Just can't do it again.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

I’m sorry to be blunt but wake up man.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 42]

Vulcan wrote:

Now I’m with a girl who makes me happy. Our issues and disputes are really very minor and we really enjoy each others company….but…she’s marriage obsessed.

She like any woman with everything to gain and nothing to loose would feel allot differently if the family, it’s fortunes, and the children, were his “exclusive” property and not tangible to the woman, the way it used to be, when marriage and families lasted, not this revolving door of extraction through extortion we have today!
The contract of marriage has been altered and now it’s null and void by the harmful binding agreements contained therein. The man now becomes property of the state.

Vulcan wrote:

the last 2 years I’ve gotten on again/off again pressure to get married from her. Guilt trips, suggestions, outright pressure. I get pressure from her family too, they treat me differently then they treat her sister’s husband

I’m treated differently too and that’s just for being single without a girlfriend, I’m sick of women altogether after all the gems I knew! marriage is cutting your own throat and emasculating yourself beneath the woman, the children, and the state, destroying yourself as a disposable utility when they turn on you and render you up to the state.

Vulcan wrote:

Hell even my therapist who I see once in a while as needed has even tried to pressure me into getting married again.

Your therapist is a woman or a mangina! Any man with a grain of manliness knows to preserve his sovereignty above all else by not allowing this new contract of marriage that takes his freedom, his home, his family, his children, and his woman away, delivering him into bondage mandated by the state.
Don’t let ANYONE convince you to tie that razor ribbon around your neck! Then it’s too late!

Vulcan wrote:

Honestly it was this forum that made me realize I’m not alone in this world when it comes to just not having the ability to sign that marriage contract again.

I don’t know how the f~~~ any man can go near women after all the damage they put us through! Dealing with modern women is the worst thing a man can do!

Women are disobedient and now give out the orders and determine when you’re to be disposed of and extracted because that’s what modern women are entitled to do!

Dump the c~~~ and let her find another disposable slave!

The entire paradigm of marriage has been molested making MGTOW the only viable option to escape the destruction.

Marriage is the end of a man’s life, not the beginning the way it used to be, wake up sunshine the laws are all different where men have no peace and security being extracted as a woman’s slave!

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

You’re awesome Jumbo!

[Y_Participant 4591]

PistolPete wrote:

You’re awesome Jumbo!

In a bad mood today – hee hee.

Anonymous wrote:

Marriage is the end of a man’s life, not the beginning the way it used to be, wake up sunshine the laws are all different where men have no peace and security being extracted as a woman’s slave!

Go Tower!!!!

[Anonymous 42]

Go Yumbo!!!

Y_ wrote:

In a bad mood today – hee hee.

I’m in a BAD MOOD EVERYDAY! Just kidding, I don’t let the s~~~ get in while floating around in this sewer we all EARTH! Oh look, there goes another turd…

[VulcanParticipant 16]

This feedback has been great! And is exactly why I posted. I’m in an area of the world that is extremely religious, and surrounded by people who are insistent on the whole “you must get married, or you just aren’t right” attitude. So that makes it tough to try and go my own way when I feel like I’m all alone in doing so. To answer a couple questions:

Q: How did you catch the cheaters:

A: Wife 1 I came home early from work one day and caught her in the act. Wife 2 confessed…after Christmas of course so she could get all her gifts. Then she ran off to Utah to spend New Years with a different guy.

Also, I got the snip many moons ago. Best decision of my life. I can’t imagine the hell I would be in if I had kids with any of my exes.

And as to the purpose of this post: Honestly it was more venting. I really needed a place to talk about what I have going on where I won’t hear about how my not wanting to marry ever again is wrong, or how I need to re-think my values. I needed to be able to know that I have some support in this, and so far that’s what I’ve gotten back. Thanks a ton guys.

[UKChapParticipant 296]

Another blunt statement- Pop Smoke, and get the f~~~ outta there!!

Hump, Dump and move on Brother

Life's a bitch, then you're supposed to marry one and then die- sod that for a game of soldiers!

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Vulcan wrote:

religious

The greatest form of mind control ever invented.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Vulcan wrote:

This feedback has been great! And is exactly why I posted. I’m in an area of the world that is extremely religious, and surrounded by people who are insistent on the whole “you must get married, or you just aren’t right” attitude. So that makes it tough to try and go my own way when I feel like I’m all alone in doing so. To answer a couple questions:

Q: How did you catch the cheaters:

A: Wife 1 I came home early from work one day and caught her in the act. Wife 2 confessed…after Christmas of course so she could get all her gifts. Then she ran off to Utah to spend New Years with a different guy.

Also, I got the snip many moons ago. Best decision of my life. I can’t imagine the hell I would be in if I had kids with any of my exes.

And as to the purpose of this post: Honestly it was more venting. I really needed a place to talk about what I have going on where I won’t hear about how my not wanting to marry ever again is wrong, or how I need to re-think my values. I needed to be able to know that I have some support in this, and so far that’s what I’ve gotten back. Thanks a ton guys.

Your answer is simple just walk away from it.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Huguj23Participant 4]

WPL wrote:

A friend of mine showed me a video once — it was intended for women, and it outlined a “sure-fire” method to get married within one year, just for the sake of being married fast. Of course, a good portion of the program dealt with sneaky ways to determine a man’s wealth, how the woman should conduct herself prior to the marriage to not seem crazy/desperate, etc. Had a couple men (manginas, mostly — and a token “alpha”) on the panel telling women what men see as red flags so that women can suppress these sorts of things.

I’m curious, can you upload the video/send a link or tell the source so i can search in the internet?

Keymaster wrote:

I remember once writing out my own “marriage contract” for fun. I put lots of thought into it and decided to lay out the terms exactly as I want – with no restrictions. Right at the top, the #1 thing I expect from my “wife” is for her to stop talking when I request it. Special thanks to Einstein for the inspiration.

When I showed it to a woman, she thought “YOU’RE NOT SERIOUS”.

I wish I had a photo of the expression on her face.
Bottom lip quivering and all.

She ended up marrying someone else.
Better him than me.

haha, i laughed so much here.
You should post someday the whole thing. ^^

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Huguj23 wrote:

haha, i laughed so much here.
You should post someday the whole thing. ^^

I actually laughed so much writing it! , and strongly recommend it every man writes out his own marriage contract. Hold nothing back, and have it ready. Anytime “marriage” comes up, hand it to her with a pen. She’ll for the hills when she sees you have terms of your own.

That’s why they want “marriage” so badly.
Because they think they write the book on it.

Huguj23 wrote:

I’m curious, can you upload the video/send a link or tell the source so i can search in the internet?

60% of British brides admit to using “dirty tricks” to get engaged.

And that 60% is just those who will ADMIT it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

Hold nothing back, and have it ready. Anytime “marriage” comes up, hand it to her with a pen.

I dunno Meymaster, the way I see it with my demands, and their narcissism, I’ll get a pen stuck in my eye!

[joetechParticipant]

When they tell you to re-think your values, I would say, “I have. I don’t value divorce, alimony, or child support. I value my freedom and my sense of self worth. What do you believe in?”

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 13]

I’m in the process of divorce. My first and last.

Not only will I never marry again but I’m done with women.

I’ve seen who they really are and you can’t unsee it.

Today these c~~~s are also putting too many men in jail, for at least a day or often much longer.

They can put you in jail based on their word.

Ending a marriage or a relationship today is a high risk of jail.

Women are JAIL.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

@vulcan. I’m glad you posted, and I’ve read all of the answers so far.

Even if she isn’t a whore like the two that have done you so much wrong up until now everything would change. My wife has never cheated in a quarter of a century, I’m sure of it. But, and there’s always a but, I have spent over a million dollars trying to take care of her and give her the mercurial what she wants. Still not happy.

Even if you found the “right” girl this time, it’s always happily never after when you are the only one with b~~~~ in a vice.

I’d never presume to tell you what you should do, but in your circumstances the first time she tried to pressure me she would have been gone regardless of the good times that we had had. That’s a lifetime of experience with a not bad woman talking.

It doesn’t have to be “bad” to just be not as good as a life where you do what’s right for you and you don’t give her carte Blanche to screw you over at will.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[VulcanParticipant 16]

Thanks @ogre for such a well worded response. The red pill is still somewhat new to me so I’m still figuring out what my own way really is. I like women and truly like having a female companion in my life, but by the same token I know where I want to go with my life and have a solid plan to get there. I will be able to retire in 5 years at the ripe old age of 45 with a full pension, no debt and a house that is paid off which I can turn around and rent out so someone else can pay my mortgage. And this is despite losing a TON of money due to both divorces.

In the end I’m going to go live on the beach, learn to surf, and do my own thing. If my woman wants to join me she is welcome to. But I’m not diverting from what my goal is for anyone.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Vulcan wrote:

I know where I want to go with my life and have a solid plan to get there.

I hope you can get there but trying to do it with a 1000 pound anchor around your neck will be tough—de-c~~~.

[Anonymous 13]

Vulcan wrote:

Thanks @ogre for such a well worded response. The red pill is still somewhat new to me so I’m still figuring out what my own way really is. I like women and truly like having a female companion in my life, but by the same token I know where I want to go with my life and have a solid plan to get there. I will be able to retire in 5 years at the ripe old age of 45 with a full pension, no debt and a house that is paid off which I can turn around and rent out so someone else can pay my mortgage. And this is despite losing a TON of money due to both divorces.

In the end I’m going to go live on the beach, learn to surf, and do my own thing. If my woman wants to join me she is welcome to. But I’m not diverting from what my goal is for anyone.

There’s no female companions. It is an act.

All they see in you now is your pension, and your paid for house.

Let a woman get her claws in you again and you will lose them, and/or go to jail.

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

I like women and truly like having a female companion in my life,

Vulcan you sound like a good guy but when you say this you seem to be circling like a dog that’s lost the scent. Here are some words of wisdom that were imparted to me a number of years ago: “You can’t be honest with anyone until you can be honest with yourself”

Now if you decide to try this out then the only question you have to answer for yourself is this: “What do i actually want a woman for?”

Once you work out what you really want a woman for you can then move forwards.

Vulcan wrote:

I like women and truly like having a female companion in my life,

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Stick to your guns man. The consequences financially for you is huge. The f~~~ing therapist won’t be the one footing the bill in case of a divorce. If he pressures you again ask him if he will pay for the divorce lawyers, alimony and child support payments if the two of you get divorced. I f~~~ing hate motherf~~~ers who pressure people, these bastards do this to people without a thought about the life long consequences and hell you are going to introduce into their lives.

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