Marrage is indeed dead guys.

[The_Meek_OneParticipant 30]

I officially proclaimed on, May 20th, 2015, this to be true. Someone has to stand and boldly announce it. Tell it like it is. The men of today have a right and need to hear it, come to terms with it, accept it, then move on to greener pastures, least they hold on to hope and find themselves trapped in the grinding wheels of this faulty institution called marriage. It’s an illusion boy’s. It’s a death trap for those who wonder into it. It’s a chameleon with sharp teeth and shackles. But how can I make these proclamations?

Well maybe because, I’m a man, who has seen the radical shift of marriage for over the last 50 years now. And I can tell you, just as sure as I breath, that the marriage game is over. The writing is on the wall guys. In fact, there is no spot left on the wall to write another single word.  It’s full. It’s clear. It’s complete. It’s final. And it’s sad. This is not how I wanted marriage to be, nor how God intended it to be. Yes I believe in God. No it was intended to be a win, win situation for all involved, man, women, and child. But now the daggers that women of  yesterday use to fling at us has turned into the nukes they fire at us today. These are big nukes guys and the courts are the launching pads for these instruments of destruction. Lets take a closer look at this destruction.

1.) The family unit is all but gone now. There are a few survivors, that’s for sure, but most family units today are a desolate place wrapped up in misery and pain. Adultery, lack of respect between the members of the family, hate, lack of child guidance, lack of any kind of support between the members, is all that is left. It’s a pandemic of enormously negative ramifications. The main reason in my mind is that woman, once the center piece of the family, as my mom was, has fled the scene. They have abandoned the ship and in doing so have caused a split between men and woman that I don’t think can be erased. That can’t be fixed.

Have men treated woman badly before, for sure they have, there are always a few bad apples in every batch as with the ladies, but can the destruction of the family unit, as a whole, be solidly place at the man’s feet, no I don’t think so, and I don’t say this just because I’m a man. I say this because the stats are clear and point directly at the ladies. After all, who initiates divorce most often now days? The ladies, of course. They know that to, don’t kid yourself. They know what they are doing, I have no doubt of that. They can read just as well as we can. Are they justified in what they do. No more then men are justified for what they do, although they will claim they are. Wrong is wrong ladies. Call it what it is. Be honest with yourselves. Own up to it, now that it’s already to late.

2.) The court system is so one sided that even a blind man can see it. They take more from the man then the ladies bring into the marriage. No equality at all guys. This one sidedness was setup and continues today unabated. Marriage has become nothing more then a contract of which the law of the land will coldly in force, you best believe it. You will be on the receiving in of this stick, over and over again. A stick that often comes right out of the blue. You think things are going great in your marriage? She never says a word indicating she is dissatisfied within it? That’s when she pulls the ugly stick out from behind the couch and begins the assault. The point is. You never know. Marriage is a contract that can be broken any time for any reason. Marriage, as you might picture it in your mind is not what marriage means to day. It’s dead, move on. Don’t partake.

3.) And last but not least, your manhood is destroyed, which leads to the complete and utter destruction of yourself self image. You’re left with anger, hate, and mistrust that follows you all the days of your life. You become damaged with no way to be fixed. Marriage is dead guys. It’s as dead as you will be if you engage in this practice.

Did I want to say all of these things? No, not in a million years. Like I said, I wanted marriage to mean more, I expected more from the ladies. Am I saying treat the ladies with distain, degrade them, hate them, treat them less then human. No. Remember again, I believe in God. God wouldn’t want that, and neither do I. No, what I’m saying is: Men go your own way. Let them have marriage and every negative thing that comes with it. Let them rule the roost, but let that roost be as barren as the dead sea. Aspire to something greater for there is certainly things greater then what the marriage of today can offer. Much more rewarding. The horse is indeed dead guys. Let it alone, lest you will become it’s next casualty. Guaranteed.

 

Joseph.

 

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

 

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Party time me thinks. So long marriage ….. don’t hit your vagina on the way out.

Yipee 😊

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The_Meek_One:

 

Yup.  I’m old enough to remember the early days of feminism, namely, women’s lib.  The social situation was a lot different back then.  There was very little discussion of no-fault divorce–divorce, in fact, seldom and was difficult to obtain.  Pre-nuptial agreements were new and were actually binding back then.  Single-parent families were rare and women who had children outside of marriage were generally scorned and shamed–by other women.

 

I’m going to be 60 this year and I often look back and wonder just how we got ourselves into the horrible mess we find ourselves in now.

 

 

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Sometimes I want to blame the older generations for making marriage such a f~~~ed up institution for my generation like they actually ruined a good thing for me, but then I realize, I really should be thanking you guys.  Once you get past the idea that marriage is something you have to do to start a family and have kids, and you come to terms with the fact that odds are you will get divorced, and odds are she will be the one initiating, you realize if you really want to go that route a live in girlfriend is the same thing as a wife, only she has to live knowing that if the relationship ends the gravy train is over and she’s not walking away with a dime of your assets.  Even if kids are involved 0-18 years of child support is a lot less money than 0-18 years of child support, half of my pension I’m working on, half of my 401k, half of my brokerage account, half of my cash holdings, and having to buy her out of any real estate wealth accumulated during the marriage.

So thanks older generation…because of you ruining marriage, I get to go through life making all of my own financial decisions and never have to face the pressure past generations did to involve myself in a contract that can literally cost me half or more of my wealth over night.

[The_Meek_OneParticipant 30]

Well sir, you have some interesting points there, but in defense of the older generation, it was an institution long before I showed up. I guess, I could have blamed the generations that came before me, placing it squarely on their backs, but the truth is each generation has added to the downfall of marriage one way or another. There are, of course as many factors that come into play on how this has gotten out of whack the way it has, as many grains of sand as there is on the Earth, but this is irrelevant to me. What is relevant is what to do with what we have now. Where do we go from here? This I can’t say. But I can say with absolute certainty marriage as is, is a no mans land, wroth with danger.

Now I know people want to figure this out, even correct it, but it takes two to dance and the other party, meaning the ladies, don’t want to. So, I say, walk away. Nothing more a person can do.

 

Beer wrote:

Sometimes I want to blame the older generations for making marriage such a f~~~ed up institution for my generation like they actually ruined a good thing for me, but then I realize, I really should be thanking you guys. Once you get past the idea that marriage is something you have to do to start a family and have kids, and you come to terms with the fact that odds are you will get divorced, and odds are she will be the one initiating, you realize if you really want to go that route a live in girlfriend is the same thing as a wife, only she has to live knowing that if the relationship ends the gravy train is over and she’s not walking away with a dime of your assets. Even if kids are involved 0-18 years of child support is a lot less money than 0-18 years of child support, half of my pension I’m working on, half of my 401k, half of my brokerage account, half of my cash holdings, and having to buy her out of any real estate wealth accumulated during the marriage. So thanks older generation…because of you ruining marriage, I get to go through life making all of my own financial decisions and never have to face the pressure past generations did to involve myself in a contract that can literally cost me half or more of my wealth over night.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Stories like this are popping up more and more:
U.S. marriage rate hits new low and may continue to decline

It’s a good thing.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[foolsgoldParticipant 5645]

Every once in a while I think I’m the odd man out. Then I read threads like this and know that I’m not the only one. I got a little more than 7 years extortion to pay. I pay less than average so I have enough money to live on. I will never give anybody access to my assets ever again. People around me know that because I have made it clear. What’s really screwed up is that I get more approaches from the ladies than I ever did. It’s almost as if they know I don’t care and are trying to change me. When they figure out they are not getting a dime from me they seem to try harder. I’ve been off the plantation for almost a decade and they don’t seem to get it. Have they figured out that once men quit the game that everything collapses?

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

i just told my parents today that im never getting married. I told them that one day I may have a kid, but not expect anything. literally might get some dogs and chill with them as my kids.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Schaefe89 wrote:

I told them that one day I may have a kid

You mean one day you might pay child support for a woman to have her kid.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Thanks for taking the words out of my mouth lol!! I was just about to say that,go the surrogacy route if need be.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

Thanks for taking the words out of my mouth lol!! I was just about to say that,go the surrogacy route if need be.

 

I might adopt a boy and teach him the ways of mgtow

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Beer:

 

Live-in relationships aren’t all what they’re cracked up to be.  Ever hear of “palimony”?  Look up what happened to actor Lee Marvin over 30 years ago.

It isn’t fair to blame my entire generation for what happened to marriage.  It was still a workable institution in the late 1960s when all that women’s lib idiocy started.  The responsibility for that clearly rests on the shoulders of those who either started it or supported it, like Gloria Steinem (the inventor of the un-bicycled fish) and Helen Gurly Brown (former editor of Cosmopolitan).  They encouraged women to resist the patriarchy by not cooking meals when their husbands came home or public displays of burning their underwear.

This antics eventually led to political action and consequent legislation.  We were subsequently saddled with child care laws and “equal pay for equal work”, which, in principal was considered fair and just, but, in reality is “equal pay for equal time at work”, not “equal pay for equal qualifications”, “equal pay for equal hazards”, and so on.

But one should keep in mind that it was an era of general discontent.  Anybody with a beef against society and the status quo went out and protested, not always peacefully, I might add.  Women were just one group that engaged in that.

 

[The_Meek_OneParticipant 30]

RoyDal wrote:

Stories like this are popping up more and more: U.S. marriage rate hits new low and may continue to decline It’s a good thing.

Hi Roy.

 

I just read the article you linked to, and although I agree with the title, I to have been seeing more and more of these types of headlines, I have a hard time agreeing in general with what he has written. Let me break this down a little bit. I’ll start with this:

“But some experts speculate that the headline-grabbing recent retreat from marriage may be bottoming out.”

Speculation to the highest degree, I’d say. It’s even beyond comprehension to make such a statement as that. Why so? Because the current environment has undergone no change at all, other then the fact is has worsened. The truth is it will continue to get worse because the ladies, and the laws that allow them to act without impunity, feel they are solidly justified to take it to the men. They feel they are fighting a just cause, even though they are wrong, wrong on so many levels, and continue to fight it to the bitter end, whatever that might be.
“A lot of people would like to see marriage remain strong. It offers benefits to children,” said Sam Sturgeon, Demographic Intelligence president. He noted that research has been somewhat politicized, but is “pretty consistent” in showing that children raised with two parents who are married to each other fare better across multiple measures.”

This is true, but sadly marriages don’t last, so the benefits bestowed unto the children is non-existent. Instead, the children grow up without any stability, without any support, causing further degradation of the family unit and society as a whole. They start to see marriage as something that can be disposed of on a moments notice, and guess what? They are right. This is what they see, mostly from woman.

Now we get to the meat of my disagreement with this article.
Sturgeon says the United States has been experiencing a “cultural retreat from marriage” that has several drivers. For one, the economy has provided less-than-stellar job prospects for those who are not well-educated. That’s hit unskilled men particularly hard, as they have not been seen as good marriage material. And both men and women are putting off marriage because they don’t think it’s likely to last, he said.”

Is this really the reason? No!
Sturgeon also highlighted the growing number of men and women who are living together instead of marrying, many having children outside of marriage. Studies have shown that cohabitating relationships are less stable than married relationships and do not have a great track record for longevity.

So then, this must be the reason, right?. Many more couples are cohabitating. That’s why men don’t want to marry anymore. No! This is the effect of what happens when marriage become death traps and invalided, not the cause of it. Clearly people can see that. After all, if marriage work for the benefit of all involved, then cohabitating would be of no use. It would be nullified.

Finally, fewer people are affiliated with religious institutions than in the past, also contributing to a decline in marriage, since religions have been among the staunchest advocates of marriage, Sturgeon said.”

So then, this is the reason. Less people are associating with the church. Are you kidding me! The rate of divorce among the church rivals the divorce rate of those who don’t attend. Those that attend church are not immune to the negative social environment we find ourselves in.  The woman of the church can be as feminist and pro divorce  as any outside of the church.

 

The decline in marriage was particularly steep for young women and for those with lower educational attainment. From 2008 to 2015, the report says, the marriage rate dropped more than 13 percent for young women with high school diplomas or less. At the same time, women who are college-educated have created a different trend. The number of women with college degrees who wed grew from 30 percent to 36 percent.

Women with degrees are more likely to follow what has been called a “success sequence” of college, then marriage, then children, said Sturgeon.

He said he believes most women still want marriage at some point, but young or less-educated women are holding out for economic improvements or better marriage-partner prospects. They have not necessarily been putting off having babies, though.”

Ok, ok, finally, the real reason is because either woman are not educated enough or too educated. And they are just better shoppers at a later stage of their lives. Really? They are holding out for mister right, although mister right has been there all the time, they just can’t see him because in their eyes, mister right needs to be perfect, and perfect doesn’t exist. He never has.

All I read here is people trying to attach the blame to something other then what is right before their eyes. That being, marriage offers nothing to anyone any more, woman have in most cases has made sure of that.

Just my thoughts.

Thanks for sharing Roy.

 

 

[The_Meek_OneParticipant 30]

Snake wrote:

Schaefe89 wrote:

I told them that one day I may have a kid

You mean one day you might pay child support for a woman to have her kid.

This was well said. Just like snake would have put it lol. He’s one of my favorite characters.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Marriage is a carriage
where you are a horse and a woman is riding the carriage
it wasn’t perfect arrangement drawing a carriage in the first place, but was all good, until women figured out they could change horses to go further

and this is mgtow.com:

No more carriages for me!
MGTOW!

hope you guys enjoyed this analogy

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[EnlightenedMGTOWParticipant 291]

Monogomous relationships?

Moving in with a woman?

Marriage?

Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.

[The_Meek_OneParticipant 30]

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

Monogomous relationships? Moving in with a woman? Marriage?

Well said lol.

[BryantParticipant 229]

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