Logic vs. Feels.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Faust For Science wrote:

You mistaken believe because your logic invalidated the feelings you previously held that you do not have feelings for your current logic views, with your logic allowing you to justify the feelings you currently hold.

I stand by my statement.

Then I don’t see much danger.

The man logic is stronger then his feelings.
The feelings is not allow to exist unless the logic approves.
That he grew new feelings for the current logic has not much impact because bad actions are filtered out by logic.
When new information came in and the logic change, the logic will divorce the feeling.

The only problem is feelings for the current logic makes it harder to accept new information. But if important / hurt enough men will still process it.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Yeah, the temptation gets to me DAILY. It’s hard to ignore millions of years worth of genetic programming that demands sexual reproduction.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

I consider myself a pretty strong MGTOW, and I feel temptation every once in a while. I’m not even completely opposed to having sex, but I just recognize when it’s a bad idea and avoid it.

As a relief pharmacist who travels and works at various stores, I sometimes work with some attractive women (though most of them are very unattractive). There’s a technician in particular that I work with who tends to be flirty, very attractive (I’ll say around 8.5/10). She even has a seemingly good personality. I have a slight feeling that if I chose to open myself up to her, it’s quite possible that I would screw her.

And quite often, I’m tempted to try. But I never, ever will act on it, and I never will pursue any interaction with her beyond work. It is not only far too dangerous and risky for my job, but she is also married which would make me a Chad.

And if I was in your situation, I think I would have felt very strong temptation. But because of my red pilling, I always remember how many other men these sluts have banged. The thought of sloppy seconds (or thirds, fourths, tenths, twentieths, etc…) tends to be a strong turnoff. If that isn’t enough, maybe think about the STDs you may contract.

I think there are two main elements in maintaining your strength:

One, recognize the consequences of your actions. If you do not screw her, then you have no problems. You win. But if you do, you open yourself to many possibilities. Rape accusations, STD’s, drama with her other boyfriends/husband, losing your job, sloppy seconds, etc…all this to satisfy an urge that could be solved through masturbation or a professional escort, both of which are much safer. Having sex with a random female strongly fails a risk/benefit analysis.

Two, remember who you are. You need no validation from anyone but yourself. Sex is a vessel of validation that you do not need. Society likes to shame men who don’t screw women, calling them names like “gay”, “loser”, or “weird”, which is hilarious because some of the worst losers/creeps get laid all the time due to looks and/or ability to talk bulls~~~, neither of which are valuable for society. MGTOW gets shamed all the time as guys who can’t get laid and make themselves feel better by devaluing sex. But the truth is, there’s nothing to devalue. We simply call it for what it is, a subconscious acceptance of validation which you do not need. Again, fails risk/benefit analysis.

Anyway, stay strong. Sounds like you’re doing good.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Well, it’s kind of like me when I see a woman when I’m out like at the gym for example. I notice she is attractive but my mind goes into computer mode and says not interested she is the same as all the rest and I have no desire to talk to her or anything. I move on and continue my workout without thinking about her. I don’t know if that would be in the same category but that’s how my brain works.

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