Jordan Peterson: "Simply put: monogamous pair bonding makes men less violent."

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

If it does then marriage is worth supporting. This undercuts the MGTOW ethic to not marry. It has to be addressed.

On the New York Times and “Enforced Monogamy”

I don’t think that marriage makes a man less violent.

That’s like saying that slavery makes blacks less violent. Certainly since slavery there has been a lot of violence in the black community.

Correlation does not mean causation.

Men are tied to the yoke under marriage and have no time to do adventurous things. Married and non married turn to violence rarely. When men are violent, in most cases, I bet you can find an unfullfilled female pushing his buttons.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Many Married Men are just too damn wore out physically, psychologically, spiritually, and emotionally to have all that much energy left for to many things besides pulling the cart.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Knarley BobParticipant 2219]

The thing is, when a woman tells a man to “go away, I’m angry”, the man will usually comply.
Now on the other hand, one tells a woman to go away, she usually will not. She will literally walk after the man like a hen picking at the back of the head of the rooster.
That is about the time she deservidley gets smacked. A married man is most likely to encounter this, so there fore being married would cause a man to be DRIVEN to violence.
Take the BITCH out of the equasion, and no violence.

OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Illusion of monogamy.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[UntamedParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

Illusion of monogamy.

Exactly.

I just knew Peterson was a weasle Mangina sucking at the System’s tit.
Now we have the proof.

Now that the marriage rates have alarmingly come down everywhere, and for good reasons, these so-called society’s suck-ass Menginas and Bluepiller marionettes are trying to change the game.

Too late, bozos. Men have gotten the message and are acting accordingly.

“…socially-enforced monogamous conventions decrease male violence. In addition (and not trivially) they also help provide mothers with comparatively reliable male partners, and increase the probability that stable, father-intact homes will exist for children.” ~ Blue-Pill Advocate Peterson

What he’s saying is the same as continue taking the Blue-Pill, get married into the Plantation, maybe have children and let your life and future be ran over by a self-entitled T~~~ who’ll destroy you if you’re not a nice little Mangina.

Socially-enforced meaning being publicly shamed by feminists.

monogamous conventions decrease male violence = Bulls~~~.

MGTOW living decrease male violence.
There ain’t no other way.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

I repeat muy self, peterson is just a trad con. He is in this for the cash.

Guy talks an insane amount of bulls~~~ to say basically nothing.

I congrat the guy becouse he is making ir big, but any idiot who follows his advice is as good as dead.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Peterson is lukewarm…. he is not helpful.

He is anti-mgtow, make no mistake.

[LonestarParticipant 333]

You could make the argument that castration would make men less violent too.
I’m not signing up for that either.

So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key. Eagles

[AttonParticipant]

Some outrage on the part of the average man is a good thing.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[GrumpyParticipant]

Meh
Same s~~~ different pile.
Demand that men be “monogamous” yet permit women to do as they please.
Lets just forget that a man will defend and protect what is “his”, and yes that may lead to violence.
A man will tolerate only so much abuse, and then will retaliate. He will shoulder blame, shame, responsibility, obligations until he either breaks down or rebels against the never ending demands of others.
Ladies and mangina’s I think you have overextended your line of credit regarding the benevolence, duty, and expectations of men. Pay up and f~~~ off already.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22527]

Lonestar wrote:

You could make the argument that castration would make men less violent too.
I’m not signing up for that either.

I know hysterectomies make women less crazy.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 6]

It’s been a truism among anthropologists and biologically-oriented psychologists for decades that all human societies face two primary tasks: regulation of female reproduction (so the babies don’t die, you see) and male aggression (so that everyone doesn’t die).

Which anthropologists? What is a “biologically oriented” Psychologist? Are biologically oriented psychologists representative of psychologists as a whole? Do they have peer reviewed research published in mainstream journals? Why should I care what they think? Does length of time something has been said make it legitimist?

The above questions are NEVER addressed. The assertions are assumed to be true. It also mentions that ALL human societies face two primary goals. Seriously? All human societies? Every single society that has ever existed, currently exists, and will exist in the future? That’s a bold statement, one that is NEVER established in this article. In fact he cites one book, one that I have to purchase on Amazon, then shows me a webpage that presumably contains information from said book. He never established that the book is representative of any kind of a consensus nor does he set out the credentials for the author. Basically this is an “appeal to authority” fallacy.

It says that male aggression would kill everyone. Go back and reed it. It literally says that if male aggression isn’t socially controlled then everyone will die. First it doesn’t articulate what male aggression is, nor does it describe how that puts literally everyone in a society in mortal danger anywhere in the article. What a joke. So men are naturally “aggressive” in ways that will kill everyone if left to their own devices? All of this is based on nameless and faceless “experts.”

Also it says that women’s sexuality needs to be controlled. Why? Because babies will die! How? Again no answer. The foundations of this article are presumptuous and shallow. Plus he throws shade on nameless faceless critics who say that he wants a “Handmaiden’s Tale” type deal, at least that’s what he says. This is called poisoning the well. He’s already shaping the reader’s opinion of his detractors before he’s even gotten into his arguments.

I didn’t really make it much further than the lines that I quoted. I wanted to see if he addressed the items that I wrote about above. NOPE. Just more “men are aggressive and will kill everybody” style garbage.

[TwistParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

Ladies and mangina’s I think you have overextended your line of credit regarding the benevolence, duty, and expectations of men. Pay up and f~~~ off already.

Amen

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

Peterson is lukewarm…. he is not helpful.

He is anti-mgtow, make no mistake.

I’ve met quite a few mgtowers, even on this board, who think Peterson is on their side and that his apology to mgtow was genuine, and that he didn’t really mean it. These people forgive him on the basis that his attacks on the left more than makes up for it, but the one thing they don’t take into account is that tradcons like Peterson are just as much of an enemy to mgtow ideals as the left and femnazis are. Peterson aka ‘the panderer’ wouldn’t hesitate to throw us under the bus and his resistance to the left is more of a cover up to bring so many lost and deluded souls back to the plantation which contradicts and eventually will be at a confrontation with mgtow. Just you wait and see.

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[Gravel PitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Do they have peer reviewed research published in mainstream journals?

Sure, they use legit references…from decades ago. That article was from the 80’s. I think Evo-Psych has come a little further .

As you already said, Peterson picks articles to prop up his already established conclusion.

It’s all part of his rigid ideology which is basically tradcon pseudo modern Christian woo woo. He’ll battle the libtards on gender pronouns which is fine (he gets his fair share of ruthless criticism from the left) but he thinks he’s on some lone island of understanding and everyone else is wrong.

Never forget that SEXUAL DIMORPHISM is wildly unpopular to talk about. Hypergamy and women’s Hypoagency are taboo to speak about, we have to keep our heads in the sand so we don’t offend their feelings and their girl power….

I’m convinced that many popular intellectuals like Peterson and Sam Harris know better but they only offer fence-sitting commentary to appease the female empire. If Sam or Jordan came out and told it like it is, no one would pay them $5000 for interviews or buy their books….

We can’t let it get out, that women don’t love anything but SUV’s, mePhones and welfare/child support checks. We can’t let it get out that women drop perfectly good husbands for richer ones at an alarming rate. We can’t talk about their IQ or their weak muscles. No one talk about their numbers of sexual partners, their anti-depressants or their venereal diseases!

We can’t talk about Women’s Own Group preference or how men have been martyring themselves for females on every level for a million years. No one talk about female sexual predators or the rate at which mothers kill their children!

Jordan Peterson ignores all this and thinks if you follow the Bible and suck up to a girl, she’ll be a NAWALT for you…. sorry Mr. Peterson, that s~~~ aint gonna work. Good way to end up dead actually.

[UntamedParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s been a truism among anthropologists and biologically-oriented psychologists for decades that all human societies face two primary tasks: regulation of female reproduction (so the babies don’t die, you see) and male aggression (so that everyone doesn’t die).

Which anthropologists? What is a “biologically oriented” Psychologist? Are biologically oriented psychologists representative of psychologists as a whole? Do they have peer reviewed research published in mainstream journals? Why should I care what they think? Does length of time something has been said make it legitimist?

The above questions are NEVER addressed. The assertions are assumed to be true. It also mentions that ALL human societies face two primary goals. Seriously? All human societies? Every single society that has ever existed, currently exists, and will exist in the future? That’s a bold statement, one that is NEVER established in this article. In fact he cites one book, one that I have to purchase on Amazon, then shows me a webpage that presumably contains information from said book. He never established that the book is representative of any kind of a consensus nor does he set out the credentials for the author. Basically this is an “appeal to authority” fallacy.

It says that male aggression would kill everyone. Go back and reed it. It literally says that if male aggression isn’t socially controlled then everyone will die. First it doesn’t articulate what male aggression is, nor does it describe how that puts literally everyone in a society in mortal danger anywhere in the article. What a joke. So men are naturally “aggressive” in ways that will kill everyone if left to their own devices? All of this is based on nameless and faceless “experts.”

Also it says that women’s sexuality needs to be controlled. Why? Because babies will die! How? Again no answer. The foundations of this article are presumptuous and shallow. Plus he throws shade on nameless faceless critics who say that he wants a “Handmaiden’s Tale” type deal, at least that’s what he says. This is called poisoning the well. He’s already shaping the reader’s opinion of his detractors before he’s even gotten into his arguments.

I didn’t really make it much further than the lines that I quoted. I wanted to see if he addressed the items that I wrote about above. NOPE. Just more “men are aggressive and will kill everybody” style garbage.

It’s 💯% BULLS~~~ and the deluded Bluepillers who prefer that others do the thinking for them, will gob those lies hook, line and sinker, as usual.

Psychiatrists, anthropologists, physicists, Geneticists, Pathologists, Mynutsists so-called Experts… They think they sooo f~~~ing smart!
Look what they’ve done to their cherished so-called society and tell me they’re not ALL f~~~ing nuts!
They f~~~ed s~~~ up and are now trying to blame Joe Blows and the regular guys of the world who never asked them to touch one single cell of God’s creation!

They are sooo gonna f~~~ing pay!
I would not want to be in their shoes on Judgement Day!
No wonder they’ve convinced themselves and trying to convince the rest of us that the Creator doesn’t exist!
I’d love to see their faces when they see Him!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Monogamy actually works when it’s principles of love and respect are followed. If a man beats his wife, he clearly doesn’t love her and you can bet he sleeping with other women.

If a woman berates and cheats on her husband, she clearly doesn’t respect him for all he does.

Two imperfect people bound together is hard enough. Two imperfect SELFISH people bound together is an inevitable disaster.

Sadly in today’s society people enter into marriage only thinking about what they will gain. Not what they can give. Now with the 3rd wave of lunatic feminism, women have lost their values completely. Therefore that have NO VALUE AT ALL.

#ICETHEMOUT
#MANOUT
#HIDEYOURWEALTH

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[SolidParticipant 7520]

I’ve a strong opinion about violence & males. Random violence is bad, go around punching people, those kind of things, but we are rational animals, we can think, but being violent means that we won’t take s~~~ from anyone.

A married male is far more submissive than a single one, he “tries to make things work”, so he have to deal with an enormous amount of bulls~~~ to make it work, he have to accept a lot of bulls~~~ in his workplace, because he really need the paycheck in the end of the month or he is screwed. Marriage & debt put a men in a position that he have to take s~~~ from everyone, I’ve seen a lot of BPs that have that “I just want to die” face, even when they laugh at a joke, you know that this guy is far beyond repair inside, is like “s~~~, I’ve bills to pay, a fat c~~~ to listen nagging and a s~~~ boss that won’t leave me alone, can I just die ?”.

Marriage is a hell of a way to society to put men under control, with marriage comes debt, with debt come extra-hours, with that your energy is completely drained, and you don’t have time to understand what is going on with your government and society, and also don’t give a s~~~, because you have far more important issues to attend to.

Another point is, how many of your friends ever got into a fight because of a c~~~ ? I’ve seeing with my own eyes c~~~s throwing friends against each other, she slept with both of them and tried to manipulate them into fight with each other. Why ? Just because her ego ! One c~~~ per mangina makes them not fight like wild animals for a meat hole.

He just don’t get that monogamous relationship nowadays only mean something for the man, c~~~s don’t give a s~~~, they want all privileges that comes from it, with 0 responsibilities.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Monogamous pair bonding makes men less violent.

Until Beta realizes that Pumpkin is incapable of monogamous pair bonding when he finds out she has been cheating on him.

Then the potential to become violent increases.

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