Lurker no more.

[LandmineParticipant 644]

Gents, a big hello to you all – the creator(s) of the site, the registered users and bystanders.

I have lurked enough these past couple of weeks, having discovered the site by accident.

It has brought me a mix of feelings, of comfort to realize I am not alone and never will be again, and pain for revisiting what I call my untold story.

The biggest emotion I have slowly embraced is one of hope. Hope for me, hope for others.

This post is my introduction, the narrative of my success, my failure if I were to believe the standard that society expects, and ultimately (and the reason for taking the time to write it) as an extreme warning to lurkers, people on the fence, the curious and the critics of those who have decided to go their own way.

I am not a writer yet will attempt to keep a semblance of order to what follows, nor have I ever in my life considered adding my voice to something like this, in the public space.

I have had enough of the BS that permeates throughout what passes as life today. I don’t say this out of desperation or as an attempt for attention or pity.

I speak as a man who believed in it all. Family, kids, the Mc Mansion, the cars, the vacations and everything else.

Before I continue, I will be clear on some things –

My story is simply my story. You will find while it is unique to me, it is NOT unique with many, many commonalities to stories already shared.

My journey to today has taken years. Yes, years of struggle, despair and disbelief at the harsh realizations I found to be true.

While I want to be short and sweet, I cannot be so if I’m to be truthful with all of you.

For the lurkers, who like me visit and read the forums etc., I ask this of you – share your story, if even only bullet points. I ask this of you for a couple of reasons. Firstly, it may be the healthiest thing you could do to get it off your chest if you do not have someone to share it with. Secondly, the only way for MGTOW to grow properly is organic, for that to happen more men need to come forward with their stories. Enough is enough.

Finally, to be clear, my story as I share here has evolved over roughly 5 years. During this time, I have lost my successful business because of rumors, been verbally accosted in public because of rumors, have financially struggled (still do), have swallowed my pride and on occasion consulted with a counsellor for my mental health, been incarcerated (because of rumors/lies and white knight cops), almost been deported back to my country of birth because of a lie in family court, it goes on.

Some points I will have to remain vague to remain somewhat anonymous, beware of possible triggering for those of you who have been demonized. So, grab a beverage, some popcorn and enjoy…

As indicated above, I’m in the usa but hail from Europe. English is my first language.

Until 2 weeks ago, I was lonely. Not lonely for a warm body beside me, but for any likeminded individual who might actually feel the way I feel. Folks, I’m not dumb, nor am I the smartest cookie, but since before my life was sucked into a vacuum I was questioning everything.

Questioning my marriage, whether to have kids, my career, my possessions, my friends, my acquaintances, my family, my house, everything.

Actually, not true. I never questioned my dog. The one constant in my story – albeit with a forced separation of over a year. More on that later.

I arrived in the usa about 10 years ago with a wife. And yes, I believed I was safe. And truthfully at that time I was. She was then an honest woman, supportive and worked.

Read that again folks, and realize after everything I’ve been through I still say I was safe. That was the reality I lived, I had someone, was doing all expected of me, as was she. Shared common goals and dreams with a plan to make it all happen, including the huge effort and expense of emigrating to this country.

Read that again, because this is the same person who attempted to not just ruin me emotionally and financially. Add to that an attempt to have me incarcerated and deported. I surely wish I was kidding.

Understand I feel nothing for this creature. No anger, no love. Not even pity. I have worked on myself to reach this point of acceptance. I tell you now it is liberating.

Liberating to know I made it this far, I’m still here, liberating to know I am among many men who will accept me for who I have become.

Having found this site, I finally feel as if peace and calmness is now ready to embrace me.

My story begins with suspicions of infidelity based on different patterns of behavior etc. Seeking advice online, I found a forum (not this one) and it cemented for me that I was not crazy, the circumstances warranted investigating further. Meantime an “innocent” statement is made by the unicorn that sends me into hyper awareness mode and full-time paranoia.

Suspicions confirmed, an agreement is made not to involve attorneys. During this time, I am stealthily making preparations to protect myself with documents, cash and a var. Thank Christ I did. If I never understood the term pussy pass before, I would soon find out.

All dialogue and agreements were a charade. Police called because I invaded her space – I knocked on bedroom door to ask a question. Yes, a simple question. No arrest because I had recorder on me.

A day later, the comfort of my home was to be invaded swiftly again while I was in solitude enjoying peace and quiet accepting I now had to forge a new future for myself. Cue the arrival as the siege of my property began. I expected a deputy with documents. No, I got the full service of several officers.

I’m informed I have 10 minutes, no dialogue with the unicorn (who now has been promoted to evil queen and is in complete victim mode), to be escorted by officers at all times – in my own home. I take no pleasure in telling you I was treated like a criminal, and I say that as someone who is very thick skinned and not easily threatened.

I must remain vague here. I get my go bag. No weapons. Cash is hastily grabbed. I’m sweating. I can already see my future. It’s upsetting. Yes, I cried. I cried hard. Not for the situation, the loss of a previous best friend, a wife, a house. No, I cried for my true best friend. I cried for my dog. I wouldn’t see him for 2 weeks, when I could clear my name and reputation and fight this in court. I knew I was about to spiral for at least a week, and needed solitude.

I spent the night driving. Thinking. Planning. To this day I only recall going to familiar places we lived, everything after that is a blur. I am sure I ran every emotion that night.

I had a 2 week wait for court to get back in the house. I decided I didn’t want back in but still went to court to clear my name. The big lie is told that I broke the order and was in the house and making threats, told with such enthusiasm and zest that males and females alike look at me with expressions of disgust and hatred. Yet I have a witness, who clears me without doubt, everything is verifiable AND is verified while in court. Thus, perjury has been committed in court. Guilty you say? No, judge didn’t even blink. 5 minutes previous I was headed to jail, now its let’s move on. Yep, this happened. I admit to using a var in car, almost teasing the judge to put me in a cell, was respectable but still nfg. Despite having documents to show ownership, dog is to stay at house?

I leave that courtroom a free man, and grateful to be so, and shaken by the knowledge that while my life is unravelling I am both growing and having my eyes further opened. I actively pursue to get my dog legally to no avail. The system is biased.

I also steadfastly believed it couldn’t get any worse. Yeah when you challenge the universe like that it always accepts.

At this point I am already losing my business, have had a couple of run ins publicly with “friends/acquaintances “where I’m called everything except a rapist and murderer. People that visited my house, broke bread with me, I found employment for. I am also, in an effort to save cash, sleeping in my car, sometimes a companion’s bed as I am now headed down a rabbit hole of complete debauchery. Much like a freed caged animal, I am in full sexual abandon with NFG. I’m drinking, and experimenting with other substances. As I reflect on that I knew what I was doing for the most part, the release from years of playing it safe and pent up frustration. I wasn’t much of a drinker to this point nor had I ever done drugs. Amazingly, not least because of looks or accent, the discovery of behaving like what I now know to be called “chad” was far too easy. There was no more mystery with women. However, I had rules, and never lied. My last tryst however was the biggest red pill of the opposite sex. In the company of said female, after our activities it was divulged that she was married. She lied to me. Look I messed around, but not this way. This was the rule I was NEVER willing to break. Yes, I told the guy. I met him, sat with him and asked for forgiveness. He decided to be cucked, that she was worth it, and their faith would get them through it.

Remember I said it couldn’t get any worse. It could but thanks for playing. My crime was sleeping in my car – vagrancy. I was smart enough not to go nuclear as the other cruiser unknown to be was another white knight cop, and they had an itch for damsels in distress. This was to be a recurring theme, hassle from these 2. Random traffic stops. Random searches etc.

I was detained and incarcerated overnight at the officer’s discretion for fear of my safety from the elements. Yeah guess it was cold night. WTF? How the absolute f%^$ can this s~~~ be allowed to happen. On release I was “encouraged” to leave the county.

Mediation before family court for divorce was a joke. The system is rigged. The mangina didn’t give 2 f~~~s.

Court even better and I’ve managed to get quick hearing. Division of possessions, vehicles etc. And the dog. Have the paperwork of ownership, proof that I have somewhere to live, small income. Feeling confident I will get him.

I declare she is pregnant and request of the court to document it that unless it’s the second coming of Christ, it isn’t mine. Because I know chad moved in 2 days after I was removed from the house. He even got to wear my clothes, how nice for him to enjoy my luxuries including my home theatre and other vehicle.

Divorce decree I got off lightly. Seriously. I had f#$@ all income at this point. So, no alimony of any type. We pay our own outstanding debts. I will quit claim deed the house, and amazingly, it is in the decree that a child conceived during the separation is not mine. I swear seeing that in writing was amazing. Why? Because while not mine, I could have been on the hook financially for it, it was not yet born. That’s how messed up the system is.

I’m devastated to read the dog is to stay with her, as the house is the only home he has known. Really? I have documents of ownership, I kept up the insurance, had food delivered every month and have proof from the vet he’s behind on screenings and shots, and you think this is best for him. I’m aware he isn’t being walked but can’t prove it. I eventually get him back from her at a cost. His health is down and has gained significant weight, is obese. Takes him a while to accept me again. Rage boils every time I think back on that. I have no respect for any human that treats animals like this, none.

To anyone who has been divorced with kids, I have no words. I only had a dog and it almost destroyed me to be separated from him. The thought of a child or children, I don’t know what I would do.

I have worked hard on myself, to rebuild. I’m not a quitter but the above, and stuff I’m leaving out, has taken a toll. Despite the tone of this story I always maintained a positive attitude and my humor. I recently went back to the field I had my business in, and found I’m still treated with disdain. Understand I was more than successful, I had it all, was respected and revered. Seems even when they know they were wrong they don’t like to admit it or make amends, man and woman alike. So, I am now endeavoring to enter another filed. I cannot work for someone, whether it be a corporation or the like, the system. I’m done with that. My strength is my determination, my only regret is it took me this long to get to this point, yet I am now the best version of myself mentally. Next will be to get back in shape physically, my health has suffered but is improving.

As for my ex, I can honestly say the date of my extraction from my own house is etched forever in my memory, and from that day I never again cared for her. Time has been unkind, she most definitely hit the wall, and hard. She now has that vapid, empty thousand-yard stare to her, a hallow cavity of a woman. Her health took a serious downturn with a permanent illness that limits her mobility and day to day activities. I take no pleasure in that. She is now also a single mother, the chad flew the coop, he also took her for a lot of money, and she is now on her 3rd remortgage.

I feel no anger, pity or anything for her. While I write all this my emotions are flooding back and I find myself passive. It’s simply a chapter of my life now almost complete. I will continue to grow, and live happy determined to once again be a success as I deem success to be, not societies version, and not a woman’s.

By mgtow standards, I guess I am monk. I have had no physical interaction since 2015. I’m fine with that. Will I engage again, maybe? However never again will I have a “girlfriend”, wife or cohabitate. It is not worth it. I don’t have much financially, but I have energy and a willingness to work for what I want to achieve. I am not a victim, I am a survivor destined to be another statistic.

Some additional comments, etc. especially for lurkers;

To anyone contemplating or experiencing a divorce, I offer this – think long game. Protect yourself with a voice activated recorder, if not a bodycam, I’m not an attorney so check the laws local to you. Yes, I stood in court and admitted to using one and have no regrets, because having read threads here on rape accusations, I have no doubt I could have been a statistic if I returned to that house. In this way, I was lucky. As I was also lucky in my sexcapades to not have had a pregnancy, std’s or false accusation. Visit every single divorce attorney in a 20-mile radius, first consult, for free. They cannot represent her this way. Document every single thing, and if separated – get off the phone, email or text when possible. If short on cash, get advice and represent yourself, know the procedures to enter evidence etc. the judge will not help you here, they can’t.

To anyone experiencing or experienced with infidelity, it is never about you, remember that. Never. It’s genetics at work, base root narcissism and more. You will experience lies, gas lighting, paranoia and depression. You will read published authors of big standing in an industry that is gamed for women, against men, becoming convinced that your choice of women is to blame, that your behavior/lack of certain behavior with a partner is to blame, that you should forgive and forget, that you are a codependent. IT. IS. ALL. LIES. Every bit of it lies. See as men, we accept responsibility easily when we f~~~ up, and that is played on. Women make such outstanding “victims” as they refuse to take responsibility when called on their actions.

NAWALT – yes they indeed are. Are their exceptions, possibly but not of any recent generation.
Male friends – If you can help, help. Have boundaries because they have to want to help themselves first.
Sex – don’t stick it in crazy. From a guy with 2 stalkers later. Sex is NEVER free, always a cost.
Divorce Attorneys – Scum, the only ones who win every time.
Violence / Revenge – it’s not worth it. There’s an art to it, and if not enough time has passed you will mess it up. Leave them be, they have a way of messing it up themselves.
Groups – divorce groups etc., maybe worth it, for me no. I went, but really it doesn’t help s~~~’s depressing.
Sex Addiction – I laughed many, many years ago when I heard this was to become a recognized addiction. But speaking from my own experience and that of women I encountered, indeed it is. FYI – women are worse than men, another lie, because we can’t know the true nature of women getting out into society, can we?

I hope to add value to the group when and where I can and repeat that I am happy to have found it.

I no longer view society how I was taught from a young age. I never watched t.v. , always read or got off my ass and travelled, experienced things first hand. Looking around me each day if I’m out, I can only sigh a small sigh as swallowing my daily red pills is still painful. Single moms, land whales, fat positive, simps, manginas my goodness they all have titles.

If I had the power, heck I’d be tempted to press the red button.

I don’t hate women, I wish them well and do not engage unless I have to. To that end, while I have a strong distaste for simps/manginas, if they keep the women away from the rest of us have at it.

There is no longer any mystery to women for me. I was led to believe they don’t know what they want. WRONG. They know exactly what they want. They want your money. Want proof?
I asked my ex, why did you move countries with me if you were so unhappy with me all that time ago? Because of money, yep she admitted it. I was a strong provider.

I am now in my forties. I always thought I would have kids, but no longer regret that. When finances improve, vasectomy. No doubts at all.

This has been my journey, with lots omitted. Crazy stories, funny titbits, awesome experiences.

But they pale in comparison to the cesspool of raw emotions women, not just my ex-wife, have put me through in my life.

I have been on 2 occasions extremely successful – 7 figures. Hopefully third time the charm and all that. But I am not distracted by money, possessions or the like. I could happily live in the woods, live off all that nature might provide. I don’t do social media, read the news, or watch TV. I was an avid fan of movies, it was an easy escape for me, however the more red pills I take the more p~~~ed I got at them, with the lies and shams they have become.

For women reading this, girls it’s over.

You have before you a man’s man, tough when it counts, yet soft and gentle with a woman’s heart who believed in prince charming, the castle and glass slipper.

Of being a provider, of languishing every luxury and gifts upon the gentle sex.

Of being a gentleman in public, a beast in bed, and a nurse when sick.

Of keeping a kept house, carrying our weight with laundry, sumptuous dinners of the finest quality ingredients. The latest and greatest vehicle in the sweeping driveway of the large house glamorously furnished that it would be appropriate in a designer magazine.

Of accepting your family, your friends and supporting them emotionally and financially.

We, the men, did all this and more. All we wanted was the occasional blowjob and a kiss and a cuddle. You went right ahead and f~~~ed it all up.

The truth is out there, but it isn’t aliens, it’s the truth of what feminism now represents, what girls’ night out are truly for, what stay at home moms really intend to do with their day while we are away slaving to keep your entitled butts in luxury. What the hive mind thinks, feels and encourages.

A comparison on the above, stay with me here – gay marriage. I have friends who are gay. I told them heck you might as well be miserable like the rest of us. Now look at the hive when it comes to divorce, you think it’s any different? All your friends divorced/divorcing, you think they want you happy? Don’t kid yourself. You know you compare yourself to them, and they to you. The hive always infects.

To the lurker I say this. Be grateful if you find this site before it’s too late. And remember if you have a partner or wife, it’s just your turn.

To the critics reading this I say to you, genuinely and respectfully, look around you. Really, look. Open your damn eyes, whether you’re a male or a female. Do you remember a time people gave a s~~~ for others, the kindness of strangers, when a man could help a child who fell off their bike etc.? When a man actually held a door for a woman and felt good about it, because that was expected of him, he knew this and was fine with it. Now, that same man, not only won’t hold that door open, he won’t look at the woman because of a four-letter word. FEAR.

1 phone call. 1 phone call. 1 phone call. That’s all it takes now. No evidence, no witnesses, lie in court with the full knowledge if one commits perjury there are no ramifications. The pussy pass.

Sexual liberation is not what you think it is critics. It’s back to victimization and refusal to accept responsibility for one’s actions like an adult. You call it slut shaming, and are incorrect. It’s calling a spade a spade. The fact it is now encouraged by the media for a woman to have as much experience as they want, I completely agree with you. Free choice and all that. But hopping on that carousal while waiting on the beta prince, well no that can’t work. Who would want a used-up woman who has no respect for herself? Because face it, if someone (talking about both sexes here) has respect themselves enough, they don’t engage in such behavior over an extended period of time. You can phrase it however you like, yes men are bothered by how many she’s had, but we are more bothered when we learn they were mostly one nighters, without protection etc. That’s a gas tank of danger to a man, who having become successful enough to actually get the attention of a female is now expected to want that? No.

Add onto this the false accusations, false paternities and more, ask yourselves, why would be bother? We’re not virgins, hopeless or depressed.

We are the awakened. We are MGTOW.

We are the awakened. We are MGTOW

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Welcome sir.
i’m glad you found the path to freedom.
Enjoy the forums and the site.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[joetechParticipant]

Welcome to the forums, man. Stories like yours make me realize how lucky I was in my two divorces. Now that you’re here you can make a fresh start and avoid the “potholes”. Potholes, you ask? Yeah, they’re easy to recognize. Just look for a vagina.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

Thank you for sharing. I also do not have kids but I am very close to my dog Nietzche. The thought of someone taking him from me fills me with dread. You have my sympathies.

[Anonymous 12]

Welcome aboard and happy to see you start posting.

[MurineesParticipant 704]

Thanks for your story!

After the trial of fire, we will be purer. Glad you made it.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome Brother

Landmine wrote:

She now has that vapid, empty thousand-yard stare to her, a hallow cavity of a woman. Her health took a serious downturn with a permanent illness that limits her mobility and day to day activities. I take no pleasure in that. She is now also a single mother, the chad flew the coop, he also took her for a lot of money, and she is now on her 3rd remortgage.

Karma can be cruel, but it is always just. Never interfere with Karma. Let it run it’s course as it is wiser than us and has the experience of thousands of years.

Landmine wrote:

See as men, we accept responsibility easily when we f~~~ up, and that is played on.

Perfect – say it 3 times just so it sinks in. We are not the cause of her hypergamy.

Excellent to read. Well done.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 7]

Welcome home. Nice to meetcha.

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Welcome brother! Welcome to freedom. These women are just no longer worth it. If a man ever called himself a ‘god’ he would be laughed at. Its ridiculous.. But these females openly refer to themselves a “goddesses” The narcissism is incredible.

Again Welcome!

#ICETHEMOUT! Deny them EVERYTHING!

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[IRuleMeParticipant]

What a story Landmine. Sounds like you dodged a few yourself, and stepped on a few as well. Women have zero mercy. Not in marriage, not in court, and certainly not out of court. Everything you see is a mirage. Not only does fakeup help them hide their face, they have a natural poker face to begin with. While there may be some “good personality” women out there, in the end, they all want the same thing.

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Hi Landmine! You’ve got some excellent advice there, obviously coming from hard experience. Glad you are pulling through, and look forward to reading your posts.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[Anonymous 42]

Landmine wrote:

Actually, not true. I never questioned my dog.

LOL!

Landmine wrote:

Having found this site, I finally feel as if peace and calmness is now ready to embrace me.

It’s called “affirmation” brother! Settles the soul, cleans out the doubt!

Landmine wrote:

I take no pleasure in telling you I was treated like a criminal, and I say that as someone who is very thick skinned and not easily threatened.

A man that marries is marrying a gestapo that stands behind them hidden from sight until the day she summons them, out they come goose step with hobnails clacking on your floor, your domicile, your domain under the foot of her gestapo!

Landmine wrote:

Because I know chad moved in 2 days after I was removed from the house

Same thing happened to MATRIX another member.

Landmine wrote:

We are the awakened. We are MGTOW.

AWESOME INTRODUCTION! Well worth the read! Welcome to the club!

[DocParticipant]

I read. I took a deep breath of in trepidation.
And said F~~~.

Welcome home bro. Truly.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 3]

Welcome! this is where you belong, with like minded men who have experienced similar trails & tribulations & came out the other end intact & whole.
we are MGTOW

[Anonymous 43]

reading about other men living in cars makes me cry silent angry tears. welcome brother.

[Anonymous 5]

My f~~~ing God!!!

Horrific story, beautiful written.

F~~~ you society, you’ve damaged us beyond repair.

We’re coming for you, expect hell.

Welcome bro.

[Anonymous 5]

A warm welcome
What a terrific intro. It has to be one of the best, if not the best I’ve read.

Your right. The concept of reality we were indoctrinated with is just a projection of what women, as a hive, want us to believe so they can utilize us as resources. It’s a beautiful dream but leads to a horrible day to day reality.
Homer’s epic story of the sirens says it all. Men have been trying to use Ulysses’ trick of tying ourselves to the mast ever since by using prostitutes and now female doll/robots to avoid being shipwrecked.

Correct, SEX is NEVER FREE! Beware of Greeks bearing gifts,,, and there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Sex is usually the most expensive thing we ever buy.
Thanks for the great read.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Welcome brother!… We have awakened and are leaving the plantation to serve ourselves…We are “good men” no more…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[MaddladParticipant 765]

Sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations mate. When i read some of your experiences, especially the part about her being another cheating c~~~ it made me angry, but the last part of your intro struck a chord with me because we all wanted things to be different but society has f~~~ed us all over.

I hope the rest of your journey is everything you wish for.

Cheers
🙂
M

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

Sorry to hear about what you had to endure. Great intro brother. Welcome!

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

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