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Wow. The rudest cashier I’ve ever had in my entire life told me I had bad manners for not saying “hi” and other crap to her. And of course, a bunch of other people heard.
She’s right. It IS bad manners to not respond when someone says “hi”. But it’s also bad manners for an employee to point that out to a client or customer.She is being rude herself.
A service person is being entirely inappropriate by lecturing a customer on “manners” in this situation.
No, I don’t feel like making small talk with you
“Hi” is an opener.
“Small talk” is “nice weather we’re having isn’t it?”. Depending on the way you said “Hi” (or “good afternoon”) back to her, most people can sense if you are open to small talk.
I don’t even want you saying “hi” to me. I don’t want you saying anything except how much I have to pay for everything.
You can’t realistically expect others to be a mind reader, or have a problem when they are not able to know this about you. NOBODY could possibly know that you don’t want be greeted with a “hello ” before they take a payment from you.
Others customers would find that “rude”. It’s not good customer service – when you order a coffee – for them to just day “$2.00”. That would be rude in itself.
With women, its not a lot of effort to be the better man.
“Hi”
“Good afternoon”
Now you have more class than she does.
Even when I don’t want to talk to a woman I can’t stand, it’s still:• “certainly” instead of “sure”
• “my pleasure” instead of “you’re welcome” (or worse: “no problem”)
• “good morning / afternoon / evening” instead of “hi”.It’s very easy to demonstrate more class than women.
I wouldn’t even put her in the position you did. She would say “hi” and you would say “good afternoon” and you just instantly elevated yourself above “common”. Nobody who says “hi” will ever be in a position to lecture you on manners. In fact you will stand out.
The thing is that she knows nothing about me anyway.
RIGHT.
That’s why you can’t expect her to be a mind-reader.
“Hi” is the MOST BASIC in customer service.
You can’t fault someone for that at all.Shaming me like that doesn’t even come close to working. It just makes me avoid bitches like that even more. In fact, I’m not ever going there again unless she’s fired.
Lecturing you on manners is totally inappropriate. But a simple “good afternoon” in response makes everything a non-issue, and everyone is at least civil to one another.
I’ve been in a similar situation and I gave a bitch behind the counter an earful after going there for 3 years, and I said “good afternoon how are you?” and she said “what do you want” with a scowl she is practically KNOWN for.
On that day – after 3 years – I decided she will never get another cent from me and I told her why. I actually told her she has the most miserable attitude I have ever seen in ANYONE working anywhere. EVERY time I went in there, this bitch had an attitude exactly like yours. And she has it with everyone.
I didn’t owe her anything except enough for some gum.
But a simple “good afternoon” made me the better man.Next to women, it’s no effort to be the better man.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Why the hell would I want to stand out? I want to be invisible. Although, I guess this doesn’t make me invisible any more. So, I’ll just withdraw further because 90% invisibility (I’m pretty much a recluse) still makes me fully visible at times.
I like Keymaster’s thoughts!
Personally, and only when the spirit is upon me, I would wish them a grave ‘Good Afternoon’ and then throw in a lascivious little ‘Darlin’ just to f~~~ with their heads.
Don’t try this on male cashiers though – especially not in the country …...And in our own despair, against our will, Comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Agamemnon; by Aeschylus
Why the hell would I want to stand out? I want to be invisible.
It’s not realistic to go through life being “invisible” to other people.
Famous people want to be more invisible than you — just so they can go pig out in a restaurant without being photographed. But it’s not realistic. You CAN’t just waltz through life being invisible to people and insisting they should never interact with you or expect them to read your mind on this.
I’m not giving you any s~~~ here.
I’m trying to let you know how to avoid the confrontation and allowing this woman to live in your head rent free. Don’t even give her the CHANCE to lecture you.
You can “still mind your own business”, and that includes not saying everything that comes to mind, or answering her stupid questions. Like when a woman asks “so where do you work?”. Even then, you don’t say “mind your own business”…..
You say “I’m an astronaut (point to the sky) You see that? That’s my office”.
“Really???”“No.”
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Boom! you just told her to mind her own business by being classier than she was. And you’re having FUN with women who don’t have any goddam manners. You’re PLAYING WITH THEM. If you have to interact with other people and don’t like it, don’t let then irritate you. HAVE FUN while doing it.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.She’s right. It IS bad manners to not respond when someone says “hi”. But it’s also bad manners for an employee to point that out to a client or customer.She is being rude herself.
A service person is being entirely inappropriate by lecturing a customer on “manners” in this situation.
I don’t accept the gynocentric definition of manners. I don’t live by what society expects of men.
You can’t realistically expect others to be a mind reader, or have a problem when they are not able to know this about you. NOBODY could possibly know that you don’t want be greeted with a “hello ” before they take a payment from you.
They can say “hi” all they want, even though I don’t want them to. That itself is not the problem. But just someone saying “hi” to me doesn’t mean I have to play by gynocentric rules.
“Hi” is the MOST BASIC in customer service.
You can’t fault someone for that at all.Fine. When someone says “hi” and I don’t say hi back, that’s when they already know everything they need to know about me.
I don’t accept the gynocentric definition of manners.
I don’t either.
These aren’t female standards. They are mine.
No woman forced me to have these basic standards of conduct.A woman couldn’t even teach me better manners if she tried.
I don’t accept the female definition of what it means to be a “man” (or a “gentleman”) either. First she has to demonstrate basic manners before I will even give her a thought.
These manners are for good for men too. They NEVER let me down.
The next man who serves you is gonna say “hi” to you too.
Do you really expect him to just say “$2.00”That’s not a gynocentric thing. Female has nothing to do with it.
Fine. When someone says “hi” and I don’t say hi back, that’s when they already know everything they need to know about me.
I don’t even want to know that about you. But OK.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.These aren’t female standards. They are MINE.
Ok fine, I don’t care how you define manners either.
The next man who serves you is gonna say “hi” to you too.
Do you really expect him to just say “$2.00”Why not? That’s all the robots are going to say. Ok, so maybe some idiot will program the robots to say “hi”, but it would be considered meaningless because everybody would know they were programmed to say “hi”. The only difference is I already see it that way.
I see no reason to be bothered by her saying hi to you, just that she called you out for not responding.
Wait a minute. I’m not bothered by someone saying “hi”. I’m bothered by other people thinking they can get me to play their games (i.e., make me go someone else’s way) by doing that.
I don’t think I understand what’s bothering you (besides her comment about your lack of response).
How is she getting you to play games? “hi” isn’t playing a game, not in that situation anyway. Her rude response was just rude, regardless of her intentions. Why look into it any further then that?
As an aside, I am not a very social person myself, but I do agree with KM. There is little downside to being polite and giving a good impression. Even if they start trying to engage in small talk you can just smile and stare at them without saying a word. It ends quickly. There is even the rare occasion where I find the small talk to be worthwhile.
Ok. Then do it.
Wait a minute. I’m not bothered by someone saying “hi”. I’m bothered by other people thinking they can get me to play their games (i.e., make me go someone else’s way) by doing that.
That’s just being stubborn. I have a cousin like that. She REFUSED to smile in any family photographs. Everyone would say “smile!!” and she would have a scowl in every goddam picture she ever took.
Not because she didn’t smile.
But she had a thing about being TOLD to smile on command.I have no interest in understanding that, because that’s someone trying too hard to be abrasive.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Don’t tell me you’re “offended” when someone is abrasive to you by not saying hi. OMG I offended a poor woman by not saying hi. So by not doing certain things, they can now claim to be offended. F*** that. I have a right to be offended by attempts to bring me back into the plantation. So now if I ignore women, I’m offending them. And if I don’t ignore them, then I’m still offending them by objectifying them! The only way to win is not to play.
Don’t worry, bob.
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Anonymous42I found being polite and doing the verbal dosey-doe is a good policy. I’m remembered as being polite with no negativity. I strive for a smooth no conflict way in dealing with anyone, no bumping and rubbing anyone the wrong way.
But if anyone treats me with genuine disrespect, I’m likely to fire back and mentally torture a tormenting bitch, that’s if I’m in the mood and don’t tell her to go f~~~ herself and walk away…
Don’t tell me you’re “offended” when someone is abrasive to you by not saying hi.
Not at all. I don’t expect other people to have basic manners.
I only expect that from myself.So it’s “good afternoon” to everyone, and if they don’t throw it back, then it’s their own f~~~ing problem. It’s called being the better man.
Even the girl at the corner store (above) didn’t get a comment from me for 3 years. She was a miserable customer service person for 3 years before I even cared enough to say anything.
Last weekend I stepped into an elevator with a woman who is known for not speaking to anyone. She’s a “hot chick” and is built for f~~~ing – perfect fake boobs and all. She has her nose in the air all the time and prefers to be invisible. Bought fake t~~~ but prefers to be invisible. Every knows her as the “asian synthetic f~~~doll” who doesn’t speak to anyone.
I said “good evening” and she didn’t respond as expected.
So I said it AGAIN. Just to P~~~ HER OFF.
Trying to hard that way is not “offensive’. It’s silly.
But if anyone treats me with genuine disrespect, I’m likely to fire back and mentally torture a tormenting bitch, that’s if I’m in the mood and don’t tell her to go f~~~ herself and walk away…
ROGER THAT, Brosus.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I said “good evening” and she didn’t respond as expected.
So I said it AGAIN. Just to P~~~ HER OFF.
That’s basically what the cashier did to me! She actually repeated it. I still said nothing and she was really p~~~ed off by that. lol! You would just end up p~~~ing yourself off if you tried that on me. I just figured out the best way to p~~~ women off. Just pretend they don’t exist! Can’t wait for the robots :}
Women’s need validations that happen to me twice ,what i do??i call that stored and. Complaing either way customers always right she will loses just because that princess needing attention
You are a customer customers always right just call that stored demand you want to talk to that manager talk to that manager and tell him what she did to you and tell him you will never buy there again and believe that bitch might even get fired
Anonymous42I just figured out the best way to p~~~ women off. Just pretend they don’t exist!
Hey bob, make sure you don’t have to trek over the same ground twice, nothing is worse than a woman that has chosen you to be her special little asshole, they’ll go out of their way to make your life miserable, sometimes worse than the movie Fatal Attraction, especially if she’s in a position of power and authority, that’s why I need anyone but Hellery Clinton to get in, otherwise I’m DEAD!
That’s basically what the cashier did to me! She actually repeated it. I still said nothing and she was really p~~~ed off by that. lol! You would just end up p~~~ing yourself off if you tried that on me. I just figured out the best way to p~~~ women off. Just pretend they don’t exist! Can’t wait for the robots :}
@bob I completely get the whole “ignore women” thing and not speaking to them, checking them out, or giving them the attention. But you have to admit …. MAKING A POINT of it and talking about how unreasonable she was is MAKING AN EFFORT TO do it.
You can be a bastard and still say hi back.
Look at her for 2 seconds without blinking and then say… “hi”.
You can communicate “I’m not here to make friends” that way.Even better, when she says “hi” you can say “how much do I owe you?”.
That’s not acknowledging her another way.But to say nothing and then create a thread about how “rude she was”?
YES she was rude. But YOU CULTIVATED IT.Otherwise completely get you.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I pay for all my stuff and then they often stop me again at door and want to see a receipt before I leave building. I tell them this is crazy .. I just paid a few feet away and my stuff is in bags. Do I really look all that much like a criminal? .. or are they just harassing me?”
I pay for all my stuff and then they often stop me again at door and want to see a receipt before I leave building. I tell them this is crazy .. I just paid a few feet away and my stuff is in bags. Do I really look all that much like a criminal? .. or are they just harassing me?
That’s happened to me before too! I f~~~ing hate that.
I handle that by telling them to arrest me. “You need a REASON to stop me like seeing me do something suspicious on camera or watching me take something and put it my pocket. Did you see any of that s~~~? ”
“Well… no…but…”.
“Then get your f~~~ing c~~~ out of my sight”.
Solved.
That’s called “being the better man” too.
They treat you like a criminal just to f~~~ with you and intimidate. That person will be sorry. You treat them like a piece of s~~~ and feel good about it. A security guy in a bad mood who thought he had some power asked to see my receipt as I was leaving Best Buy. I just laughed at him and kept walking. He didn’t do s~~~.
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