I swear, this is a new one, at least for me. I’ve been seeing this chick since July. I didn’t know she had a kid, until the second date. She said, it will not interfere as she always has someone to watch her. I said, ok, we’ll try it out. Fast forward to November, she has no one to watch the kid. We started to see each other less and less. See as in sex. Down to once a week; she lives super close. She goes on a trip for a week, I didn’t approve, but she went anyway. I was silent til she came back. She reached out, and I gave her a second chance. She saw me that day, and we had sex a few times. Two days later, she’s off for another week. Comes back, and we do things over, and I give another chance; stupidly. She said she wants to spend NYE with me, so I said cool. I was working in the city and we initially planned to meet at the place.
The day of she asks me to pay for a taxi, I refused. She was angry, but she came. We did the festivities, and we went home at 1am. In bed, she brought up the carfare and I said, I am no beta simp orbiter. If that’s what you are looking for, we should kill it now. We went to sleep w/o sex. Next morning, she said she’d drop it and we had sex. I took her home and we made plans for Saturday. Friday she said she caught the cold from her daughter, I said we’ll play it by ear. Saturday came, she was sick, but still wanted to do something, I declined as I didn’t want to get sick. However, I thought that was a bit brash, so I sent her a text saying why not come to my place and we’ll stay in and order a pizza or something. As I was going to send, I received this huge text a mile long saying she wants to no longer be exclusive (didn’t know we were), but still hang out and see me. Partly because I would not pay for her car service and that I will not pay for everything that she wants and take care of her. Keep in mind, this woman makes 100k a year, plus brings in another 40k a year in rental property income.
I said okay, have a good life and good bye. Then she doesn’t stop texting me. Why can’t we still see each other? Why can’t we be friends? Why not leave the door open so we can do something again possibly? Not interested. Good luck with life. I’m uninstalling whatsapp now. Take care.
It was an unreal experience. I am still amazed at her actions.
Your story still amazes me what a supposedly awakened guy will do for pussy and the few fleeting moments of pleasant female companionship. F~~~ing A.
Got rid of her… Didn’t I? Where I live, attractive women are few and far between. I draw the line at the beta orbiter situation that she suggested. Which, is a bit ironic as I told her my ex-wife wanted an open marriage too and I filed for divorce the next day. I find it strange how a woman’s mind works sometimes. I thought it was even more interesting that she started to pedal back when I told her good luck in life. I had to delete whatsapp so she’d stop sending messages. I only had it on my phone as she requested it over text. It may had been a s~~~ test, but that was my last straw. No pussy is worth this stress.
Lol. This is why you can only use women for sex nowadays. If she’s keen, submissive and demure, you might enjoy keeping her around, but that’s it (and that’s as rare as rocking horse s~~~ these days).
Hahaha, you fool, “not exclusive” those two weeks she took away, she is already f~~~ing someone else, she is a monkey do you think she wold let you free without a back up?
Check you self for hepatitis B, C and HIV, ASAP.
Probably you are clean, but you never know.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Nice rinse. I can’t blame you for trying to find a niche f~~~ buddy relationship to out-maneuver MGTOW reality. I’d be trying too if it wasn’t for STD’s and the PoundMeToo movement. It sounds like you nipped the parasite behaviour in the bud as soon as it appeared. Furthermore, you proved that women need to exploit men regardless of how little they really need to. It’s not about the money, it’s about her ego. She gets most of her sexual gratification making you pay somehow. It was all downhill from there, forever. With the child, it didn’t even have a 1% chance of working long term. You were always going to be a distant 9th or 10th priority. The only thing that surprises me is how long the good times lasted before her true nature started to appear.
Be Honest. If the sex was REALLY GOOD? You would have had No problem paying for that Cab.
But what are most women?
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It was an unreal experience. I am still amazed at her actions.
Why? This is the kind of stuff that’s brought up here all the time. Especially dating a single mom, what do you expect? A MGTOW would be “amazed” if the next woman you date is any different.
Disgusting. You were f~~~ing her used virus infected old pussy. She’d already had a kid and was likely f~~~ing someone else during those two weeks she took off. Why men do this to themselves is beyond me. I’d rather buy a dead fish from the supermarket and f~~~ that. It would probably be cleaner (and smell better).
I swear, this is a new one, at least for me. I’ve been seeing this chick since July.
I was not surprised or amazed about ANY of your experiences, and you should be GRATEFUL that SHE is not a stalker, SHE didn’t file rape charges against you, and/or SHE didn’t sperm jack you and become impregnated.
Oh, the “wonderful” world of dating is only becoming more and more dangerous in this gynocentric matrix.
Consider yourself LUCKY……..This Time….Oh, don’t worry the NEXT ONE will be “different”.
I’ll add that you seem to have laid out the ground rules for dating this woman, which appear to be mostly that you receive no-strings-attached sex. And you don’t want to be a beta simp orbiter — great.
But you say it’s “unreal” and “amazing” that this woman would actually make demands of her own. Which basically are: pay up.
Well, guess what, you wanna go down the road of dating, relationships… that’s what happens. Or did you expect a one-way street?
The point is, this dynamic should be completely unsurprising to a MGTOW.
So instead of having wasted the past six months in your chase for pussy, you could have been going your own way.
Knowing how this would end if you could go back and not go through this again would you? I’m just asking if it was worth the hassle for you. Because your situation is the best end result one can hope for when getting involved with a single mother. Most of the time it’s going to be continuing s~~~ test, pregnancy, support her kid, STDs, money lost, freedom lost, life lost.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
This is a great segway to talk about why men would start Orphanages in other countries, and the real reason for Missionaries.
Why would anyone do that? Why is Foster care kids such a big thing? Why is there so much abuse in the system when children or women are involved? Why do so many Men & women go into Law Enforcement and jobs that have Power over others?
The dynamic of women and men in the west is not workable. It only works when the two parties not only have a valid interest in each others welfare, but sadly, there needs to be some kind of love involved if force of fear is not present to the woman as by doing so, she negates all benefits of having you around.
Basically, you are either the dope dealer, or the person who puts food in her mouth or the assurance safety in her mind knowing that you have power that she can only have if she is loyal and with you soley.
Its the prime reason why women who have an STD will stay loyal to one partner if everyone knows she has an STD and does not want it. But even then, you have others that have the same and don’t mind.
So here is the trip. Can you make it so that you are the ONLY man she can have? Are you able to make it so that You are the only one that is going to want her? And NO man is ever going to have ANY interest in her? And by her even doing ANYTHING you don’t like gets her thrown to the curb, and YOU have all the options of any woman you want?
If you can do that? You now understand that in the west? Or in a place that has any Options for her, there is no way to be surprised. You either have to take advantage of the fact that she is lazy, and does not wish to be with anyone else. OR. You get it through your head that women don’t want to watch Movies at your place. Don’t want to spend time with you for YOU. They just want what you can provide for them.
If you are a Rockstar, and by being with you she gets any kind of feelz that make her feel like she gaining something from being with you? Or it Excites her? Then she will be HAPPY to do so just for that feeling. If not? Then ask yourself. As a man just like all others, what do you have that she can NOT get anywhere else?
Just look at women like a drug dealer. You don’t want the drugs. What you want is to get high. So if you want to get high, you don’t care what does it, then what you are after is the high. Not the drug itself. She is a drug that is on every street corner. And you can get it anywhere. Now, SHE has a drug that everyone wants. That is her body and what she can do with it. So if you were smart, you would have had 10 women. Maybe even 20. All of them would be happy to serve you. That’s how it works.
Now, DRUGS are BAD. They are DANGEROUS just like women. So you have to be able to control your supply chain. Unless you have control of that, there is no way to not get bad drugs in the mix. Or laced with some s~~~ you don’t want.
So. How do people do this? Why is Hollyweird so f~~~ed up? Why is there so much effort from Men to go help people in other countries and for seemingly no benefit?
I’m going to assume that the next time Sally Struthers or christian charities hits the air, you will think twice about supporting someone’s bad habit.
Honestly bro. Why do you think so many men own slum apartment complex’s. What the f~~~ do you think they are doing? They are not interested in the rent money bro.
If you ARE smart? You know what you really do? You own a complex in a remote part of town. You make sure you control who goes in and who goes out. You supply the jobs you supply the Entertainment. You keep at least 5 different complexes around. You control what goes on, and you control what happens. The people within that system have no idea. They don’t care. But you also put money in the pocket of the cops to make sure you keep other men from coming in through tickets, parking fines etc. it does not take much to discourage men from coming in.
And if you think that’s NOT going on? You must be dreaming. That was the racket all along. Its just that some men are better at it then others.
So either play the game right, or be f~~~ed over. Up to you.
I keep saying this, but the truth of the world around you is what you are getting. And Since that truth does not align with your values, even to the point of making you sick, that’s what it takes. Women are simply business deals. You either wake up, or find that genetic anomaly of the one that is NOT like that.
But even if you do, the prime component is to protect what you have and want. If you are unable to do so, then there is no reason for you to play the game. So many are still playing thinking that the way to have any luck is to keep one. Nope. You have to have many in order to make the game work. Women don’t mind. They know the score in our western way of life here. So either start playing their game, and win, or find a better way.
Either way, DRUGS are BAD for you. So either make a better option, or find a way to accomplish the goal that meets your needs.
Sick world hugh? The only thing that stops women from marketing themselves to other men is that one day, there are no better options. And the second she has you, SHE BECOMES A BETTER OPTION TO OTHERS.
So unless you are willing to take part in Sudo slavery, Stomach the fact that in order for women to be happy, they must be your slave, and you must be their theirs.
Without that dependency, there is no such thing as yours, or mine.
Let me break this down ONE MORE NOTCH.
All over, women when they could not be sold, were not valuable to places like China or India. They even killed them in order to have males that would take care of their families. Women were only used to take care of the home or other kids. And the end result is that is that female children are really only beneficial to that couple when they can leverage their time and investment if they gain some kind of power. Most of the time, that does not happen. In fact, women are not required to take care of their parents. So to a Parent, having a female child is SOLELY for others benefit if you break it down to its basic form.
The reason why you would BUY through a dowry or some other form or means of trade a wife, was in order to pay for that couples labor to provide you with your desire for family or sex.
That is not allowed in the west.
And now, you have a system where the most valuable thing is Virginity, (you don’t want to share) and being the first one in. If that is true, then you have to concede in the fact that women have no value after having sex with just one man. She is forever stuck with being used goods. But you still want to have sex. And, you can never get a woman that IS a virgin. So, what is your choice?
You either accept the fact that you lock down a woman like they do in Islamic countries, or you accept the fact that as a woman, all she can do now is use herself as much as she can to get whatever value she was given solely by the reason of her having a body that you want to have around you and use to get your rocks off.
Men are looking for love. But again, that is IMPOSSIBLE for women to understand unless the genetic defect is there, or some other circumstance allows her to see that there is in fact something of value for her to be solely with you and no other that by breaking that contract, she loses everything. Not just your love, but ALL things that came with being with you. Also, she can never sell herself ever again. So in fact, she is dead weight to any other man.
Unless you have a system that is set up like that, You can NEVER have any kind of relationship EVER with a woman. Not even in Islam since other men will be happy to f~~~ your wife when you are not looking.
So if you have a woman that now has the same value as all the others? And she is already with child from another man? Dude, she is just a whore and you need to accept that. I don’t care if she works, I don’t care if she is Nice, or does that special thing you like.
Whatever is the case, start learning that you are NOT anyone special. You don’t have any power for nothing. And the only reason why she is even there is to get something out of you.
They call it the dating market for a reason. Any man dumb enough to get married to anything else but a certified virgin is an idiot.
Women understand that their only value comes with artificial scarcity. You provide that value. And once a woman has just ONE partner? its over. That’s why they guard their escapades. Why Free love was such a thing. Women are living their dream lives. She gets ALL the benefits of not only being able to have children, but also able to have as many partners as she wants without any problems.
So, with that said, Why the F~~~ would ANYONE be surprised that women act as they do? Again, pull your head out of your ass, and get one thing straight.
Women in the WEST have it made. Men made a world that anyone can get laid without paying full price. And as now men understand that WOMEN CAN NOT LOVE YOU. Or even have the OPTION of feeling like you are the ONLY ONE who will pay her any attention, then you have your answer again.
Mans love was taken for granted. It was not protected, and now you got what you have now. Women pulled the plug on that by showing men all over the world that they don’t want love, they want resources when given the opportunity to act as they will freely.
With that in mind, how does this apply to you? There is NO REASON to have just ONE WOMAN or a RELATIONSHIP. Your are simply f~~~ing and paying for it through dinners or etc.
If she does not put out, then move along. Don’t make any mistake that she is all yours or loyal or even is she states she is, she is just being a whore. Don’t judge her either. You are doing the same thing. The only difference is, if you don’t pay her price, you are going to get burned.
So swallow the fact that you are not even good enough to be with compared to a f~~~ing PILL. Some powder. Or some stupid paper or plastic.
You are so worthless to a woman, that she can’t even begin to be loyal since you got NOTHING that she can not get from anyone else in the west.
Rap that around your head, and maybe you might find some clarity. Women have every right to get all they can from you if you allow it. You are ACTUALLY nothing but a peasant. And really, your a guy that does not understand that the game was to pay HER PRICE for the pussy you get or her attention.
That is ALL IT IS. You can’t make these hoe’s into a housewife. You can’t have a relationship with a whore. And you can’t have any expectations of a woman to be anything else but what she is. A F~~~ing slave to her own whims.
You get that, then you understand why Women all over in the past tried to keep other women in check. That control is now gone, and guess what? Any man dumb enough to even start a family or get married is an Idiot in the west. There is no penalties for breaking the contract of a man’s trust or heart. So get with the program. Start f~~~ing as many as you can, and enjoy your days knowing that you are just using the public toilet to get the job done.
Sex is now nothing more than a means to and end.
She is not even an item for sale. All she can sell you is her time. Don’t over inflate it. So pay nothing for it. And do nothing for it. And let some other guy be the payee, (That is the GOVERNMENT) you already paid your taxes for that pussy, so go out and get whatever you want.
Just know the rules, and know the risks. And that goes for all men.
So, either control the market of your desires, or do what other men do by offshoring their needs. Or letting the Taxpayer pay for it.
If you are DUMB ENOUGH to f~~~ around with a single mom only for the fact that she happens to be on the same economic level as you? You done f~~~ed up bro.
The game is always going to be, HER.. WORTHLESS. YOU WORTH SOMETHING.
Anything else is a losers game.
Why the f~~~ do you think the government pays for women to have free section 8 housing? It’s solely for you to use them as a f~~~ing resrouce. You either take advantage of that GOVERNMENT PUSSY, or get your own. And just because she has a job, it’s STILL GOVERNMENT PUSSY. She is just dumb enough to be a willing slave in the system.
She is JUST using her body, as nature indebted to get what she wants. As soon as another better option comes by where she works, they will get rid of her, and then she will be the government’s problem.
Remember, in our system, there is no deduction of value of a woman from not being with just one man. And, those Cash and Prizes are awarded solely on the note that she was a good faithful woman and partner. However, women took advantage of that too, and so now the cost of a woman is to high. So stop f~~~ing buying, and start enjoying the decline of our civilization as it was inevitable to be.
And I bet you MONEY the only reason why a woman who is married is not cheating on her husband is that they are both either stuck with an STD, or have some kind of medical problem that makes them worthless for other men. Or Straight up FEAR.
There is ALWAYS an Exception. But just like all things that TRULY HAVE VALUE? They must be protected at all costs.
And to the woman that DO see and understand what it really at stake? And happen to be that very VERY small percentage of women that happen to what I believe is the genetic defect that allows them to be able to love? Or even find great joy or value in only one man or one partner? Those women are so RARE, you might as well believe in Fairies, and unicorns cuz that about how likely you are to run into one.
And if you DO find a woman that happens to fall head over heels for you, are you ready to KILL to protect that? I mean KILL ANYONE that even looks her direction, and knows that if anyone even SEE’s that a man is even attempting to be within her “ZONE” , then the rage of a thousands suns and his dick is going to be ripped off like it was velcro?
That’s about what needs to happen in order for Average women to keep in line And still, it’s not enough for most men since even with those bad consequences, there will always be a guy willing to take that chance.
Most people think that the wars in the middle east are about Oil, Goods, laws etc. Most people think that when a village gets blown up, or a town or some crazy Bomber does Jihad that its soley for some bane reason?
Nope. Some dude with power, got his heart f~~~ed with, and therefore, the best way to deal with that, is to fix nip the problem in the bud in the middle east and islamic countries. They just mask that s~~~ in God to get fools to do the work for them. Honelty, islam is the Dumbest thing to do if you are not one of the fools who will kill yourself for it.
Why do you think so many bombs go off not in Political places, or places of government. But the people there?
Just like at that concert. I bet you some idiot got but hurt that he got cheated on or SHE got f~~~ed over and sent some simp to die for that s~~~.
So.. There ya go.
Life is BEER and PUSSY. Take your pick.
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OK, to be fair all I really hear you talking about is sex. It wasn’t how often you see each other and enjoy each other’s company, it was about how often she was putting out. If that was all you were after, that’s cool. I’m not condemning, just telling you what I’m reading. So if she wanted more and you didn’t, it seems logical that the “relationship” failed. I think the issue here is that she s~~~ tested you trying to find out if she was more than just a warm hole for you. She wasn’t.
It was bound to end eventually. She wasn’t yours, it was just your turn. Right?
So take it for what it was. You got what you wanted for a period of time, and when the expectations stop being aligned it ended. You had a good run. She’s just realizing that the wall is approaching and is looking to lock up a husbank. You weren’t interested. You can’t blame a woman for being a woman.
Hahaha, you fool, “not exclusive” those two weeks she took away, she is already f~~~ing someone else, she is a monkey do you think she wold let you free without a back up? Check you self for hepatitis B, C and HIV, ASAP. Probably you are clean, but you never know.
Nah, she had a back injury. Possible, but doubtful. She also had her kid with her.
Nice rinse.I can’t blame you for trying to find a niche f~~~ buddy relationship to out-maneuver MGTOW reality.I’d be trying too if it wasn’t for STD’s and the PoundMeToo movement.It sounds like you nipped the parasite behaviour in the bud as soon as it appeared.Furthermore, you proved that women need to exploit men regardless of how little they really need to. It’s not about the money, it’s about her ego. She gets most of her sexual gratification making you pay somehow.It was all downhill from there, forever. With the child, it didn’t even have a 1% chance of working long term. You were always going to be a distant 9th or 10th priority.The only thing that surprises me is how long the good times lasted before her true nature started to appear.
Agreed. I just wish I knew how any woman would think a man would agree to these terms. Then, when I didn’t, she doesn’t understand why.
Lol. This is why you can only use women for sex nowadays. If she’s keen, submissive and demure, you might enjoy keeping her around, but that’s it (and that’s as rare as rocking horse s~~~ these days).
She was submissive at the beginning, but it slowly changed to this crap. I was running out of patience, this was the last straw.
Be Honest. If the sex was REALLY GOOD? You would have had No problem paying for that Cab. But what are most women?
No, I have never paid for a car service for anybody. I am not starting now. I paid for food, parking and the event. That’s enough. She was telling me on the 1st she didn’t understand why it was such a big deal. I said it’s principle and if you do not like it, there’s the door. She dropped it, but her friends or family (twice divorced mom) must had got her going again. She even told me she’s had men send a cab for her, drop her off at where they were meeting, and have another cab take them back. Unreal. I’ve never heard of this before.
It was an unreal experience. I am still amazed at her actions.
Why? This is the kind of stuff that’s brought up here all the time. Especially dating a single mom, what do you expect? A MGTOW would be “amazed” if the next woman you date is any different.
I guess I thought different. I knew it wouldn’t last due to the kid. If I knew she had a kid prior to seeing her, I would not had dated her.
I swear, this is a new one, at least for me. I’ve been seeing this chick since July.
I was not surprised or amazed about ANY of your experiences, and you should be GRATEFUL that SHE is not a stalker, SHE didn’t file rape charges against you, and/or SHE didn’t sperm jack you and become impregnated. Oh, the “wonderful” world of dating is only becoming more and more dangerous in this gynocentric matrix. Consider yourself LUCKY……..This Time….Oh, don’t worry the NEXT ONE will be “different”.
Always had a voice activated recorder on me. Always used condoms. She’s 42. Doubtful she can become pregnant so easily.
Knowing how this would end if you could go back and not go through this again would you? I’m just asking if it was worth the hassle for you. Because your situation is the best end result one can hope for when getting involved with a single mother. Most of the time it’s going to be continuing s~~~ test, pregnancy, support her kid, STDs, money lost, freedom lost, life lost.
No, I wouldn’t of done this again. Too much drama and hassle.
She was definitely f~~~ing some other bloke on the side as well as you. You were the best option it seems to try and convert to a beta.
I’ve thought that too. Especially with the texts I’ll keep you around but I want to date others too. Later. Then she backtracks. She’s shown me how many men she has hovering around her. It’s unreal the amount that some men go through. I would not had believed it if I didn’t see it for myself. I started to question things a few weeks ago.
OK, to be fair all I really hear you talking about is sex. It wasn’t how often you see each other and enjoy each other’s company, it was about how often she was putting out. If that was all you were after, that’s cool. I’m not condemning, just telling you what I’m reading. So if she wanted more and you didn’t, it seems logical that the “relationship” failed. I think the issue here is that she s~~~ tested you trying to find out if she was more than just a warm hole for you. She wasn’t. It was bound to end eventually. She wasn’t yours, it was just your turn. Right? So take it for what it was. You got what you wanted for a period of time, and when the expectations stop being aligned it ended. You had a good run. She’s just realizing that the wall is approaching and is looking to lock up a husbank. You weren’t interested. You can’t blame a woman for being a woman.
No, we went out, to events, cooked, etc. Many things I wanted to do she couldn’t due to timing issues and that she hurt her back due to a tennis injury. So, I tried to work around that. She killed it with the open relationship request because she wants to find a man who would take care of her financially and marry her. Good luck. Technically, she’s past the wall, but looking at her, you’d never know. No wrinkles, cellulite, anything. She seemed p~~~ed off that I wouldn’t send a car to pick her up to go from New Jersey to Manhattan. It wasn’t enough that I paid for food, the event, parking and tolls. Transportation is her responsibility. I even offered to take her if she’d be able to come over earlier, but she wasn’t able too. It’s not like I wasn’t trying to be fair. She changed her plans a day before.
Oh Yeah – she was basically saying, “I like screwing you – I don’t like that you don’t pay for things for me – so I want to screw other people but still screw you at the same time until I find someone who will pay for me”.
You kept her around too long, but Kudos for booting her.
Going your own way can be many things. Many here are Monk and are condemning of those who still try and have a FckBuddy b/c they view it as selling out. Trying to navigate the realm of still having female contact instead of a fleshlight is a calculated risk and you know that.
Oh Yeah – she was basically saying, “I like screwing you – I don’t like that you don’t pay for things for me – so I want to screw other people but still screw you at the same time until I find someone who will pay for me”. You kept her around too long, but Kudos for booting her.
I sometimes find it amazing how a woman’s mind works.
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