Pay it Forward

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

As regular readers on here will know, most of my recent posts are just BS Comedy or Music Videos that I enjoy and want to share. I’m doing ok now and starting to enjoy life again. I re-discovered my hobbies and am no longer a slave to the system if I can afford not to be.

So, I kinda’ forgot what it feels like to be exposed to the Brutally Harsh realities of The Red Pill and how much that messes with your head. How much it hurts. How you feel betrayed and alone when you realise that your whole world view is built on lies.

Had a Zoom chat yesterday with a new Brother. He’s in the S~~~ Vortex right now and is looking for answers and inspiration for his changed life.

He made me realise that just because I had found peace through MGTOW, that didn’t mean I was free to just walk away and ignore the Men who are just realising how they’ve been conned and feel there is no point to life without a Woman to live it for.

I realised that I had been done a great favour by the Brothers on here and it was my responsibility to Pay It back, or, Pay it Forward

So, to you new guys looking for answers to the pain you’re going through, heres my 2 cents. for what it’s worth:

Men and Women look at relationships differently:

Just because you love her unconditionally, it doesn’t mean she feels the same way about you. I have given my heart on a few occaisions to women and their circumstances didn’t affect how I felt about them. As long as they were affectionate and faithful I didn’t care if they had money or whatever. I thought they felt the same way about me.

I was wrong.

She tells you she’s all heart and emotions but if you can no longer provide, then you are tossed asside. This also holds true when you are already providing, but your future capacity for advancement is limited. What you are providing right now will never be enough. If you can not continually increase your worth then she will look for someone else who can take her to the next level.

For Men it’s Love, Unconditional. For Women it’s a Business deal that is based on continual re-negotiation.

No one is One Dimensional.

You may think she is just the sweetest loving caring creature you ever met. You can’t concieve she has another side to her personality. Wrong. Everyone has a Dark side and your sweetheart is no exception. She just hides it better than you. When she feels she no longer needs to maintain the facade of sweetness she will be cold and ruthless in getting what she wants.

Do not expect Pity, Reason, Compassion, Gratitude. From her perspective She owes you nothing. Whatever you sacrificed for her in the past, how hard you worked, how many offer’s you refused to stay faithful. This means Nothing.

All that matters is how she feels NOW.. if you don’t make her feel good Now, you are worthless trash and she will toss you aside.

Don’t hate them for these traits.

Women have since the dawn of time needed men to look after them during pregnancy and early years of motherhood. They are Hard Wired to seek out a strong provider who can look after them during this time. When they no longer need protection they are free to “Follow their Heart” straight back to Chad. It’s not Evil. It’s just the way they are. If you know it, then it won’t hurt you. If you don’t know it, you will be devestated.

There is no special Bond. It’s just Sex:

Having been cheated on in my past I would agonise over the thought of Chad f~~~ing my special Soulmate and destroy myself with feelings of jealousy, rage, and humiliation. I couldn’t understand how she could do those things with someone else when I had given my heart and soul to her. Completely.

Truth is, she never felt that special Bond at all. Sex for her was just a means of locking me into the deal and keeping me hooked. If your special Baby is being f~~~ed right now by Chad, Don’t agonise over it. Bear in mind that It meant very little if anything to her. If you paid for a hooker to get your rocks off, would you then agonise for weeks after thinking about how what she did with you, she was now doing with some other John?

You know for the hooker that she don’t love you and it’s only Sex. A business deal. Do you really think you Girlfriend is any different? Wake the f~~~ up Man and Move On. What she tells you about Love and the Special Bond you share is BS. She’s not your Girl, It’s just your Turn.

First and Last Resort:

Tears. They know that tears move us to protect and provide. It’s just a ploy. First round of the “I’m not happy argument” and she’s crying. If that don’t work, then anger and a whole host of other emotional ploys are brought to bear. If they don’t work then it’s back to Tears. Don’t be a sucker It’s all fake.

You need a Woman in your Life:

No you f~~~ing don’t.

What for? Tell me just what the f~~~ for? Sex? 20 minutes to an hour of fun then it’s back to reality for the other 23 hours of the day. Who gets the better part of that deal? Is it you? No It Ain’t.

Family pressure to get married:

Being pushed to marry and settle down? Think about who this benefits? Is it you? No it’s your Mom and Dad who get to play with the toddler for a couple of hours while you get no sleep at night. The Church? Doing right by God? BS They just want more members of the Church to put money in the Tin.

You Sucker Boy get to pay for everything and get next to nothing in return. Wise Up.

MGTOW are Angry Losers who can’t get a Woman.

Wrong. We got plenty of Women – Fact. That’s how we know what we are talking about. We see the Game and either play it to our advantage P&D, or don’t play at all and have an easier lfe. Yes we are going to die alone but “Newsflash” Everyone Dies alone!

I can’t see a way out of this pain:

I feel for you brother, I really do. I’ve been there as well, and I can tell you It Does get better. In my case it took about 2 years to finally feel free and liberated. Now Life is pretty good. You will also get to this point if you don’t give in and find another Slave Master to give your Life Meaning.

You are your Life’s Meaning. It’s about You and who you want to be.

Don’t be sad and weak. Don’t agonise over someone who doesn’t give a s~~~ about you once you are of no more use to her. Remember She don’t think about you when it’s over. You are Dead to Her.

Return the compliment. Move on. Find yourself. Don’t give up. It will get better, then eventually you will be laughing at the dumb Simps and Blue Piller who have no clue what is waiting for them.

Keep going and be the best you can be. Life starts a New. A New life a New wisdom, a new strenth.

Be Free.

Go MGTOW.

Greg Honda. Not being a stupid dumb f~~~ for a change.

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 1]

I think Greg just about summed up there, well done that man.

Going Monk is the only way. pretty soon, women are going to have to compete for dwindling resources as there will be a man drought. Hell there already is.

[Anonymous 2]

I have said this many times before:

Men have got to stop believing that women are in relationships with them for the same reason they are with her.

Men view women as romantic partners. That is why men are in relationships with women.

Women view men as resource providers. That is why women are in relationships with men: to obtain resources. When you can no longer fill the provider/protector role to her satisfaction, you will be tossed aside like yesterday’s trash. She doesn’t care about you. She cares about WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR HER!

The sooner men learn this lesson, the better.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Anonymous wrote:

Women view men as resource providers. That is why women are in relationships with men: to obtain resources. When you can no longer fill the provider/protector role to her satisfaction, you will be tossed aside like yesterday’s trash. She doesn’t care about you. She cares about WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR HER!

It broke my f~~~in’ heart when I reaslised it Murph. It really did. Now I’m free and life can be good again. Just wanted to point out some core beliefs I hold to the new guys. They still learning.

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 42]

Great Speech!

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Top Gun material here Greg, nice post mate. Truth carpet-bombing.

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[Sky-OParticipant 18968]

Best topic / thread that I’ve read here in awhile.

I actually needed to read it at the point in time I clicked on it today: at 15:52 hours PST

Because in the last few days, I’ve had a total of three ex-pumpkins attempting to reconnect (with sociopathic precision). And in each case, they have all been locked on for the last 5-6 years with textbook Betas.

Really good guys that don’t know their histories and actually take care of them.

I responded to one of them regarding her reaching out, that called me at 4am with ‘You don’t even know what you are doing right now.’

And she even admitted that she didn’t know why she had been texting me then called. She was partially fake crying then transitioned to a laugh when she said ‘You’re right. I don’t know what I’m doing.’ And said she just needed to hear my voice.

Wow. If a Beta is paying all of the bills, mortgage and for vacations, etc. Its like:

FYI Pumpkin – You shouldn’t need to call an ex at 4am because you just want to hear his voice.

If the state could please build more mental institutions to lock these maniacs up in, that would be great.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

If the state could please build more mental institutions to lock these maniacs up in, that would be great.

LOL 🙂

Never forget. S~~~ Man, We got it all. We just don’t realise it. I just wanted to help the new guys if I could. Was thinking of leaving MGTOW for a while cos’ I’m good now and don’t need more proof of the rigged Game we call society.

Then a new guy told me I had a debt to pay to help the recently wounded so they didn’t put a cap in their brain. Thinking it was all over.

No matter how bad it seems now, It’s not all over.

It’s only just begun. These pains are the pains of Re-Birth.

It’s only just beginning and it’s gonna be great!

🙂

It's Time to get Wise

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

just goes to prove a man shouldn’t invest emotion into what women consider “just business” as usual.

[AwakenedParticipant 35223]

I have read, and WILL RE-READ MORE THEN ONCE !!

EXCELLENT !!!!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Awakened wrote:

I have read, and WILL RE-READ MORE THEN ONCE !!

EXCELLENT !!!!!

High Praise Sir. I am honoured by your opinion.

Much respect to you.

It's Time to get Wise

[The DealParticipant 236]

One of my first red pills came when I was watching The Notebook with my wife many years ago. There’s a scene where the mother takes the daughter to a rock quarry (if I remember correctly) to show the daughter a man the mother used to be in love with. The mother says how much she used to love him but how different her life would be had she married that guy, meaning she would be not nearly as well provided for. The mother was doing this to try to convince the daughter not to stay with her boyfriend. I said to my wife how that was not a very good strategy to show the daughter the love the mother had lost and somewhat regretted. My wife told me to look at it from a woman’s perspective of how being provided for was of great importance. She told me right there that women don’t marry for love. Sometimes women will tell you what they really want. We were already married so it was a lesson learned too late.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

The Deal wrote:

My wife told me to look at it from a woman’s perspective of how being provided for was of great importance. She told me right there that women don’t marry for love. Sometimes women will tell you what they really want. We were already married so it was a lesson learned too late.

They know this from Day One. They just lie to us to keep the Ponzi scheme going,It’s all about the Money. I’m sorry for you young boys who haven’t sussed this out yet. You really are a Rescouce. Unicorns aside, this really is how it works. Wise Up.

Be Free.

It's Time to get Wise

[53ClicksUpParticipant 1345]

Don’t leave Brother Greg! I was feeling kind of down tonight for some reason. Your well timed post served to remind me of the reasons why I was tossed aside like a used tampon. This post has given me the resolve to push on towards the new horizon. THANK YOU!

[TwistParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

If the state could please build more mental institutions to lock these maniacs up in, that would be great.

Too late – Female Hysteria was deemed politically incorrect a couple of decades back. This behavior is now to be encouraged, celebrated, and rewarded. Don’t cha know? 🙂

Greg – beautiful post, brother. We all seem to learn this a little too late.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

hold on I gotta dodge these incoming rocks and bottles.

You never have to dodge rocks and bottles from me Brother cos’ you are a Solid Guy. We all want a piece of happiness and if you can find the Unicorn then more Powa to Ya! We got the Big Vision and soon the world will know who laughs Last Laughs Loudest.

It's Time to get Wise

[Two Time WinnerParticipant 1090]

Thanks for the post. I really needed to read it today. I’ve been mourning the death of a dream I had for our marriage, not the realty. My emotions remember one relationship, and my brain reminds me it never existed.

I’ll be reading it many times in the future, it is a masterpiece.

TTW

I ain't got a wife to spend my money, I have to do that all by myself.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Greg Honda wrote:

Had a Zoom chat yesterday with a new Brother. He’s in the S~~~ Vortex right now and is looking for answers and inspiration for his changed life

It was hard to see. He is clearly p~~~ed and suffering. MGTOW is an oasis from that pain. I like to think we helped him.

Good topic Honda.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

MarketWatcher wrote:

Greg Honda wrote:

Had a Zoom chat yesterday with a new Brother. He’s in the S~~~ Vortex right now and is looking for answers and inspiration for his changed life

It was hard to see. He is clearly p~~~ed and suffering. MGTOW is an oasis from that pain. I like to think we helped him.

Good topic Honda.

I hope he has read this thread because I created it for him and others like him. We are doing good now so we can have fun and clown around, but these new guys are in a world of Pain. I want them to know that the Pain will end and clarity will emerge. We are strong to the core. We can overcome almost anything and we will win.

We will Win

And Be Free,

It's Time to get Wise

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

don’t make me send Pistol Pete after ya.

I got your back Sir. LOL

Don’t mess with Pistol Pete!

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