Male Suicide Stats Wrong?

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Stentorian wrote:

I do not mind playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle, in this band of misfits.

This is exactly my kind of crowd.

Fits me right down to the bone as well…even if I am last in line, I am more than fine with that.

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Phantom wrote:

Fits me right down to the bone as well…even if I am last in line, I am more than fine with that.

In this group, yes. As I can feel who the men are, the quality of their person. And it is a privilege to learn and share in the experiences here.

Agreed and confirmed brother. Again, very glad you pulled through your own darkest hours. I’m sorry for how your father went out. .357 magnum. There are rarely errors made with that caliber weapon. Regrettably.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[OldBillParticipant]

Stentorian wrote:

Sometimes I read posts by some guys on here, and I marvel at how much I learn and how much more experienced or intelligent some men are. Their grasp of things.

I learn things from my brothers here every day and, you’re right, it is humbling..

I do not mind playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle, in this band of misfits.

I don’t even need to play. Instead, let me rosin their bows so they may play on.

Strike up, pipers, and play!

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

I mentioned this before, but my cousin killed himself over his ex-c~~~. It hit me like a ton of bricks when I heard about it, and I hadn’t even been in contact with him for years. Just another casualty, and I’ll bet any of you a lifetime supply of beer that she didn’t and couldn’t care less. I never met her, don’t know who she is, but I still feel safe in making that bet, because she’s a woman. I don’t know about any of you, but I know that even in my most blue pill days, contemplating suicide over some stupid broad who dumped me or rejected me would have never crossed my mind. I hope those of you out there read this thread and realize that those dumb bitches aren’t worth it. Giving up your whole life over someone who doesn’t even care? Really? Naw man, don’t give them that satisfaction.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

OldBill wrote:

I learn things from my brothers here every day and, you’re right, it is humbling..

Humbling is the exact word.

There is incredible diversity. If I read your post in the military service thread correctly, you have 30+ years in the army. And in the Trump thread, you mentioned a bit about your on-site gig. Which sounds very technical and on the high end of the skills level spectrum. That is impressive to say the least.

Others here, specialize in other areas. And we all converge. Like a hub. Sharing. Listening. Pointing things out. Troubleshooting. Giving advice. Helping where we can.

And that we all do this. For free. That to me, confirms that the men here are truly good. Self-serving people would not spend time listening to others, or care whatsoever about another’s well being.

We gravitate to this place. For various reasons. But it often comes down to like attracting like. Similar mindsets, similarities in backgrounds and ways of thinking and relating.

I take extra note, when certain individuals post something. Keymaster. Stealthy. MG-Tower. And Old Bill. There are many many more, but the top dogs are the top dogs. That is the order of things.

OldBill wrote:

Strike up, pipers, and play!

Unless I am terribly mistaken, tomorrow most of the developed world will be in sheer celebration. Over Trump’s win. The pipers, will be out in force! Bag pipes and kilts!

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[OldBillParticipant]

Stentorian wrote:

… you have 30+ years in the army. And in the Trump thread…

Six active in the Navy, the rest in the Guard with periods of active duty. Believe me, I spent far more time helping out in blizzards, hurricanes, and floods than I did shooting at people.

Others here, specialize in other areas. And we all converge. Like a hub. Sharing. Listening. Pointing things out. Troubleshooting. Giving advice. Helping where we can.

And that we all do this. For free. That to me, confirms that the men here are truly good. Self-serving people would not spend time listening to others, or care whatsoever about another’s well being.

That exactly explains why I am humbled to be part of this community. It’s the everyday behavior of my brothers here. There’s no need for flash or bragging. It’s the steady and sure which shines here. It’s men caring about men.

I’m not a religious man by any means, but this place enriches my soul. It truly helps me be a better man.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 25]

My thoughts are that the stats are too high. Even one man committing suicide is too much, even one man contemplating it is too much.

I’m more interested in the solution to it though than the actual stats. I’d like to see the work of Martin Seligman and Victor Frankl rolled out to men in massive numbers.

I went through s~~~ like no one would believe and ended up in hospital with a stroke cause of what was done. Suicide was never an option, I take a personal tragedy and turn it into a triumph. All the time I was thinking this is temporary, it’s isolated to a small area of my life and it’s them not me. My goal is similar to that of Erin Pizzey, and they will go to jail. I am coming for them lawfully and they better start running now. I always achieve my goal, no matter how long it takes me

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Anonymous wrote:

would have killed myself if I didn’t believe in God and didn’t worry about going to hell for it.

Especially before discovering MGTOW.

I usually do not express my faith in God to others in my life, but I also believe in God/Creator & I had those thoughts as well.

Stentorian wrote:

Agreed and confirmed brother. Again, very glad you pulled through your own darkest hours. I’m sorry for how your father went out. .357 magnum. There are rarely errors made with that caliber weapon. Regrettably.

Thank you for reaching out like that brother. It is regrettable, but it is what it is. In as much clarity/honesty? I can muster with this, I think it was the most valuable lesson he ever taught me.

It made me realize that I needed to care about my life, even if I thought he didn’t.

OldBill, I have never thought about it being normal, in the way you covered it in your post. Even while reading it & since, I always thought of myself as being weak minded, for allowing myself to sink that low into despair.

Your sharing it has given me a totally different perspective to ponder on, and it’s made me realize, that even now, I have still been shaming myself over it.

OldBill wrote:

Strike up, pipers, and play!

Thank you sir, for giving me a new tune to play.

round of to my brothers here at MGTOW!!

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Sky-O wrote:

I will spare you my entire life story. I doubt I could finish typing it without shedding tears and ultimately choosing not to click ‘post my reply’.

Sky-O wrote:

Those fires will forged the steel that is your soul.

Everything you shared hit me like a bullet train.

It has been a wild night…happy about the election & sad at the same time, in regards to this topic.

Really means more than you will ever know, for opening up like that.

Thanks brother.

[JimBoLeaParticipant 1891]

MY TIME OF SUICIDE CAME AS A DARK NIGHT MUCH LIKE YOUR NO SLEEP, TWISTING ON FEMALE F~~~ING ME OVER, I COULD NOT CHOOSE THE WEAPON I WAS GOING TO USE TO OFF MYSELF WITH, I NARROWED IT DOWN TO MY AR OR MY WINCHESTER 308 . I HOPPED IN MY TRUCK DROVE OUT WEST OF TOWN IT WAS A SLIVER OF A MOON OUT, I COULD SEE THE DESERT FLOOR AND BUSHES PRETTY GOOD. MY FIRST DOG HAD NOT COME DOWN WITH CANCER YET, SO HELL I TOOK HER AS WELL, SHE COULD EAT OFF MY CORPSE TILL SOMEONE FOUND MY BODY.

I ENDED UP CHAMBERING A ROUND IN MY AR THINKING IS THIS IT?? I ASKED GOD SHOW ME SOMETHING NEAT AND I Won’t DO IT. SURE ENOUGH AS THE WORDS WERE LEAVING MY MIND A METEOR WAS BLAZING A FIREY TRIAL UP THE VALLEY SO I COULD SEE THE RIMROCK AND THE VALLEY FLOOR AT THE SAME TIME. WHOA, THAT WAS NEAT !!! I SAT ON THE TAILGATE OF MY TRUCK TILL MORNING CAME JUST TALKING TO MY GOD.

LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

[TwistParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

That the rise in male suicide of men between the ages of 20 to 50 years old runs parallel to the rise of female hypergamy.

I think it is more specifically tied to men’s loss of their children, due to “tender years (sic)”, gynocentric laws, and no-fault divorce. I don’t think the loss of a relationship drives men to do the Dutch, since we have all experienced and survived that.

But to have your children brutally taken from you, with the support, encouragement, and reward of modern society?

Humor me this: ask a mother if she’d rather be raped or have her children taken from her. Going out on a limb to project a woman’s thoughts, but I’d guess most would choose to be raped.

A third of rape victims contemplate suicide, and 13% attempt it. source

So if hundreds of thousands of men, fathers, suffer a trauma worse than rape – why is anyone surprised?????

F~~~ their Rape Culture – this is a real crime against humanity.

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