Kinda wondering

[RhapsodysparadoxParticipant 26]

In my short time as a member of https://www.mgtow.com I have seen some rather interesting things. I’d like to, in good humor make a proposal, a sort of postulation if you will. One that certainly only applies to a small, yet vocal minority here.

“There is nothing like a man going his own way, one childish tantrum at a time”.

I ask in jest, is that statement irony, a paradox, or man hating?

It’s one thing for sure to understand the detrimental and harmful effects of man shaming; and that it is necessary to constructively deal with said deleterious conduct. But at what point does it become a biased shelter for immaturity? A condoning of infantile behavior if you will?

Is this Men Going Their Own way (MGTOW), or Boys Going Their Own way (BGTOW)?

Does it not behoove us as Men, to act like Men? With all the civility, and decency one might expect from a mature adult?

MGTOW is often dismissed by the mainstream media as nothing more than a gaggle of malcontents, too cowardly to “Man up”, and do what society expects of them.

While I certainly would never advocate conforming to societies expectations as a rule, shouldn’t we strive to conduct ourselves in a manner that is easily perceived by non-MGTOW as something progressive, or positive if possible?

[WolveParticipant 191]

Rhapsodys although I may not be some big famous guy saying this but I don’t think it’s possible to both listen to society and go your own way.
They’re in a sense mutually exclusive and striving to conduct yourself in a manner that is not directly you, you’re own path, will conflict with being a MGHOW unless the way to conduct yourself to be perceived as something progressive or positive is in your own path to begin with in which it is not a problem because you’re already doing it as a MGHOW.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

But at what point does it become a biased shelter for immaturity? A condoning of infantile behavior if you will? Is this Men Going Their Own way (MGTOW), or Boys Going Their Own way (BGTOW)?

I would expect that from a woman, who PRETENDS she is some authority on “maturity”.
It’s the laziest s~~~ anywhere and we’re not falling for it.

Bring a SPECIFIC EXAMPLE here and SHOW how it is “immature”. Bring us a single video, audio, quote, poster, or article that qualifies as a “childish tantrum” of “boys going their own way” and make an effort to show how it is “immature”. That’s the LEAST you can do.

It’s OK, we’ll wait.

Any time you’re ready.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

“There is nothing like a man going his own way, one childish tantrum at a time”.

Never before have words of pure ignorance been spoken…
The whole Idea of this place is “you can be you”, not some edited sock mouth mute! Who gives a s~~~ what society thinks? Just look at the s~~~ they worship! LIKE WOMEN!
I’m sure as f~~~ not interested in my lingual appearance to a bunch of “broom shoved up their asses” White Knight mangina uncle Toms!
If they want to walk around all pussy whipped editing every word they say,, then by all means, go the f~~~ ahead!
If anyone feels the need to impress anyone else for whatever reason, then perhaps this place is not for you….

[Anonymous 1]

“I sense a disturbance in the force”

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

While I certainly would never advocate conforming to societies expectations as a rule, shouldn’t we strive to conduct ourselves in a manner that is easily perceived by non-MGTOW as something progressive, or positive if possible?

If you are not advocating for the conforming to societies expectations, why are you worried about the perception of “non-MGtow” regarding Mgtow? Why do we care if society, the non-MGtow, does not perceive us as something “progessive, or positive if possible”? You shoud strive to conduct yourself to achieve your goals without harming others. What this goal is, is up to you. And if non-Mgtows perceive these goals as positive or not is irrevelevant.

Just saying.

[Anonymous 5]

“Manliness” is the most effective shaming construct ever devised. Countless millions of men have either toiled like workhorses till their last breath, or gone off to die or be maimed in wars while females stay safe at home (playing the victim)
Women must be gobsmacked amazed at how effective this tactic is.

“Maturity” is that querulous voice that forbades us enjoyment. ~unknown~

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I would say something about being patient with a man that is painfully going through the different phases of red pill growth, but I feel that this may fall on deaf ears.

Either you are a species that leaves a trail or.

You haven’t gone through anything that most me have.

Either way. It is wasted effort.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 29]

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

Does it not behoove us as Men, to act like Men? With all the civility, and decency one might expect from a mature adult?

So what the f~~~ are you postulating ? That we are not responsible and are immature because we say/write as we like in this forum ?

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

While I certainly would never advocate conforming to societies expectations as a rule, shouldn’t we strive to conduct ourselves in a manner that is easily perceived by non-MGTOW as something progressive, or positive if possible?

Oh I see . . . . . . f~~~ I was blind but now I see the light. You do want us to join MRA or some such eh ?
F~~~ that idea.

[Swen AugustParticipant 373]

some gal called me a childish boy- I stood up and said -I’m 6 foot 2 and 200 pounds then I pulled my best friend out and asked her- how big are the men where you come from?
Imagine doing that today-10 years in prison.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@rhapsodysparadox Still waiting for that ONE example of “immature and infantile” for an hour now. Need more time? No problem. Will give you another 23 hours before reminding you. Take your time. No pressure at all……..

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[EndwatcherParticipant 81]

Lions dont concern themselves with what sheep think

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I just back checked your introduction.

Give me a moment here. A lot of you have to say resonated with me.

I think that you are searching for a civilized and refined way to expressing yourself and hope for the same in your environment. An environment free of anger. This is unrealistic.

the truth is that I to had a father that was a waste of gravity.

Metamorphosis is not a clean thing. The process is amazing. If you were to dissect it you will see several stages that are somewhat “icky”.

The final product will be a living thing. Worthy of respect and has value if only because it exists. Let the butterfly be the butterfly.

Butterflies poop also.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

“There is nothing like a man going his own way, one childish tantrum at a time”.

Is this Men Going Their Own way (MGTOW), or Boys Going Their Own way (BGTOW)?

Does it not behoove us as Men, to act like Men? With all the civility, and decency one might expect from a mature adult?

So basically, what you’re saying is this: MGTOW, as you see it, are not real men – they are immature boys.

You’re entitled to your opinion. Here’s mine: you sound like a woman who’s trying to shame and manipulate MGTOWs into what you think MGTOW should be. Good luck with that..

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

“There is nothing like a man going his own way, one childish tantrum at a time”.

I ask in jest, is that statement irony, a paradox, or man hating?

I ask in all seriousness, why would you even have to ask that? How can you not know that for what it is?

It’s sour grapes.

Blatant, obvious, whiny, pathetic sour grapes.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I smell tuna

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[RhapsodysparadoxParticipant 26]

KeyMaster – Ive got nothing better to do than live according to your personal time table, that I could not possibly know the expectations thereof.

You want examples, how about “MGTOW Age” claiming to in his words “give a s~~~ about logic and reason and intellect”. While at the same time blowing my words so far out of proportion it’s hard to believe we speak the same language. He needlessly tried to bait me into a flame war, and jumped immediately to the conclusion I was launching personal attacks against him…. WITH MY CASUAL CONVERSATION!!!! When I gave him the option to grow up or be ignored he told me to “p~~~ off”! Perhaps that passes for acceptable behavior in your book, or maybe you just never returned to my thread, and by default have no idea what happened.

How about this proselytizing zealot “stopmockingman” who calls me a liar and a man hater because I don’t swallow his rancid religious swill, in a thread where I’m talking about traumatic childhood experiences…. LIKE I’VE GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PANDER TO A S~~~TY DIAPERED BABY, while I’m hanging my pain out on my sleeve.

I made this forum post to illustrate the tendency to forget the fact that there is still a need, perhaps more dire than ever, to temper ourselves in the process of understanding ourselves. Or else degenerate into the exact same whiny bitches we’re trying to get away from.

I ask you: What good does it do to separate ourselves from “the ball and chain”, only to become the exact same kind of irrational, needy, self absorbed, childish creature that we hate? What, you think you’re incapable of acting like them just because your junk is different?

“I don’t think it’s possible to both listen to society and go your own way”. Anyone with an ounce of forethought must consider the ramifications of what they do, to do otherwise is to invite disaster. The spirit of this thread is to facilitate an understanding process; every ones immediate response was to assume that it was some kind of personal assault. As of the moment of my writing this reply, only one of you even bothered to investigate why I might be saying what I’m saying: “Soldier-Medic”

It is human nature to always assume you know what’s going on from a standpoint of total ignorance; remember I was doing everything that was conceivably possible to convey the postulation in a lighthearted manner. In the future you might consider asking questions, instead of making assumptions. You might ask why?

Consider that women like men who know what they are doing…. No actually they only care if the man “looks” like he knows what he’s doing. Consider how implausible it is to both develop a healthy habit of asking questions, and make ones self look confident, and self-assured enough to convince a woman to spread her legs. Now I would pose, that this human hubris of always jumping to conclusions stems from the need to always appear “in the know”, for the sake of getting pussy. Well you’re not throwing yourself at that pussy anymore now are you? So maybe it’s a good idea to dump out all of the mind f~~~s said pussy forced you to submit to throughout history?

Now about the issue of maturity, what does it entail? Tempering and refining ones self, including the intellect, ones own patience… so on and so forth.

Why should I give a f~~~ about that? I can practically hear someone asking as I write this.

Consider how foolish it is to allow ones self to be used by the gynocentric social construct. Maybe humanity fell into that foolish way of being because they lacked the maturity, intellect, presence of mind, etc… to realize it was a bad idea to begin with? Guess what’s going to happen to you if you don’t do something about all this folly that’s been fostered by humanity for all these years. You will free yourself from one cognitive prison, only to fall right back into another one. I guarantee it. The underlying habits formed in that old prison will make it inevitable, unless they change. Nobody is going to make that kind of change in their lives without immense discipline, and forethought…. Kinda sounds like the characteristics of a mature Man now don’t they?

DRS_au – “Oh I see . . . . . . f~~~ I was blind but now I see the light. You do want us to join MRA or some such eh ?” Like it or not MGTOW is going to come into the view of the mainstream society with ever increasing regularity. When “society” sees MGTOW, do you want them to see something that conforms to the lies they’ve been told about us, or do you want at least the possibility of coming off as something other than a radical bunch of half-crazed woman hating misfits? Like it or not, societies impression of MGTOW will affect MGTOW. I mean I kinda remember reading in another thread about a guy writing a definition of MGTOW for Wikipedia that I must say is much more flattering that what’s currently posted there. As I remember it nobody was telling him “You’re f~~~ing stupid for caring what society thinks about MGTOW”. Why are my thoughts on the topic any different?

[RhapsodysparadoxParticipant 26]

Wolf – “So basically, what you’re saying is this: MGTOW, as you see it, are not real men – they are immature boys”.

Um I kinda remember saying this: “One that certainly only applies to a small, yet vocal minority here”.

Is this a case of selective blindness? Or maybe I was wrong about that minority thing, I sure am seeing allot of childish name calling, and irrational conclusion jumping going on…..

[texasParticipant 35]

Society isn’t really working anymore now is it? Also the mainstream media is laughable, even non-MGTOW men realise that. Also how is anything on this site “immature”? If anything most people on this site conduct themselves with more grace and dignity than the majority of people that I’ve met in real life.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Rhapsodysparadox wrote:

How about this proselytizing zealot “stopmockingman” who calls me a liar and a man hater because I don’t swallow his rancid religious swill, in a thread where I’m talking about traumatic childhood experiences…. LIKE I’VE GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN PANDER TO A S~~~TY DIAPERED BABY, while I’m hanging my pain out on my sleeve.

Here’s a bit of free advice to you. Take it for what it’s worth.

You may not agree with his religious position, but you should respect, or at the very least accept, his right to hold it. Calling it “religious swill”, regardless of whatever experiences you have had, is not doing that. You then proceed to call him a “s~~~ty diapered baby” in the very thread you created whining about MGTOWs’ supposed lack of “mature” decorum.

Can you not see your blatant, feminist level hypocrisy there?

You really don’t want to persist in that. It’s not a good way to live your life.

Edit: Huh. Something wonky is happening with the quotes. I quoted Rhapsodywhatever there, but it changed to KeyMaster and the post itself I quoted is now gone or deleted. Is this thread being prepped for the litter box or something?

[RhapsodysparadoxParticipant 26]

Russky – “I smell tuna”.

Yeah because only a pussy cares about bettering ones self, responsibilities, and considering the consequences of ones own actions.

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