Layout of this forum

[KrilloParticipant 18]

Hi all

 

So thread nr 2 that I started is gone. I still get email updates with replys but the post links never works. I filed a bug report, no reply.

I find the graphical layout of this forum… frankly it sucks. I really don’t get all this silly animations and stuff. For me a forum is about the words. The stories, not fancy teenage style graphics. Sorry. I am in agreement of the purpose of this forum, but is pretty user unfriendly.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I saw this message earlier (you mentioned it another thread) Where did you submit a bug report? If you used the contact form I would get that… but you didn’t mention the thread. I can save ANYTHING that was posted – even if it went to “spam” or “pending” but I don’t know the title of it. And if you posted it without a title….. you could miss that .. and it won’t stick. Thanks for telling us! But can you give a clue of what it was called – or ABOUT?? I looked closer into it already but I will scour spam and pending to see if it exists and just didn’t get published.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KrilloParticipant 18]

Hi

 

This is one of the email reply notifications: /forums/topic/living-cheaply-working-from-home/#post-80670

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I have just confirmed there is nothing in trash / spam or “pending” by you. If it doesn’t show immediately, that’s where it would be. Topics contain nothing pending, but I should tell you , I just re-posted (revived) an introduction for another member and I forgot to add the title. just quickly hit “submit”. When I looked to see … it wasn’t there! I completely forgot to fill in the title. I just posted the post quickly and had to go back and do it again.

If we have a problem with something just not showing, it could be our filter throwing it in the wrong status.
But in this case, even the “status” isn’t the problem.

I am required to point out user error is very often a factor…. but I will also be the first to admit when the filter took over.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

A YES!!! !I KNOW THAT THREAD!!!! Check back here in 10 minutes or less. I will update this post on information for you. I know what you’re talking about.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KrilloParticipant 18]

Thanks!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

OK here’s the deal. That thread actually caused a major problem with our database. We experienced a serious “gap” in about 12-20 topics that weren’t assigned to a forum. And we have no idea why. It’s why we had to revert to a JULY 05 10:51 copy of the site on the morning of July 8th. We were up until 8AM trying to figure out WTF happened, but we just couldn’t fix it. Of course this was not your fault.

BUT!!! we have the thread in a “broken” (unsearchable) twin version of this site. We simple HAD to get the forums search feature to work again.

If you go to http://notallwomenarelikethat.com (password protected) you can login using your same credentials because it’s a “twin” site and recover what you posted and post it here again if you like. The thread is still visible over there.

http://notallwomenarelikethat.com/forums/topic/living-cheaply-working-from-home/

If you want to know more about this…. you can read here /forums/topic/threads-lost

We’re very sorry this happened and encourage you to repost if you like. You should know we shut down our forums for several hours – and actually stopped the ability to post and reply while we were working to try and bring back the lost stuff, but too many members were writing in to say “DONT WORRY ABOUT IT!!! JUST OPEN THE FORUMS BACK UP!!” and so that’s why we came up with this Idea to create a twin site for those people who it’s really important to.

At the moment MGTOW.COM is working perfectly and the forums are fully searchable.
Please know that we did our VERY best.

I am very grateful you told us which thread it was, because that’s one of the threads that was “breaking” the forums search here. The search feature would “QUIT” because it got stuck processing it. Completely screwed up and random.

http://notallwomenarelikethat.com/ is a version of MGTOW.COM all the way up to and including 7:30PM on JULY 8TH.

THIS version of MGTOW.com is everything up to and including JULY 05 10:51PM…. and everything AFTER 7:30PM on JULY 8TH.
The in-between stuff is on the twin site if anyone wants it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Krillo,

I’m nobody special here. Just you’re regular MGTOW. One of the guys. I would say that it has been my experience that I have ALWAYS gotten a timely reply from these guys whenever I had a general question or concern (and I have had many). Max  10 min tops (by my count) during even the oddest of hours, AND I’M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD.

It may not be my place to say, but this place is kind of like a second home to some, the hangout for others, and therapy for others yet still. That being said, would you really walk into another mans house, or walk into a free educational institute of higher learning, and then complain about the setup?  Being as graphically intensive and factually extensive as it is, obviously the man hours required to assemble such a site are almost beyond measure.The guys that put this together do so without asking a thing in return. NOTHING. NOT A PENNY, PESO, EURO,DINAR or any kind of Handout. It should go without saying that it would be courteous to remember that. And if not, there is always USENET.

And forgive me if I come of as too bold. Man, I’ve got an itch for protecting my own. It’s nothing personal. Old habits die hard.

 

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[KrilloParticipant 18]

A good thing can be improved, that was all.

[Anonymous 12]

I agree with Krillo actually. Now, I love this site don’t get me wrong. What I am about to say is constructive feedback and observations. The site is very graphic heavy and there seems to be a lot of problems with the site as well including what happened a few days ago when a bunch of threads were “lost”.

Like Krillo I am not that interested in the bells and whistles so for me a regular forum set up would be just as good if not better than the existing one.

With respect,

Morlock.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Like Krillo I am not that interested in the bells and whistles so for me a regular forum set up would be just as good if not better than the existing one.

Well that’s why we provide that for you. See the button on the top left?? “minimize for mobile”?? That is the forum STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX with zero enhancements whatsoever – and works on smart~~~ches all the way up to 5K displays. We provide that for you months ago at the single click of a mouse and your preference remains that way during that entire visit – until you click it again. It also reduces any graphics and avatars down to practically zero ….. and removes the “jumbotron” header image (with replies rotator) entirely.

This gives you exactly the “zero bells and whistles” forum you so desire and prefer.

You’re welcome. It was our pleasure really.

There is not a single forum on the net – certainly not in the Manosphere – that provides you with multiple display modes – expanded and minimized to suit YOUR preference. Not one.

A good thing can be improved, that was all.

No thanks or reply to my detailed explanation? Or reaction to setting up an entire twin site for you to access for the SOLE purpose of preserving your submissions in YOUR best interest? That is incredible.

I am sure you can now understand why we won’t be staying up until 8AM to preserve your thread again.
From now on, Krillo can just expect the odd technical failure and chalk it up to that.
Christ even Google doesn’t have 100% uptime.

360 days straight with no loss of data except for one day 4 months after we were brand new here, and we manage to keep it 100% t~~~ free. But lose a 30 word thread that the user has no intention of thanking you for preserving in the event of an outage and WE can be improved upon?? OK stop. No really. That tickles.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Guy’s …. all you have to do it look. It’s that simple.

It’s just like the t~~~ and white knight buttons.

Just take some time to look through the site first …. like a new car …. it’s different. However, the company has fitted it with a button that makes it your old car.

It’s a wonderful thing ….. like the archive.

No thanks expected but …. some willing self observations would be appreciated.

Knowledge is wealth and education ….. no matrer how small … worthwhile.

So thank you all …. you know who you are ☺

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Krillo wrote:

A good thing can be improved, that was all.

Krillo wrote:

user unfriendly.

Completely disagree.

Don’t fix what aint broken.

Im personally happy with this good website, and if you want it to look worse and be less functional – there is a button for it, as KM mentioned.

 

I personally, enjoy to see what Recent Replay was posted,  it’s not just “teenage graphics”. And it doesn’t distract me from the “words”.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Krillo wrote:

user unfriendly

FullMetalExo wrote:

Completely disagree.

Gee, I didn’t even see that in the beginning.
Is it really “User unfriendly”? Or do we just have unfriendly users.

LOL it’s taken MONTHS but Really glad we created two versions now – one of them being the original with zero enhancements so they can see just how ugly as f~~~ it originally was. And now they can blame BBPress for creating such s~~~. Our asses are covered. We actually went through 8 original test versions before we opened and this was the most full featured with mobile/responsive support. But we will be changing to a new one eventually keeping well ahead of the curve. Have a really nice one in testing for some time now, we will try it as a test version (in probably September) for a day or three but right now we have too much other work to do.

Thanks EXO (I spelled it right this time)

Krillo wrote:

I filed a bug report, no reply.

I would actually like to know where he filed that “bug report”. Nothing came in via the contact form.
The only place we have that ability is at http://mgtow.com/website

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 18]

One thing I do love about this site is the option of browsing with all the bells and whistles. Not just an eye candy but also super functional. Feels like it was designed by same people over at Apple. It’s pretty sick. And I am sorta techy and haven’t come across ANY forum as modern and user-friendly as this.

You guys do a great amount of work and the entire setting up of a twin site for members to preserve their posts was really beyond the call of duty.

Many thanks to KM and everyone else involved in building & maintaining this awesome resource.

[HitmanParticipant]

this website and forum are awesome ! i enjoy all the posts with videos, and the graphics are usually very funny ! rock on mgtow team ! where you gonna get all this ANYWHERE else ?

[Anonymous 12]

@keymaster – So I am an “Unfriendly User” for simply providing some feedback on your site?

This is the second time I am typing this as the first time it didn’t post because I quoted your original text, that happens a lot to me on here. This site for the short amount of time I have been on it seems to experience many technical hiccups and the feedback was simply advising you that it is probably due to it being too complex.

Your site also goes against the usual Forum format of being able to see all latest posts to all threads, so instead of a new response bumping the thread to the top of the list the thread remains in it’s position. I find that odd as well.

I didn’t even know you were an Admin/Mod on here, as far as I can tell so far none of the members have anything that tells me they might be part of the staff, nor does there appear to be a thread explaining anything. I know, I know, I’m just unfriendly, it’s all my fault. There also doesn’t appear to be a PM capability that I have seen.

My criticism of your site was written with respect and because I felt that you should know that your site isn’t that easy to navigate or use. If you want to attack me for that then fine but honestly it doesn’t say much for you at all does it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

@Keymaster – So I am an “Unfriendly User” for simply providing some feedback on your site?

No please. I was referring to Krillo who used the word “unfriendly”. I quoted him directly.

That day I aged a couple of years overnight from stressing out over the “hiccup”. I won’t use it as an excuse but was drinking one white russian after the other when we were back up. If someone is going to kick my leg, Im not gonna just sit there and let them.

The guy started this thread, complained about a feature, gets a detailed solution from me, said we should improve it and then f~~~s off like he doesn’t give a s~~~ in the first place.. and doesn’t care enough to go and get the thread we make available.
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The busy factor here was nice surprise and we moved servers and facilities for new certain features (taking us into Mid June) which have been holding us back on development and new releases. We have much still to build and create to be taking 18 hours out to fiddle with databases.

Anonymous wrote:

I didn’t even know you were an Admin/Mod on here,

You didn’t? There is an “about the MGTOW forums” written by me which should be everyone’s first stop. It’s sticky in MGTOW central and TODAY is the 1 year anniversary of the forums opening.

Anonymous wrote:

Your site also goes against the usual Forum format of being able to see all latest posts to all threads,

Latest topics is visible in “latest topics” (4 buttons at top)

The last 20 replies are visible in the rotator at the top of every window for your convenience with a “view reply” taking you to the reply single. From there, you can see the thread it was a part of. But if any part of the forums are “difficult to navigate” or not traditional enough… the “minimize for mobile” button brings you to a totally stripped down version out of the box. That’s what the forum engine is with no embelishments. We build on top of that and really keep it uncluttered with no ads of any kind.

We got an email submission from a user who suggested creating “the big list” which would be another / EXTRA page to show a cascading list of all of the latest. That was an excellent idea and we are playing with live filtering it so you can really see EVERYTHING at a glance on one page.

There also doesn’t appear to be a PM capability that I have seen.

This has been requested by some , but also shot down by others who don’t want it. We thought of including it anyway for those who do when we add “membership tiers” for guys who want certain advance features. We also want it to be nice looking and fun to use… and have it WORK just right. So its in testing and development and will be added as soon as we can. Just remember this is all above our regular jobs so we can ONLY get to it when we can get to it.

Profiles will be updated with an ability for those users to upload and store stuff, PM and all of that. And we will be moving favorites into that profile as well. So every time you log in you will arrive at your “member homage” that shows your favorites, messages waiting, PMS if any, uploads, site announcements and more.

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@Morlock, the “unfriendly LOL” dismissal was not directed at you. My reply to you directly was the explanation if you want a barebones forum with no bells and whistles, we provided that at the click of a mouse. In the “about the MGTOW forums” into we thank everyone – even the people who criticized. Our visitors spend an average of 12.5 minutes here which is huge and exceeds the others. Those numbers and your experience matter to us.

The average Jezebel visitor doesn’t even spend 5 minutes there, so we’re doing something right.

If anyone wants to add what you don’t like or would like to see better, don’t hesitate! We love user requests. BUT when someone says “I got a problem with it” and we provide a solution and then they act like they don’t give a s~~~…. it TRAINS us not to give a s~~~. I jumped all over Krillo’s comments and assisted whole heartedly. But the sound of cricket’s chirping followed. We don’t ever want to resent making efforts here.

Thank you very much.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 12]

@Keymaster-No worries, I have had my fair share of Forum drama over the years as I have been a Mod and Admin on sites so I still have PTSD at times lol. I wasn’t sure if you were directing your comments at anyone who provides feedback or specifically Krillo (I know you quoted him but I still felt it was directed at me as well).

All good, I’ll keep working my way around the site, there is still of heaps of places and buttons I haven’t hit yet.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Your timing is excellent, we took your request to heart and just created the ability for you to scan the most recent forum posts – including live filtering topics and replies.

See it here http://mgtow.com/recent/

Cheers. And thanks for the suggestion.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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