Male Suicide Stats Wrong?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I can’t fking sleep & supposed to work in a few hours grrrrrr.

Anyways … the suicide stats are for men that knowingly and obviously kill themselves.

Now when I was in my darkest phase I did plan on hanging myself but that was a spur of the moment thing. It just happened as the time seemed right.

However, before that moment I had planned my suicide to look like an accident for many reasons.

So my insurance would pay out. My loved ones could eventually recover and not beat themselves up etc.

I’ve got a sick feeling that the stats we are seeing is the very low end of the number.

I think a lot of men would think this way.

Men are caring and logical ….. even when ending themselves.

Thoughts?

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Don’t you dare you bastard! We need you. Think how diminished we would be without you! You are one of the MGTOW that is the heart and soul of the movement! Don’t you do this to us!

[Anonymous 42]

Not me, I was going to do a blood DaVinci all over the wall behind me, I just wanted the pain to end. The thought of someone finding my artwork stopped me from doing the painting.

Totally lost a healthy fear of dying that day, in many ways something died that day, I guess I was willing to go on living but without ever caring again.

[Sky-OParticipant 18970]

I don’t have an answer to your specific question regarding male suicide.

But I will say this:

There is absolutely no doubt if the numbers were put on a chart/graph or something visual. Using a timeline from about 1976 to 2016 – spanning four decades. . . .

That the rise in male suicide of men between the ages of 20 to 50 years old runs parallel to the rise of female hypergamy.

And not really hypergamy of ‘single’ women that are waiting for the best deal.

But rather in cases of hypergamy where a man and woman are together and the hypergamy involves her making a well planned and calculated transition that includes devaluing and discarding the man she was with for a strategically better situation aka new c~~~ that has more resources and money.

The effects of that can be absolutely life altering and emotionally & psychologically devastating for the man who is discarded.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Men are caring and logical ….. even when ending themselves.

Thoughts?

It is what stopped me from taking mine. My father took his life with a 357 mag.

Even though he had abused me as a child, it still f~~~ed me up.

I could never figure out how to do it like an accident, because I did not want my daughter to feel the way I did.

She was still a child.

I am so thankful I failed at figuring out a way. I can’t believe I ever even considered suicide, let alone over why.

ILiveAgain wrote:

I’ve got a sick feeling that the stats we are seeing is the very low end of the number.

As for the stats, I would not be surprised at all, if you are correct.

Hope you are able to get some needed rest soon ILA. Flying a plane sounds awesome to me….doing it tired sounds scary as hell.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Phantom wrote:

ILiveAgain wrote:

Men are caring and logical ….. even when ending themselves.

Thoughts?

It is what stopped me from taking mine. My father took his life with a 357 mag.

Even though he had abused me as a child, it still f~~~ed me up.

I could never figure out how to do it like an accident, because I did not want my daughter to feel the way I did.

She was still a child.

I am so thankful I failed at figuring out a way. I can’t believe I ever even considered suicide, let alone over why.

ILiveAgain wrote:

I’ve got a sick feeling that the stats we are seeing is the very low end of the number.

As for the stats, I would not be surprised at all, if you are correct.

Hope you are able to get some needed rest soon ILA. Flying a plane sounds awesome to me….doing it tired sounds scary as hell.

Fear not as I’m a passenger on the way out so will sleep on plane.

Coffee and drugs will see me fully alert for my flight 🙂

Lucky we’re empty as delivery flight.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

I think because women always have several beta orbiters they’re not worried about what would happen if they broke up and even after they broke up they can go out to bars Etc get free drinks counseling from numerous girlfriends. We get shamed no matter what we get shamed. We’ve all considered putting a pistol to our head at one time or another. It’s perfectly normal considering that everything I had worked for in my life I had to give up half. I figured in the end it was only something material anyways I couldn’t do anything about it so it was not worth doing myself in. None of us need to do that ever

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Fear not as I’m a passenger on the way out so will sleep on plane.

Coffee and drugs will see me fully alert for my flight

Lucky we’re empty as delivery flight.

Makes me feel better. Thanks for the clarity on that.

🙂

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

Soon you’ll feel better

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

It was many years ago for me & the pain of all that s~~~ has subsided alot with the passing of time & bettering myself…and the words of encouragement from men on how they deal & dealt with it is more powerful than any words I know to convey.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2100]

Women ain’t worth it and the woman who caused the man’s suicide would feel NO remorse and Play the victim for tea and sympathy. Many women now exhibit zero degrees of empathy towards men so f~~~ them. They don’t deserve that level of power over hearts and minds.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

They don’t deserve that level of power over hearts and minds.

Amen!

[Anonymous 3]

I would have killed myself if I didn’t believe in God and didn’t worry about going to hell for it.

Especially before discovering MGTOW.

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Now when I was in my darkest phase I did plan on hanging myself but that was a spur of the moment thing. It just happened as the time seemed right.

Phantom wrote:

It is what stopped me from taking mine. My father took his life with a 357 mag.

I am truly glad that you are all here, to share your stories.

The very act of being here. Choosing to tough it out. Despite all the hardships.

Is an act of defiance and discipline.

It is a massive f~~~ you, to this whole system. Anytime a man chooses life over death.

I commend you all, on your choices.

Sky-O wrote:

That the rise in male suicide of men between the ages of 20 to 50 years old runs parallel to the rise of female hypergamy.

Parallel, as f~~~. Could not be more parallel.

C~~~s unleashed in the West. Steady decline of men’s well being, in direct proportion. That math looks right to me.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[OldBillParticipant]

Suicide statistics of all kinds are always suspect because suicide is normally not reported. Suicides are hushed up, not reported, and otherwise glossed over by police, medical personnel, families, and others for reasons running from shame to insurance payouts to embarrassment.

The fact that there has been a noticeable rise in known suicides among males strongly suggests that there has been a much larger “hidden” rise and a rise our masters do not want to talk about let along acknowledge.

As for my brothers who have seriously considered suicide, there is nothing whatsoever wrong with that. As a man in this day and age, contemplating suicide is entirely normal.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Thanks for this thread ILA…

and thankful we are here, and for the brother’s posts in this thread.

Impacts more than words can say.

[Sky-OParticipant 18970]

For those of my brothers that ever contemplate suicide at some point:

I will spare you my entire life story. I doubt I could finish typing it without shedding tears and ultimately choosing not to click ‘post my reply’.

The specifics are not important.

But I was once there. It was darkness. No hope and no light.

No matter how bad it gets, you need to realize you are a man. You are stronger than the lies, deception, manipulation and evil of what attempts to bring you down.

In your darkest hour, alone and amidst what might seem like a lack of hope. Every minute that you continue to hold on and fight is an act of defiance against those who are not your equal and never could be.

In tears, almost lifeless but still breathing, questioning the fundamental aspects of your existence and trying to reconcile what brought you to such a state: Is the exact moment where you will find your strength is you reach deep enough inside. It is inside. It always was, and it was waiting for you to discard all that was holding you back.

If you can make it to that point and rise back up against all odds, your reward will be an awakening and rebirth that you would have never known was possible had you not found yourself in the fires of hell.

Those fires will forged the steel that is your soul.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Will think about this thread off & on, probably for the rest of my life.

Have read powerful words here, some in fact, that I have never even heard before, regarding this topic.

I would wind up quoting everything here.

You guys are awesome.

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Sky-O wrote:

In tears, almost lifeless but still breathing, questioning the fundamental aspects of your existence and trying to reconcile what brought you to such a state: Is the exact moment where you will find your strength is you reach deep enough inside. It is inside. It always was, and it was waiting for you to discard all that was holding you back.

If you can make it to that point and rise back up against all odds, your reward will be an awakening and rebirth that you would have never known was possible had you not found yourself in the fires of hell.

Those fires will forged the steel that is your soul.

Brilliantly written, Sky-O.

I am pro life brothers. I would not presume to tell another man what to do with his life. But so long as life is an option, I choose life.

F~~~ the c~~~s. Every last one of them, who have caused us harm. Pain. Suffering.

And f~~~ this system, which steals from us in every conceivable way.

Women and this system, can go and f~~~ themselves.

Men are waking up, and moving the f~~~ on. There is every reason to live.

Watching feminism collapse onto itself, while MGTOW and men’s rights take rise. That is a beautiful sight to behold.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

MGTOW Age, the feeling is very much mutual.

I have a real fondness for the men in this group. It is a unique place, with rare people.

Sometimes I read posts by some guys on here, and I marvel at how much I learn and how much more experienced or intelligent some men are. Their grasp of things.

I do not mind playing 2nd or 3rd fiddle, in this band of misfits.

This is exactly my kind of crowd.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

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