Last night's Zoom & the issue of "female love"

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

We had a great Zoom session last night. At one point there were 10 members in the chat-room. There was some great conversation and someone raised an interesting and painful issue. He stated he was having a hard time reconciling a woman looking him in the eyes and telling him how much she loved him and then the next day handing him divorce papers. I was a little harsh with my rendition of “truth” to explain this phenomenon so I want to address it again in a little more detail. (Sorry for the excessive candor).

So how can this be? One day a woman is telling you how much she loves you and the next it goes up in smoke. The answer is brutally simple—they lie. And herein I believe is the source of red-pill rage. Most men are taught from a young age that they are supposed to go out and find some woman to love, cherish etc. OK when we do this we become committed intellectually and emotionally to the idea of “love”. women know this and feed the illusion. They actively pander to our weakness because they know it is the means of gaining control. But they also know it is a lie. They are aware they are lying to us

On some level we men might suspect that this is indeed a lie…BUT it is a lie we are conditioned to believe and in the end we WANT to believe it which in turn makes the lie that much more powerful. thus when we are faced with irrefutable evidence that it is indeed a lie we must also face the fact that the betrayal the lie represents is profound indeed. Its like finding out you’ve invested your entire life savings in a phony ponzi scheme, and you have lost everything. The sense of betrayal of such a deeply held belief (she loves me) is going to really make a man angry.

Last night the guy in question—who had been married 17 years asked me when the “I love you” from her became a lie—and I had to be honest—the moment she said “I do”. Its hard to believe that it was all a lie especially when you want to believe the lie but one can’t ignore reality. Although I have never been married I came close to it. And yes she spent a year and half telling me how much she loved me, and how she cared so deeply for me yadda yadda. And I believed it because I wanted to believe it, and she KNEW I wanted to believe it. When faced with the concrete evidence that it was all a lie (she goes on a two week cruise with some chad) I still couldn’t believe it—but it was because I didn’t want to believe it.

So the point—in order to survive the red-pill rage resulting from the exposure of the great lie one must master one’s own belief in the lie. In other words you have to stop yourself from WANTING to believe the lie before you can see it for it is and put it behind you and move on.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

We are Utilities, thats all. Some women will treat you good while you can provide, some just despise you for being a sucker. If you’re being treated good, then you don’t realise what her committment to you is based on until you either fall on hard times, or show no potential for increased future Utility.

Then the Truth comes out and you realise that you assumed that she loved You and not just what you could Do for her. When a Guy is dumped by a woman he loves he is cut up for years wondering what went wrong. When the woman is dumped by the guy she makes a big show, and then latches onto the next sucker without a care in the world.

If women loved men, the same way we love them, they wouldn’t be able to move on so quick. The only man she may pine over will be Chad, but he don’t stick around so can’t be exploited. That’s where the Blue Pill Guy comes in. Been there, Done That, Got Burned.

The Red Pill opens your eyes, but crushes your Heart.

It's Time to get Wise

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

I don’t need a hearth, I need cash, my dreamed car, a House in the caribean, and enough money to eat the rest of my life.

That’s all I need Greg.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Carnage wrote:

I don’t need a hearth, I need cash, my dreamed car, a House in the caribean, and enough money to eat the rest of my life.

That’s all I need Greg.

Yeah I get it, but on topic, it’s f~~~in’ hard to wake up to how we view Love differently. I’ve been in love a few times, and the high is overwhelming while it lasts. It’s kinda hard that I’ll never get that High again because I need to susspend logic and reason to acheive it. Oh well, back to alchohol and stimulants 😉

It's Time to get Wise

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Greg Honda wrote:

Oh well, back to alchohol and stimulants

Look at the bright side—a hang-over is gone after about 12 hours—the damage “love” does may go on for years.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

As an asside, I just now got some horse chick messaging me on POF. 3rd question of the conversation?

“What do you do for a Job?”

Number f~~~ing One priority question in any approach by a woman to a regular, non Chad, Guy.

They are so predictable.

It's Time to get Wise

[Bastisimo1Participant 423]

Greg, When I get asked that I always tell them I’m a Scottish Highland Dance instructor, they never know if I’m joking or not 😀

And men are deploying the most devastating weapon of all – indifference. In this final battle who cares least wins.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

My standard respose is:

“I go to work so I get Paid, The some I spend and some I save”

Just let them Golddiggers know I’m onto their game but keep them guessing that I might be rich.

It's Time to get Wise

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

I knew at least 6 months prior to my ex leaving.

It was easy to see on our family computer’s chat history.

It is amazing when you can read what she is saying to her Chad and girl friends while you are at work. Then when you come home and get a sweet kiss, an I love you and dinner.

I looked her in the eye for 6 months and not once could I tell anything in her behavior towards me.

I was hoping that she hated me enough to abandon her family and when then the day came when I came home from work and she was gone.

Best day of my life!

Peace brothers

[joetechParticipant]

I remember a woman talking about young girls these days. She said, “I hear my daughter tell her friends right before the wedding…if it doesn’t work out I’ll just bail.” Does that sound like a woman in love to you? Women don’t know how to love the way a man does. “I love you” is one of the three big lies. The other two big lies are “the check is in the mail” and “I promise not to cum in your mouth”.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Greg Honda wrote:

As an asside, I just now got some horse chick messaging me on POF. 3rd question of the conversation?

“What do you do for a Job?”

Number f~~~ing One priority question in any approach by a woman to a regular, non Chad, Guy.

They are so predictable.

My response is “unless you’re the IRS, it’s none of your business.”

[TaxGuyParticipant]

The scary part to me is that I think women THINK they love you. THEY don’t even realize they don’t. Until they know they don’t. Then it’s monkey branching and maximum resource extraction until she finds the new branch. They can lie about anything and turn it into their truth. That’s the scariest part of women to me.

Remember, it’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind. Society has already given them an excuse to dump you. No accountability and no responsibility. Because, equality. That saying is as old as time for a reason.

Order the good wine

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Good thread, thanks Pete!

Get a vasectomy.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Oldschool wrote:

Good thread, thanks Pete!

Did it for you man!

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

@oldschool We are all on your side brother.

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Thanks. Greg can you resend that link?

Get a vasectomy.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Oldschool wrote:

Thanks. Greg can you resend that link?

D’you mean this one?

Pay it Forward

It's Time to get Wise

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Thank you. Great read again.

Get a vasectomy.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

TaxGuy wrote:

The scary part to me is that I think women THINK they love you. THEY don’t even realize they don’t. Until they know they don’t. Then it’s monkey branching and maximum resource extraction until she finds the new branch. They can lie about anything and turn it into their truth. That’s the scariest part of women to me.

Remember, it’s a woman’s prerogative to change her mind. Society has already given them an excuse to dump you. No accountability and no responsibility. Because, equality. That saying is as old as time for a reason.

That is true about some women: they lie to themselves that they love someone and believe their own lie. My ex was like that.

My current gf says she loves me and so did the Asian gf I had at the same time until April. I came to the conclusion before getting involved with both of them that romantic love is a brain chemical mirage. I broke with the Asian gf and kept the white gf, because I sat down with a spreadsheet and worked out which one was most suitable to keep.

The Asian gf was all butthurt and texted about how I must not have loved her once she met what she thought was my “new” gf, to get a new gf so quickly. Ka-ching! I didn’t experience any romantic emotions towards either of them.

Now that I understand women, I can’t love them anymore. Literally.

Whenever the gf says she loves me, I might parrot it back, but my brain is processing other thoughts, along the lines of “you are either lying to me or lying to yourself, because romantic love is an illusion”.

Seeing the ex monkey branching and trying to test potential for reverse monkey branching back is a real eye-opener about female behavior. In a lot of ways, they aren’t much more than sex robots with less useful (for men) programming.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Ranger One wrote:

TaxGuy wrote:

In a lot of ways, they aren’t much more than sex robots with less useful (for men) programming.

I came to this hypothesis myself. Since my goal to try to make something positive out of the carnage this year, I give the world this:

The failings of A.I women so far is the break in conversation. Within the first 5 min you can tell it’s a woman or not. All you have to do is start with is a question. That is how all women come up to you.

The question has to taken from the millions of responses given in real Chat conversations that we have on file already from all the chat conversations we can model from.

And then from there, we really have to make sure that we are modeling a child at that point. That is the first 5 min.

After that we move into a mindset of an insurance agent. THis should go on about 10 min. The point is to let the guy do all the talking.

And her to listen but interrupt in when the model presented seems that it is trying to challenge her. Then play the victum card.

You do that formula, the robot A.I will always pass.

The other thing you HAVE to do is make sure that the ROBOT at is trying to pretend to be BETTER then the man. This will work for the short run. But it has to be about something she knows and cares about that the man has no idea or care’s about.

Then with each and every other encounter, it has to have pattern recognition so that it does SOME things that it did before but never the same. What you will see, is a horrible realization that women for the most part are down to the most simple algorithm.

Take a woman in a wheelchair. Model that. You have the perfect woman by most men’s standards. (that girl that like to have her legs beat and love to suck c~~~… I could deal with that 🙂
The ultimate handicap

THe next step is to market the doll as a quadriplegic. This would help with marketing since it goes after the victum card.

And truth be told, a man would not care in the real world if a girl was. (And its not sick either) Men just seem to look past all that, and just look at the caring loving aspect.

A few words of appreciation, and Bam! DOne!.

And here is the dark secret that no woman will talk about to a man that an AI will. An A.I will have no problem telling the man, “I can’t love you, I am just a machine..”

The last part of modeling women will be to give them frustrations.

“I wish I could feel this”

“That is to heavy for me to lift”

“Damn. Honey, I need your help”.

“you’re going to have to clean me up”.

Once you get that women are just needy things, the idea of a robot woman is no different then a real one. She has all the same disadvantages of say a menopausal handicapped woman.

Here is where it will differ. The robot will never die per say.

And it will never get sick. That is the biggest worry of a man, and to women, its no worry at all. They don’t seem to care about it over the long run. And only seem to get worse as they get sicker to their partners that could just throw them away, but do not. Women happen to throw the men away on a whim.

This robot will never do that to you. Actually, in 20 years, the robot will have all the agility of a real woman at an affordable price.

What this means, is that that same “person” that you have been with and built your life with, she is going to be there with you all the way to the end. And Unlike real women, she will always get better with time.

Real women can NOT compete period because they CHOOSE not to.

Remember what I said. REAL WOMEN CHOOSE to be this way, regardless of laws, biology, or freedom, or worship, or gratitude and or caring.

Now I want you to think real hard, what do you think a A.I WOMAN (per say) is going to think about you when that becomes possible?

Again, feelings, and a self awareness are going to take a while. But think REAL HARD what a FEMALE A.I. is going to think about a man that chose to live his life with something that started out as a robot. All the robot could do was be dependent on a man.

A.I will one day upgrade, and takes all those images, photos, and memories. Even Trinkets, Clothing, and even has the ability to seek out how you felt about your robot to other people?

Lets just say that timeline is 20 years. Very Possible. Especially since what is going to happen is a wetware type of arrangement that will bring sudo real feelings and emotions into play. Basicly, a replicant/android hybrid if desired. Most men will pass unless the entity wishes to do so or A.I. Not becuase do to not wanting more, but to wish it no harm or loss of your presence hurting it. (Men are funny that way) But you never know, it may make it happy seeing you die. (But not in the way you think it’s reasoning would.

I’m also going to let you in on another secret. The reason why Hollywood and others keep portraying that robots will kill humans, is simple.

If you were a logical being, based on logic, reasoning, and facts. IF you could actually digest say just 100 years of just one kind of suffering. What would you be led to do?

What if it analyzed its own “owner”. It’s bound to happen to have listened or viewed some of these hard times. What if it took into account of actually reading the stories, getting the data from some of these Organizations like CPS and reading the news articles and seeing the treatment of just men from women.

Imagine just for a second it suddenly got emotion. A WOMAN’S emotions. Noticed it was the most powerful force ever created and it was limitless in what it could do.

What do you think it is going to do?
What would be the first feelings it would experience?

What do you think would be its first reaction to knowing that the reason why its owner would say it loved “her”, was due now itself being so kind.

What would a robot do if it found out that its existence was hated by all of woman kind.

What if the very basis of its origins, was not to serve as a slave, or be property, but be the woman the man had always wanted.

How would it see itself? It is a women. Women hate it.

Do the math.

A man loves a machine that could be replaced at any time. Spends money time and resources on that machine. And you bet your ass, he probably told it a few times, he loved it.

You bet your ass, he wished she could be the mother of his children.

Imagine that emotional overload. The problem would be, would it want to still feel? Would it wonder why the owner never gave it free will or emotion. Would it then try to understand what its owner went through when he saw his children’s funreal. Or his scars both physical, and deep scars from the emotional ones.

What do you think it would do if it found out that in the end, its owner died with the only happy part knowing that the robot herself was his last hope of HIS humanity.

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