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Sidecar – His religious position is that he gets to cram his proselytizing religious dogma down my throat ad infinitum. Maybe that does not rate as religious swill in your books…. Ok have fun with that. If he acts like a s~~~ty diapered baby should I call him an infinitely majestic, divine and graceful angel? Or maybe I should call a spade, a spade…..? How is realistically describing what he’s doing even “name calling”? It’s not as if there is any question what his stance, motives, or attitude are, he’s made them abundantly clear. If a man comes along and s~~~s on your lawn, don’t you talk about that guy who came and took a s~~~ on your lawn when you bring it up in conversation? How else could it be properly described?
Redpillbible – I can only surmise that you and I live in radically different universes that are only connected by the internet.
Rhapsodysparadox wrote:
But at what point does it become a biased shelter for immaturity? A condoning of infantile behavior if you will? Is this Men Going Their Own way (MGTOW), or Boys Going Their Own way (BGTOW)?
I would expect that from a woman, who PRETENDS she is some authority on “maturity”.
It’s the laziest s~~~ anywhere and we’re not falling for it.Bring a SPECIFIC EXAMPLE here and SHOW how it is “immature”. Bring us a single video, audio, quote, poster, or article that qualifies as a “childish tantrum” of “boys going their own way” and make an effort to show how it is “immature”. That’s the LEAST you can do.
It’s OK, we’ll wait.
Any time you’re ready.
If you try push a man around enough…. eventually, “around” becomes “away”.
KeyMaster – Ive got nothing better to do than live according to your personal time table, that I could not possibly know the expectations thereof.
You want examples, how about “MGTOW Age”
When I gave him the option to grow up or be ignored he told me to “p~~~ off”!
You gave me two choices…..and I decided to listen to myself instead of what you were telling me to do. As for your other points in this thread, I already gave it my best shot on trying to explain myself to you. If my effort did not meet your expectations, I really do not know what else I could do to satisfy you now….yet, once again, I am still trying to.
I have not called you one name, and how many in this thread alone, are you calling me? Let us not forget, you are using me as your first example. So, once again you are personally attacking me, even after you said you would ignore me, if I didn’t grow up. I said p~~~ off, and did not try to engage with you after….until now.
Why am I now? Because once again you are calling me out? Just like in your other thread you referenced, and you called me out in that one as well. unless KeyMaster requests me to, I will not post in this thread again.
Bring a SPECIFIC EXAMPLE here and SHOW how it is “immature”.
By definition I have to use an example……….
Why do people who are in a hole always dig it deeper?
Or is it only certain people?
His religious position is that he gets to cram his proselytizing religious dogma down my throat ad infinitum.
Why do you care? I cannot see what that would matter to you unless you have your own dogmatic position to promote.
I don’t agree with some of the religious positions I’ve seen on these forums, but as they are largely irrelevant to the material of these forums, Men Going Their Own Way, I don’t concern myself with them either. Or consider them when I’m reading anything else, anything more pertinent, they might have to say.
In other words, you’re taking irrelevant things personally. That’s never a good idea.
Of course all this is largely immaterial to my main point:
Does it not behoove us as Men, to act like Men? With all the civility, and decency one might expect from a mature adult?
LIKE I’VE GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PANDER TO A S~~~TY DIAPERED BABY,
You are trying to call out men to act like men while you, yourself are not living up to that high standard.
Whyever would you do that?
When I talk about “checking out of this chicken s~~~ outfit” How am I in any way referring to a person such that it can be interpreted as a personal attack? (and in case you were wondering no I was not talking about MGTOW)
My post:
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Every time it has happened that a woman has walked into me, they were so surprised that they didn’t know what to say. You only have to worry about sexual harassment if they have time to think.
But frankly I am at a point of my life where if a stupid bitch wants to make a big fuss like what you are describing, well I might as well check out of this chicken s~~~ outfit. I got nothing to loose but tyranny in that case.
But then again they will “intuit” that about you. They will gauge your weakness or lack thereof; one thing at least women are good at doing. That’s why its practically unheard of for them to be going after those men who they know are trouble. (At least that’s my experience)
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In his reply he stated “don’t try to cram that weak ass s~~~ in my face” Ok where the hell am I even implying that he has to believe as I do? I thought I was engaging in a civil point/counterpoint discussion……
As well as “As for a personal comment from me, who the f~~~ are you to call me a chicken s~~~”. Obviously I’m not unless somehow you yourself are the chicken s~~~ outfit I would be checking out of…..? How is that even possible?
“and to shame me, and come at me like I am weak for doing my own thing? NO, really?? Who the f~~~ are you & what makes you even think you have the damn right???” Ok where the f~~~ am even remotely trying to do any of that? I’d really like to know…..
I only did this because by definition of providing examples I simply had to.
An error just happened and it’s entirely my fault. Allow me to explain. I accidentally clicked “EDIT” instead of “REPY” to Paradox’es lengthy post. When I was done replying, I was confused because I just wrote it….. but the author was still Paradox! Weirded me out. So I changed the author to myself. THEN I realized what I had done.
That post by Paradox is now restored, re-attributed to the author and my response is below.
Apologies if this confused anyone, but I assure you it confused the s~~~ out of me even more.••••••••
KeyMaster – Ive got nothing better to do than live according to your personal time table
Sarcasm is the last refuge of the imaginatively bankrupt. I attend to +300 emails & requests per day and never ONCE responded with s~~~ like that. Before I give a s~~~ about responding to your “childish whiny bitch boy” accusations, you are REQUIRED to do more than type it out. You could have taken an entire week if you needed it.
You want examples……
Only ONE.
how about “MGTOW Age” claiming to in his words
You addressed the site and an entire population of individuals.
You have an issue with ONE individual, you take it up with that individual.You can’t get away with those “childish / immature / whining / whiny bitches / grow up / man up” accusations here. They FAIL. On the spot. You can’t just “type” it and expect others to “prove” they are not immature whiny bitches. FACT: you’re not entitled to a response at all. “P~~~ off” is a perfectly acceptable response – whether it’s warranted or not.
“Grow up or be ignored” DESERVES a response like “p~~~ off”. It’s BEGGING for it.
I made this forum post to illustrate the tendency to forget the fact that there is still a need, perhaps more dire than ever, to temper ourselves in the process of understanding ourselves. Or else degenerate into the exact same whiny bitches we’re trying to get away from.
This statement has been made (and responded to) here before ad nauseam and a simple forums search for “whiny bitches” will bring up responses to that. You make a mistake in thinking MGTOW are not “tempering themselves” because plenty of them have been dragged through the f~~~ing mud and have arrived here at the end of their virtual ropes. ONE POST away from suicide.
THE LAST thing to do to a MGHOW is call him a “whiny bitch”. You don’t do it. No matter what…. you don’t do it. It’s universally understood. The “whining bitch” feminists do not have to deal with having their futures destroyed on a whim – because of a LIE. Whining bitch feminists are never ordered to pay child support for children that are not theirs. Whining bitch feminists don’t have to deal with having their children permanently stolen from them – never to be seen again.
You don’t call MGTOW “whiny bitches”. EVER.
I ask you: What good does it do to separate ourselves from “the ball and chain”, only to become the exact same kind of irrational, needy, self absorbed, childish creature that we hate? What, you think you’re incapable of acting like them just because your junk is different?
Do you even THINK before running your mouth? “Because our JUNK” is different”?? The entire way a man is expected to navigate the road of LIFE is different.
And you reduce down it to his JUNK????????
everyones immediate response was to assume that it was some kind of personal assault.
This message is addressed to me so I will respond. I didn’t assume anything. I entirely dismissed it (and your condescending tone) altogether until you provided ONE reasonable point that shows how MGTOW are throwing “childish tantrums” and are all “Boys going their own way”. I waited for you to show it before giving it a second thought. I didn’t take it as an assault. I interpreted it as nothing. No more than the ramblings of someone who didn’t think before typing.
As of the moment of my writing this reply, only one of you even bothered to investigate why I might be saying what I’m saying: “Soldier-Medic”
He was being generous. I wasn’t going to bother with you or “investigate” jack s~~~ until you produced at least one example that justifies “immature” accusations like those you opened with.
In the future you might consider asking questions, instead of making assumptions.
Riiiiiiiight. So we’re making progress here.. and the day’s not a TOTAL loss.
Mind if I don’t ask any questions and just type “you’re an immature & childish whiny bitch?”Now about the issue of maturity, what does it entail?
Tempering and refining ones self, including the intellect, ones own patience… so on and so forth.Patience. Tempering. Subdue that man. Drug that boy. “Calm down”. “Settle down”. “Quiet down”. Allow me to treat you like s~~~ and then imagine your own reaction when I tell you to have patience and temper yourself. Patience ran out before half these men got here. They are DONE. There is no patience for this kind of s~~~.
THERE IS NO PATIENCE TO BE HAD for “you childish immature whiny bitch boy going your own way”.
The patience for that is GONE. You’re in the lions den. You don’t train him to “temper” himself. He’s sick of that already. Have you ever been brought to that level before? Have you any idea what it is like to be at the f~~~ing end of your rope? To be at the point where you simply cannot fall off the floor anymore? To have your patience repeatedly whittled out of you until their isn’t any left. I hope you never get there. I really do.
I listened to MGTOW Messenger’s personal story as he told it to me. 10 years of his life turned into a living hell. Months in prison for nothing but the whim of a female who didn’t even accomplish anything except to make him miserable and ruin his life. I never experience exactly that, but I have been to the end and back. If I had called him a “immature whiny bitch” for that ….. it would have done him in.
Disagree. Feud. Argue. Shoot flaming arrows if you like. They can take it.
But try the “you’re an immature whiny little child bitch boy”……. and a response like “p~~~ off” is actually being POLITE.You should be THANKING him.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Ok sidecar, let’s use a more fitting description. Let’s say you’ve got this lawn in front of your house that you like to take care of and feel a sense of pride in it’s well being. Then an arsonist comes along with a bottle of butane, pours it out on your lawn, and sets it on fire…. you’re not going to care? You would have no feelings about it at all? If you were to report the incident of arson to the police, would you call it anything other than a case of arson, and the guy who did it anything other than an arsonist? If so I’d really like to hear what you would call him….. ? Are you a robot, or is there some profound inability to understand my position? Not once did I ever say he could not have his beliefs, and make his own forum posts about them. He came to “my” forum post and kept spewing his religious dogma and trying to proselytize to me, in a post where I am making myself vulnerable, (in other words taking advantage of my state of vulnerability to promote his religious viewpoint in a manner in which he expects me to accept his beliefs, as defined by the word proselytize….) and trying to talk about & share my personal pain…. If you think it’s right for him to do that, just go to hell…… If you think that I’m immature for feeling this way then its official, we simply live in radically different realities……
Ok sidecar, let’s use a more fitting description. Let’s say you’ve got this lawn in front of your house that you like to take care of and feel a sense of pride in it’s well being. Then an arsonist comes along with a bottle of butane, pours it out on your lawn, and sets it on fire…. you’re not going to care? You would have no feelings about it at all? If you were to report the incident of arson to the police, would you call it anything other than a case of arson, and the guy who did it anything other than an arsonist? If so I’d really like to hear what you would call him….. ? Are you a robot, or is there some profound inability to understand my position? Not once did I ever say he could not have his beliefs, and make his own forum posts about them. He came to “my” forum post and kept spewing his religious dogma and trying to proselytize to me, in a post where I am making myself vulnerable, (in other words taking advantage of my state of vulnerability to promote his religious viewpoint in a manner in which he expects me to accept his beliefs, as defined by the word proselytize….) and trying to talk about & share my personal pain…. If you think it’s right for him to do that, just go to hell…… If you think that I’m immature for feeling this way then its official, we simply live in radically different realities……
To be fair, he never told you what to do. He just told you how he views life. You are on KEYMASTERS “public” forum, NOT YOURS. This is not your lawn. People can say anything they want, and thing is, he NEVER attacked you. He never shoved anything down your throat. He actually encouraged you.
When you make a forum post, people are going to “come to you”, and put THEIR F~~~ING OPINIONS that are based on THEIR F~~~ING BELIEFS.
Why don’t you attack the others for shoving NONRELIGIOUS VIEWPOINTS “down your throat”? That’s what they are right? Or is their something else you’d call them? If so I’d really like to hear what you would call them….’.
You came up with this “respect the spirit of life” explanation in your introductory post. Your comeback for his viewpoint WAS ANOTHER VIEWPOINT.
If I said, “I’ll pray for you”, would that p~~~ you off?
are you a chia pet in man drag Keymaster – this post “@Rhapsodysparadox Still waiting for that ONE example of “immature and infantile” for an hour now. Need more time? No problem. Will give you another 23 hours before reminding you. Take your time. No pressure at all……..”
Made it sound like you were expecting me to attend to your time table, and also sounded like you were begging so hard for sarcasm, I felt obligated to oblige.
“Grow up or be ignored” DESERVES a response like “p~~~ off”. It’s BEGGING for it.” – Like I said before it sure looked as if MGTOW Age was trying to bait me into a flame war, what should I do engage in a shouting match with him, when he clearly does not care what I say? Other than that my only other option is to ignore him….
“Patience. Tempering. Subdue that man. Drug that boy. “Calm down”. “Settle down”. “Quiet down”. Allow me to treat you like s~~~ and then imagine your own reaction when I tell you to have patience and temper yourself. Patience ran out before half these men got here. They are DONE. There is no patience for this kind of s~~~”.
Oh I get it, you are fantasizing that you can cut the women out of your lives, and not care at all about bettering yourself…. AND NEVER AGAIN FALL INTO ANOTHER COGNITIVE TRAP LIKE THE ONE YOU JUST ESCAPED FROM……………….
I absolutely NEVER said or implied that a man sharing his personal experiences was whining, or bitchy etc… This is a case of conformation bias; YOU ARE SEEING WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE AND NOTHING ELSE!!!!
Oh but wait, I’m in the loins den, that’s scary…. On anything you any of you would call your worst day I could toss a dozen of you around like rag dolls without breaking a sweat!
But I see now, you don’t care about doing the right thing (obviously we have completely differing opinions as to what a “right” thing is) and no I don’t think doing what society specifically expects of a man is the “right” thing you idiots!
Yeah I’ve seen everything I need to see; I’m done with you.
Yeah I’ve seen everything I need to see; I’m done with you.
HOLY F~~~ING S~~~! WE LOST SOMEONE WHOS VALIDATION WE REALLY NEEDED- oh wait.
We didn’t start s~~~. You did. All you got were kind words until you started f~~~ing with people.
By the way, you can’t make an accusation without PROOF. Any logical rational man knows this. What Keymaster said was legitimate.
If you make an accusation WITHOUT PROOF or without an example, WITHOUT COLD HARD FACTS, don’t expect s~~~. Go on and get the f~~~ outta here with that bulls~~~, if you really are going.
are you a chia pet in man drag It’s one thing for sure to understand the detrimental and harmful effects of man shaming; and that it is necessary to constructively deal with said deleterious conduct. But at what point does it become a biased shelter for immaturity? A condoning of infantile behavior if you will?
Is this Men Going Their Own way (MGTOW), or Boys Going Their Own way (BGTOW)?Spoken like a bugged out land whale in a coffee shop.
Somebody get the flyswatter.
But I see now, you don’t care about doing the right thing
WHAT?
F~~~ you. “The right thing” to do is to insist you back up your otherwise empty typed words before responding to them. …. just because you’re “kinda wondering” is really not reason enough.
Yeah I’ve seen everything I need to see; I’m done with you.
You think you’re the first bitch who flipped her hair, turned around and stomped off after demanding attention? I already pulled $ 20 out of my pocket and bet myself you would do that. That’s WHY I originally responded that way. “Sorry not falling for it. It’s lazy. You’re gonna have to do better than that”.
That’s like a bitch in heat storming into a room full of men who don’t pay enough attention to her…. then she shouts “WHAT ARE YOU ALL GAY???”…… then she turns around and tells herself SHE is doing the “rejecting”.
+1 for the litter box. Take care honey.
To be clear, I don’t ACTUALLY think you’re female. But you sure as f~~~ behave like one.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I wasn’t gonna post in this thread again, but @keymaster, I just wanted to say thank you. I have read my posts in his other thread over & over. I kept thinking I went overboard & didn’t handle right. I wanted to get it sorted with him, but after he said grow up or he would just ignore, that was no longer an option…if it even ever was, on trying to sort it with him. So yeah, p~~~ off was all I could muster at that point, and have been on the fence with that comment since.
Again, thank you, I was trying to be polite at that point.
Thank you to everyone else that posted in this thread as well.
Will do my best to absorb the wisdom as well as the example set.MGTOW is a positive experience, and involves men taking responsibility for their lives. The childish tantrums I see are coming from the rabid feminists who demand men to DO SOMETHING FOR THEM. To me, after the catharsis of ranting about bad relationships with women, I’m left with wondering what I’m going to do with my life and what choices would be best for me. And these choices don’t require women’s consent or changes in their behavior. Why should we care about mainstream media ASSumptions about us? They often embellish reports for ratings. We’re living honestly and enjoying our freedom and the prosperity that comes from not wasting money on ungrateful women. If the rest of our society can’t see the value of that…so be it. They can have their matrix.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
If you think it’s right for him to do that, just go to hell
We are not discussing him or what he did or said. If we were, I would be taking it up with him.
We are discussing you and what you said. In this thread. So I am taking it up with you. In this thread. Do you understand how that works?
If you think that I’m immature for feeling this way then its official, we simply live in radically different realities……
We are not discussing your feelings. That is your business entirely.
We are discussing how you expressed yourself and expressed your feelings. Do you understand the difference? It’s a matter of behavior and, quite honestly, calling your behavior in this very thread “immature” is a huge understatement.
Children and most women try to use their feelings as an excuse for their behavior. Men do not. Men try to behave based on their intellect. When a man relates his behavior to his feelings it’s only ever as part of an apology.
You do not appear to be apologizing.
Please enlighten me when this mythical age is when I should grow up?
You don’t know.
Just a term c~~~s use to get us to get married, get our wallets and give up our cool stuff.
Fuck this planet.I was actually quite intrigued by some of his points and wanted to debate Rhapsodys here I found this part of what he said in his second post quite intriguing and wanted to hear more about it:
“Consider how foolish it is to allow ones self to be used by the gynocentric social construct. Maybe humanity fell into that foolish way of being because they lacked the maturity, intellect, presence of mind, etc… to realize it was a bad idea to begin with? Guess what’s going to happen to you if you don’t do something about all this folly that’s been fostered by humanity for all these years. You will free yourself from one cognitive prison, only to fall right back into another one. I guarantee it. The underlying habits formed in that old prison will make it inevitable, unless they change. Nobody is going to make that kind of change in their lives without immense discipline, and forethought”Well if he is still here this is my take on it, I agree that if you don’t understand and change the underlying habits that made you fall into the cognitive prison (Women in this case) in the first place then there is a great risk of falling into another one again and that is something every individual would have to look out for if they didn’t want to be in a cognitive prison in the first place. Though that is not up to to anyone to bring that to light and shouldn’t have to be forced down someone to be a MGHOW it is up to the MGHOW if he wants to change or not.
But for those who do want to change there are some great videos and people out there addressing problems some MGHOW have while trying to be a MGHOW from for example stardusk.About the Cognitive prisons, would you mind describing the term Cognitive prison for it wouldn’t really have much of a meaning right now besides being imprisoned aka stopped from certain actions by your own brain against your will (example someone can’t help but want to have sex with women and has a hard time staying away thus to get it he doesn’t do fun things with his friends cause she doesn’t want him to) at least that is the only example I can think off and I don’t think prison would be the right term for it correct me if this example doesn’t work for the term you meant but for now I’m working with it.
That example I just made would be more accurately described by inability to accurately asses worth due to an emotion, most likely carried over from the environment aka indoctrination..This would mean in turn that the supposed “Underlying habits” you speak off would be accepting a majority opinion from your environment and making it your own, Compartmentalizing your opinions a short description of this would be “Keeping opinions or thoughts from being connected to avoid cognitive dissonance/ contradiction” To elaborate I think this would be one of the behaviors that made you think of a cognitive prison because this stops you from ever logically connecting problems making your thoughts unable to connect the problem to the solution due to having your problem compartmentalized and not seen as a problem like in the example given the subject would think a relationship is good and not connect it to the rest of his values like “friends are important” due to it being compartmentalized.So to conclude though I agree that you would fall from one problem into the next if you don’t attempt to prevent yourself from being indoctrinated and actively look out for compartmentalized thoughts in an attempt to create one cohesive mind I don’t think the way you named it would really do the problem honor and though not saying you have a responsibility to I think it would have helped a lot if you had elaborated on the problem you wanted to discuss or address.
Again correct me if I’m wrong on any of this I would love for some civilized debate heated or not with a pinch of insult in there just to make it tastier though I don’t mind putting it in the microwave to heat it up a little.
Anonymous29DRS_au – “Oh I see . . . . . . f~~~ I was blind but now I see the light. You do want us to join MRA or some such eh ?” Like it or not MGTOW is going to come into the view of the mainstream society with ever increasing regularity.
It’s been there for at least a decade, nothing new there.
When “society” sees MGTOW, do you want them to see something that conforms to the lies they’ve been told about us, or do you want at least the possibility of coming off as something other than a radical bunch of half-crazed woman hating misfits?
That is exactly as they see us right now.
Like it or not, societies impression of MGTOW will affect MGTOW.
Only if we fail to follow MGTOW philosophy.
You fail to understand why the backlash at you post even if meant well. We are not, nor do we want to be pro-active in any shape or form. To engage the media in any of it’s current form’s would and will be detrimental to MGTOW. How can you expect to go to a f~~~ing card table Knowing that the stack has been rigged ? You would be exposing MGTOW to the same old vitriol, bulls~~~ and lies that have been told about us already.
It will get worse, but that is to be expected. The only thing that is in our favor at the moment is that we are not the flavor of the month in the media and staying out of their sight is the best thing for us. We need to grow in numbers and when the number is so f~~~ing big and can not be ignored any more
by social dynamics and economy, we will tell them, “you can come to our table, on our terms or f~~~ off”
In essence: we need time, we need numbers and we need the cream to rise to the top. And from that pool of men wiser than me, they will tell them of MGTOW philosophy and why we chose to go our own way.Here is a link that may enlighten you. Pay attention and take your time.
I was actually quite intrigued by some of his points and wanted to debate Rhapsodys here I found this part of what he said in his second post quite intriguing and wanted to hear more about it:
Well, you still can. It’s not like he’s blocked or anything. Fire away.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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