Just discovered the Sandman. Better late then never.

[DocParticipant]

F~~~ – I think must live under a rock half the time.

I’m going to be busy a while now I think.

Any recommendations?

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

The wrestler?

I’d suggest maybe his tag match with Tommy Dreamer vs The Dudleys at the first One Night Stand PPV.

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[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Sandman isn’t too bad if you are getting into MGTOW and want to learn more about general female behavior. If you want more meat and understanding of the more psychological aspect of all this, I’d go with Stardusk or even TFM.

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

LOL He hit the zombie with a singapore cane.

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[Anonymous 43]

https://www.youtube.com/user/MorgueToeTag

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwobag5HX2Zu4w66Rj3La3g

http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXVCVIkIpgUjCPtQ7lpy94Q

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXVCVIkIpgUjCPtQ7lpy94Q

[DocParticipant]

Many thanks for the feedback and guidance.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[DocParticipant]

No not the f~~~ing wrestler.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

Doc wrote:

No not the f~~~ing wrestler

Lmao. Are you sure? How about the Metallica song?

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[DocParticipant]

Nooooooo. Just no.
But The Black Album is good.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Yeah I like Sandman, he’s Ok.

But I think Stardusk(youtube = thinking-ape), Barbarossa or however it’s spelled (youtube = bar-Bar), and TFM (Youtube = Turd Flinging Monkey) are by far the best MGTOW material producers out there.

Sandman is OK. I’ve listened to some of his stuff, but from my understanding his whole deal was to upload daily material. Which might be useful to just not slip back into denial. But it just lacks that “punch” that the other guys I mention above seem to have on me. At least that’s my opinion from what I’ve listened to.

The science and understanding stuff is what really helped me get a foundation on reality and make sense of my past. The three mentioned above is what helped me with that. And TFM’s older material. His newer material is great and entertaining and I listen to it a lot, but the old stuff has a lot of gold in it, the videos with a lot of thought and probably took a week or more to research and produce. The new stuff is more just a radio show, still love to listen but I wouldn’t recommend it for someone starting out and really trying to make sense of their life.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[DocParticipant]

Thanks Ever5
I checked a few of the links posted by May7. Some useful stuff there. Got hold of The Manipulated Man

Read what FHLH said about Stardusk and headed straight there.
I can appreciate the superficial but the way my mind works I need the dive deeper. Something with a more meaningful kick.
Give me beer or scotch and I’ll take the scotch if that makes sense. A need for more of a stimulation.

Briffault’s Law is enlightening.
That is the level I like to dive to.
The inner mechanics.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Ever5Participant 1008]

The Manipulated Man, might be worth reading, but I wouldn’t recommend it for overcoming this type of stuff, I really wouldn’t recommend that book to anyone, though I have read it. The Youtube Guys I mentioned are way more useful. At the same time, if someone already had it, I wouldn’t tell them to not read it.

The reason is because it’s verbatim, Adolf Hitler’s book, Mein Kampf. Not s~~~ting you. Read Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf(The Ford Translation), the propaganda piece for the jews. This book, The Manipulated Man, is basically verbatim the exact same words Hitler used when talking about the jews in one or two of his chapters. Most the book is not about jews, but the part that is, it’s just like The Manipulate Man’s text.

So, The Manipulate Man, might help you to bring up some negative views on women, but I personally would not recommend it being that I’m pretty sure the author simply copied Mein Kampf and switched out “jew/jews” for “woman/women”. Not s~~~ting you here. I’m being serious, that’s what I suspect and how that book was written. It’s a regurgitation of Mein Kampf. It’s basically just a propaganda piece.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[DocParticipant]

Fair point Ever5.
I’ll keep it in mind.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[DocParticipant]

It’s difficult to know what to pay attention to.
To sit and listen uninterrupted is a luxury.

Different to posting here – I can dip in out most of my waking day.
Finding 10-20 minutes to listen is tricky.
Not impossible mind.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Ever5Participant 1008]

yeah, if you’ve got some life experience, even if it’s only 5-10 years of dating. You simply listen to these youtube guys, the scientific stuff and then reflect on your past. You’ll see the patterns. You’ll see what happened.

For me, I went through hell simply because I couldn’t understand why my relationships went the way and ended the way that they did. Now I know. No more confusion, no more beating myself up. I simply understand what happened and why it happened. That’s so valuable, simply just understanding what happened and why.

But it’s a two way street. You listen to other guy’s stories, you listen to the scientific stuff and then you reflect on your own past. No one can give it to you, that’s an internal process. But this stuff is like the map to get to that understanding, that’s ultimately within yourself.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[DocParticipant]

Ever5 you hit the nail on the head.

I have had 3 LTRs over the last 27 years that were dotted with periods dating.

I spent 10 years refusing to get involved with women because I knew what they were like. Then I met my wife to be. She was the most convincing person I met so I let my guard down.
We got married and didn’t make it to our third anniversary. We had two kids between marriage and separation. But when s~~~ went south there was no convincing her.

The pattern repeated – same same same.
Since we separated I dated 3-4 women and decided I was done. The s~~~ is the same. What am Looking for?
Peace is what.
I will never ever ever find that with a women.

Yes I am a little reluctant to admit what reality looks like but I know I can never roll the dice again.
I have battle suicadal urges born out of anger but turn it round and say to the women folk F~~~ YOU.

I am now sovereign and you will never know me.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Ever5Participant 1008]

never been married but had a lot of relationships, that sucked. And I tried really really hard. And the worse part of all of it was the pain I caused myself trying to figure it out. Trying to Understand what the hell happened and why I couldn’t make it work.

I’ve been good at accomplishing goals and making things happen in my life, yet relationships with women…. So it was that much more painful. Feeling like a loser and all that, yet not being able to comprehend why and looking at my life and being like “yeah, but I’m not a loser, so why is this happening???”

Anyway, congrats on making your way to this point and this material. It can be painful to process everything and reflect. In the end though, it’s so refreshing.

We all make mistakes in life. That’s life. It’s not understanding why, not being able to learn from the mistake that is the most painful.

Simply understanding why relationships failed in the past, learning the lessons, that’s worth so much more than a relationship in the present or future to cover up past pains.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[DocParticipant]

Thanks Ever5

I know what you mean about being made to feel like a loser when you ain’t one.

We are not losers. We have found our lives and we don’t need women to ‘complete us’ whatever that s~~~ f~~~ing means.

Funny thing is – looking back I have gotten more done and achieved more when I have been single.
It is so true that women just drain the s~~~ out of us in all ways. The are emotional f~~~ing parasites.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[WanderingMGTOWParticipant 288]

Here are some of my fave youtube vloggers.

Human: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2dUsMtd08RfaH12O9DCDg
– Best production quality I have seen, and I really dig his views.

TFM: https://www.youtube.com/user/MorgueToeTag/featured

I don’t agree with him politically but I really enjoy the articles they discuss. DDJ, a regular guest is a divorce lawyer and one of us with a couple horrific divorces under his belt. He lurks here, too.

If you like Sandman, you will probably like Howard Dare. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs-brcHDxKqrOGU9cEWuCMQ

Enlightened Kiwi is in that same space, too: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDRhy5G0TGF0nHdMjSH2E6w/videos

John is a great guy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DyPLVr8OsvTtShvPEEk4w Rambles and repeats his point a bit too much for me, but a solid MGTOW with good ideas. I like to take in information fast.

Colttaine
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX1GkAJdz_WF5Vyc2xUxZZw

Coterie
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnYBk3rcTaYN-LLwopSZjig

Stardusk:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1qRcO1OehgkOD_fHsu_uQ

These 3 seem to be a bit more intellectual. Great vids but a bit more “work” to listen to and to understand.

Barbarosa:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDoNFQZqQpd6aL32Ua4JPTQ
Stopped producing a while back, but lots of solid, intellectual content.

Guess I planned your month for you. 🙂

Tired.

[DocParticipant]

Ha ha. You just did.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

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