Lost my cool, almost, with a blue pill colleague

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Normally I am indifferent to the blue pill man taunts, but today I almost lost my rag (temper).

Blue pill guy, married 3 kids from the last place I worked. Was a decent bloke I knew for a few years. Over that period he borrowed about £6,000 (USD$7,500) from me, which he said he would repay at the end of this year. Sadly he was told he is being made redundant shortly.

He invites me out for lunch as he wanted to ask a favour. I agreed. Aside from the fact I ended up paying for lunch as he had no money on him, credit card maxed by his missus, he wanted to find out how much cash I had spare, to help him out on his debts…..

He then proceeds to tell me I should get married, and then talks about how in a few years he will probably be a grandfather, whereas I won’t. He then gets a call from another friend, who is married with 2 kids, and just had a heart attack …..

He then asks leading questions to establish how much money I might have. That car is worth £20k, why don’t you buy it outright ? (I say nothing). So and so paid £45k for that extension, that’s alot ?(I say nothing).

After we finish lunch, he is no clearer to his objectives. I told him, ‘dude, sell your second car, cut out your wife’s wasteful hobbies, stop spending on your credit cards, and take whatever job you can get, and spend less than what you get, there are alot of things you cannot afford now’.

He went quiet, so I added, ‘don’t be offended, but it’s because I am trying to be a decent friend, that I am giving you this genuine advice. When you are in a deep hole, sometimes the best thing you can do, is stop digging’.

‘Pay me back what you owe, when you get your next job’, I told him. I shook his hand, and walked off.

But I am thinking….did I do the honorable thing ? Should I have slapped him in the face and shouted , ‘You blue pilled p*ssy, take the red pill and wake up…you are heading down sh*t creek without a paddle’. Is it right to kick a man when he is down…even if itmight do him good?

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[Anonymous 54]

Sounds about right if you hope to ever get your 7,500 back!! Hah

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

DaveV wrote:

‘Pay me back what you owe, when you get your next job’, I told him. I shook his hand, and walked off.

You sir did the right thing. You know you will not see the money. That being said we don’t kill our own kind or shoot our wounded. BTW, can I borrow 5K? LOL JK

You are honorable.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

You did the honorable thing but you can kiss your money goodbye.

[Anonymous 43]

Jebus on the cross, why’d ya go in for 6000 pounds?

sorry, I doubt you will see that money. Set up a payment schedule, put it in writing, get him to sign it. As far as how you treated your friend…weeeeeeeell he knows what he needs to do, but he can’t put the wood to the wife. She will, umm you know, not be happy with him, and put him in divorce hell, stick him with the debts, take away the kids and probably have him arrested for malicious bulls~~~.

I told my c~~~ to stop spending money, to save for kid college and retirement. F~~~, she could have saved $75,000 a year easily for about for the last 10 years. Naw, we gotta p~~~ it away faster than she made it. Let’s take the kids college money, and spend it on a $30,000 sports car with a $10,000 dealer markup! and pay full f~~~ing sticker! yeah! 2005 Mustang GT. She still has it, it’s the last one running I think. and then lets go on the ultimate 2 week Disney cruise and stay in the resort for another 2 weeks, and do it a couple years in a row. OOOO Let me take my step mom over to Ireland, because she is like 4th generation south side Chicago Irish…yeah, and stay in a f~~~ing castle and rent a Bentley! For a month! Sounds great you should do that! The woman is as Irish as Swiss Cheese.

oooo oooo oooo I’m going to buy a second house in the middle of no where for twice what the first house cost, commute an extra hour, and make the kids commute an hour to school. Ohh Kid needs a car…new car! woot!

When we first got married, I had a financial plan. I visited a financial planner and had it all set, all she had to do was give her HR a form, sign some other forms, and we would have been millionaires by the age of 40. Naw, F~~~ all of that. Why would we do that? That’s stupid.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Hey could you loan a couple G’s to a nig-You offered solid advice. Whether he is smart and takes it is his move. It seems if he was smart, he already would have stopped spending so much. But you’ll see.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

DaveV wrote:

‘Pay me back what you owe, when you get your next job’, I told him. I shook his hand, and walked off.

I’d say your money is gone, but I’ve been wrong before. I will say NEVER lend money without kissing your money goodbye first. That’s just experience. I still lend, but I never expect it back. Saves a lot of stress. As for slapping sense into him, forget it. He is a victim of his programing and some people will never wake up from the matrix. Only until he is ready can you expect that your words will be heard. I stay close to all my bluepill friends because it’s their life, and I let them live it. I’m not the authority on their lives, I AM the authority on mine.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[RoninParticipant 128]

Yeah, I would charge the money loaned to the game. There is hope by divine providence he pulls his head from his fourth point of contact.

Listen, and understand! That C-1000 is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!

[joetechParticipant]

Neither a lender nor borrower be.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

DaveV-

Well played. You are an honorable man.
The money may be gone. I lend money to “friends”
but I have never been repaid.
Help him if possible, but consider distancing yourself.

[Russky2Participant 3090]

My friend borrowed money from me three times. Two times I was nice enough to just forget about it. On the third time I got very p~~~ed of and I started calling him every day, telling him he NEEDS to pay me the f~~~ back. WHERE IS MY FRIGGING MONEY BRO? ARE YOU F~~~ING SERIOUS YOU DON”T HAVE IT? I DON”T GIVE A S~~~ YOU HAVE 4 KIDS TO FEEL! PAY ME!

Next time he invites you for dinner, it’s you who is going to forget the credit card. Tell the f~~~ing waiter he promised to pay for the dinner since he owes you so much. Or when nearing the end of the dinner just get up and leave and have him deal with the payment. F~~~ those who don’t pay back. They act like f~~~ing c~~~s. This is one of the lowest thing you can do, is to not repay when you said you would.

MGTOW AKBAR

[jimbob15217Participant 491]

It doesn’t matter what you said to him. The fact that it needed saying at all ought to tell you that your friend is trapped in the blue bubble and may be unable to imagine any other way of life. He’s been grinding it out for too long. IMO preaching anything, including MGTOW ideas, accomplishes very little until AFTER each man sees the light through experience. Just my two cents.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

I love how parasites try to give advice on money matters when they screw everything up for themselves. Why do you want a leech continually around you trying to suck all the blood out of you? Sorry to tell you this DaveV but your friend is not really your friend at all he is just using you and you know it.

Do what you think is best for you but if that person was my friend I would have cut him out of my life right away. I used to give money to friends and relatives over the years and you know what? Not one person paid me back ever and I am not talking about a couple hundred dollars I am talking about tens of thousands dollars. Never again will I make those mistakes and you seem like a smart person you should do the same as well.

[Russky2Participant 3090]

Rhino wrote:

I love how parasites try to give advice on money matters when they screw everything up for themselves. Why do you want a leech continually around you trying to suck all the blood out of you? Sorry to tell you this DaveV but your friend is not really your friend at all he is just using you and you know it.

Do what you think is best for you but if that person was my friend I would have cut him out of my life right away. I used to give money to friends and relatives over the years and you know what? Not one person paid me back ever and I am not talking about a couple hundred dollars I am talking about tens of thousands dollars. Never again will I make those mistakes and you seem like a smart person you should do the same as well.

i 100% AGREE WITH THIS. And if you continue giving him money or listen to this BS then you are an idiot.

Honestly bro it’s time to stop being nice to people. Seriously.

MGTOW AKBAR

[Russky2Participant 3090]

Listen to this man. My friend who borrowed money from me, told me he needs it to feed his kids. He pleaded and so I caved in. Then a day after that he calls me and wants to hang out. Takes me to a casino and says he has a “good” feeling about it. Wastes my money and says he will give it back.

F~~~ this s~~~ man, unless the prick is starving and/or lost everything then there is no f~~~ing need to give them money.

MGTOW AKBAR

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Russky2 wrote:

Honestly bro it’s time to stop being nice to people. Seriously.

I agree. His hard earned money just went down the drain.

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[Russky2Participant 3090]

I don’t even f~~~ing give a cent to a charity motherf~~~ers who try to milk our hard earned money. These morons know that they make you feel ashamed when you say no at a checkout.

Don’t ever lend money again. Never ever ever. It’s your money and not his money. You might as well use it as toilet paper, because as toilet paper it has better use. Seriously bro.

MGTOW AKBAR

[Russky2Participant 3090]

Joey Alfio wrote:

Russky2 wrote:

Honestly bro it’s time to stop being nice to people. Seriously.

I agree. His hard earned money just went down the drain.

He is being WAAYY to nice just letting him go like this. If it was me I would drag him to court. 6-7K is a lot of money and I would fight to get it back. Even a few hundred dollars man.

And then he goes on lecturing him about life. Are you f~~~ing serious?

MGTOW AKBAR

[Russky2Participant 3090]

My only question is WHY did you shake her hand?…

MGTOW AKBAR

[DaveVParticipant 450]

Anonymous wrote:

Jebus on the cross, why’d ya go in for 6000 pounds?

it just accumulated over time. its only when i looked through my statements, that i realized how much. since he was a permanent staff employee I assumed he would pay.

Still, its not the amount that bother me so much. Going MGTOW saved me from being a debt slave. I am grateful for that.

He did help me out a few times (not with money but with time doing odd jobs)

Russky2 wrote:

F~~~ those who don’t pay back. They act like f~~~ing c~~~s. This is one of the lowest thing you can do, is to not repay when you said you would.

I hear what you are saying Russky2, and I know a man’s word is his bond. Not trying to make excuses for him, but he is still blue pill, debt, kids, wife (who can but doesn’t work), and now is going to lose his job. I think though what annoys me is that knowing that he won’t have an income, and can’t pay back what he owes me (yet, if ever) – he wants more. I think that is where I draw the line. Hence why I wasn’t going to kick him more when he was down, but I am not going to take on his debts.

As my father told me, ‘you will enter this world with little, and leave with just as much, the only true thing of value you have in between is your word’.

Rhino wrote:

I used to give money to friends and relatives over the years and you know what? Not one person paid me back ever and I am not talking about a couple hundred dollars I am talking about tens of thousands dollars. Never again will I make those mistakes and you seem like a smart person you should do the same as well.

I hear you. I haven’t loaned money to anyone since. Times are tough for all, and I see things getting harder for people in the coming years.

I did what I thought was right, considering he doesn’t have the money to pay me back (and most probably never will). He is being stupid by being blue pill, but I did what I thought was fair, gave him to option to pay me back when he gets his next job (and I will ask him for it), but I gave him advice, which is the only other thing of real value I can offer him. It’s unlikely his wife will divorce him if he is going to lose his job (in the UK you don’t pay alimony if you have no income, no savings, and no real assets), there is nothing to take off him, other than debt. She may leave him, if she finds another beta with money, but with kids in tow, most guys wouldn’t go near that.

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