No to us paying for the mistakes of women. Not our problem.Damn, how many f~~~ing times do I have to explain this s~~~. No to abortion? Ok, then the women just put the kids up for adoption, which is tax money, i.e. welfare. The only way to not pay for the mistakes of women is to F~~~ING ABORT. FFS. Hammer, please meet f~~~ing head.
I completely understand and agree that the real problem is before conception. Don’t get pregnant. If we address that problem, abortion/no abortion becomes a much smaller issue.
Getting to a point where unwanted pregnancy isn’t a concern seems like an insurmountable task. However, if cheap and available for men to control, it’s hard to imagine unwanted pregnancies wouldn’t plummet.
Ok. Then do it.
Anonymous42I found that the only road out of this clusterf~~~ed society is to just s~~~can women, and by doing so you toss out the baby, the bloodwater, and crush the woman under the cast iron tub as you also throw that out the window.
To say I support this bulls~~~ society??? Really Snake??? A man can’t be more MGTOW than when he hears the bong of the tub hitting the woman.
Telling other people what they can and cannot do with their body and property is NOT MGTOW. A bitch can have 1000 abortions and I could not give a fart in the f~~~ing wind. THAT IS MGTOW. Understand? No, you don’t, you are too busy posting another bulls~~~ ass post somewhere on this forum, acting like you don’t care/no f~~~s given, but your 16,000 stars clearly says otherwise. You are a tool, jackass, and I have your f~~~ing number.
Damn, how many f~~~ing times do I have to explain this s~~~. No to abortion? Ok, then the women just put the kids up for adoption, which is tax money, i.e. welfare. The only way to not pay for the mistakes of women is to F~~~ING ABORT. FFS. Hammer, please meet f~~~ing head.
The point is to make the women responsible for the bastards they make. Not to abort. Not to receive a government monthly check. But, to make the women responsible.
Anonymous42Snake, you’re baby butchering murderous Nazi asshole with misogynistic points of view and a totally closed mind that wallows in misery… Just kidding, but how do you like personal attacks? Asshole!
Hey KeyMaster, give Snake all my stars, he’s the one apparently obsessing over them, Show him how nice a guy I can be!
Give me a black star to go with my collection, Like Roy dale,,, thank-you
I need to ask. Whats happening to snake?
Damn, how many f~~~ing times do I have to explain this s~~~. No to abortion? Ok, then the women just put the kids up for adoption, which is tax money, i.e. welfare.
Damn how many times do we need to remind you to
REMOVE THE PRO-LIFE “ABORTION DEBATE” OFF THE TABLE.
Just for a goddam minute!Now, take what he said and look at it again:
No to abortion.
No to welfare.
No to us paying for the mistakes of women.
Not our problem.If women had to navigate that world, it would be VASTLY improved.
Abortions would be a virtual non-issue except in extreme / desperate cases and almost everyone can get blind that to some degree. Even a pro-lifer understands that. But aborting out of convenience or “I’m not ready to be a mom” or “I’m too young” or “he left me”.
NO.
• She was old enough to spread her legs.
• She was 100% capable of avoiding it.
• She had 12 forms of birth control – including abstinence.
• Allowing herself to get pregnant to keep a man around is bulls~~~.“Who will pay for my kids?!!!”
“YOU will. And ONLY you. Because they are YOUR kids. Right sweetheart? YOUR KIDS means YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Now if you are willing to include me as the father and acknowledge that I am the father and you start calling them OUR kids in our loving marriage where you will make an effort to be lovely or you are history with no benefits or payment, and I can raise and disciple OUR children when required….. I will consider a longer conversation with you.”
Until then, they are HER KIDS and HER PROBLEM.
And how she got those kids is also her responsibility.Her days of hostage holding and using children as leverage for profit would now be OVER. Make women understand that they – and only they – will be 100% responsible for their decisions and s~~~ty choices, and the problem will begin to solve.
• “Deadbeat dads” are not the problem. (See Wendy Williams video for proof)
• “Pro life or abortion” is not the point.• “More Women’s rights” is not even the problem…. because for every right a woman has to do something, she also has the right NOT to do it. So “women’s rights” is bulls~~~ too and doesn’t solve a problem.
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“No to abortion.
No to welfare.
No to men paying for the mistakes of women.
Not our problem.….. would solve a bunch a f~~~ing problems before she even THINKS about spreading her legs.
“THATS WRONG!!! I DO WHAT I WANT WITH MY BODY!!!”
“If you say so. But you – and you alone – will pay for it.”
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“OH YEAH??? WELL IF YOU DON’T WANT TO PAY FOR KIDS YOU SHOULD KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS!!!!”
“Consensual sex never takes place unless you want it to. Therefore any unwanted pregnancy that arises is 100% your responsibility because you could have avoided it. I can just go get a whore if I don’t want to keep it in my pants, she’s much more enjoyable than you too, and she understands personal responsibility. You’re a f~~~ing useless toddler. Say hi to YOUR kids for me. “
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Exactly keymaster, this whole s~~~ storm of a society started when men gave the right to vote to women.
Then women cryed and bitched, so manginas promised to release them from the responsabilities that came with their choices.
Honestly, i think aborting another unwanted bastard is the least worst of all the other solutions, but women have boatloads of contraception options AND I DONT HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR ABORTIONS OR THERE CONTRACEPTIVES.
Its HERE BODIE HERE CHOICE aka here actions, here responsabilaties.
here’s my two cents.
abortion is better than having an innocent child raised by a drunk/abusive/irresponsible mother
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
• Allowing herself to get pregnant to keep a man around is bulls~~~.
Besides a woman intentionally getting knocked up to force a man to stay and pay her, in any other situation, where one party forces another party to stay and pay the pressuring party, would be legally considered the crime of extortion.
The reason I am against abortion besides it being murder. And being against welfare. Is that abortion and welfare go to the core of irresponsibility that women experience. They know they can be reckless and if they get pregnant, they have the power to take another life so they can continue their irresponsibility. Or, if she keeps her bastard, men whom she has never even met are force to pay for her bastard and millions of other bastards, through taxes and regulations.
Ban abortion and abolish welfare, and you will the female entitlement movement end overnight.
abortion is better than having an innocent child raised by a drunk/abusive/irresponsible mother
But now you’re back to “debating abortion” again, and it’s not a solution just like always.
The solution to that problem is — >>> NO DRUNK / ABUSIVE / IRRESPONSIBLE MOTHERS.
THAT’s the problem. You don’t solve it by saying “abortion is better than that”. You solve it by letting her know being drunk, abusive and irresposible means the kids will go to the FATHER and she is OUT ON HER ASS. No money. No support checks. No say in the raising the kids.
Solved.
You will see fewer drunk / abusive / irresponsible mothers the very next day.
What’s amazing is the men here are actually interested in REAL solutions to REAL problems, and women don’t give a f~~~ing S~~~ about it. They don’t even WANT to improve the situation. It’s just:
“SOMEONE’S GOT TO PAY FOR MY 15 KIDS!!!!!“.
“NO. We do not have to PAY for YOUR 15 kids. YOU DO.”
But instead of understanding that, she actually went out and had a 16th kid. Abortion is not better than than. Forcing women to accept personal respnsibility is better than ALL of it. But you’ll never hear women get together and discuss accepting “personal responsibility”… unless they are speaking about a MAN.
HE has to pay for HER cheating behavior.
That’s every basic bitch roaming around today.—-
“I know I’m a c~~~, but he has to PAY ME to move out. HA HA XD”
“Guess again. Bitch. You don’t get a key or a wedding in the first place. PROBLEM SOLVED. BY A MAN.”
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42I like stepping off where KM described, arguing abortion is like arguing the over the twisted metal “after” the accident. The whole abortion debate is a looped running track to which there is no end. A track I will no longer run… Abortion is dead in more ways than one…
Forcing women to accept personal responsibility is better than ALL of it. But you’ll never hear women get together and discuss accepting “personal responsibility”… unless they are speaking about a MAN.
I am cherry picking this part.
Because the ending of your post, is absolutely true.Her body, her choice, it is also her responsibility.
My body, my choice, my responsibility.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
HE has to pay for HER cheating behavior.
That’s every basic bitch roaming around today.And is why being MGTOW is not just an idea, it is a survival tactic for many men.
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