It took me 50 years to figure it out…sad but true!

[NomadgParticipant 249]

I have returned…returned from purgatory that is. Hi! I will try and keep this brief, but when you reach 50, you have enough failure and success to write a book when it comes to dealing with women and freedom. So, to sorta quote Norman Vincent Peale please allow me to talk about my favorite subject for a moment, me. I stumbled on MGTOW after a bad break up with, oops I’m pregnant baby two and a half years ago.

There is a reason they call it birth control because someone is controlling the birth.

I had withered from Alpha stud to Beta loser in six years. After the breakup I searched and searched to find answers about why this had happened to me yet again. A never ending life cycle of Alpha to Beta with every serious woman I have ever been with. I hate to admit that, but it’s true. In between the serious relations~~~s I functioned as a MGTOW, doing what I wanted, when I wanted. Hunt, fish, drink, travel, smoke cigars, and bagged as many women as I could…I digress.

I read everything I could get my hands on. You name it and I have probably read it, I started with the Rational Male, Alpha 2.0, The way of men, The 48 Laws of Power, The Game, Meditations, Thirty Seven, Enjoy the decline, etc…etc…I learned something from everything I read and the bottom line of everything I read was that I had violated my inner instinct. I knew deep down that every time I let a woman take me into her frame I was screwed and constantly on the defense. You do not win in the defense. I only won when I did as I pleased, when I pleased.

Like dogs they smell fear, and with that they will rip your throat open if you ever let your guard down. It is sad that it is that way and that it took me so long to figure this out. I hope my intro to follow will help any young man who is dumb enough to believe that he has found the one and somehow his situation will be different. It won’t, at least not with a western woman.

For the first year I was bitter as hell. Then I finally realized I am only hurting myself and that is when I went on the quest for knowledge. The Holy Grail of what it is men should be doing with their lives. We have been programmed since birth that you must marry, settle down, have kids, work until right before death, grow old together, blah, blah, blah. Reprogramming yourself is not an easy task, plus all your asshole married buddies or specifically women around you will tell you that you are being selfish. You are not. You are living your life on your terms.

I got back in the gym, ate healthy, read, reconnected with friends, traveled, and basically became a man again. As I reflected on my life, it is painfully obvious that the times in my life when I was the happiest and most productive was when I was MGTOW and not in a relationship.

My quick run down:

Two careers all of my life. Spent twenty years in the Reserves and retired after a couple combat tours. The rest was spent in LE, with most of my career spent on full time SWAT, undercover, and Executive Protection. Loved both of my careers. For an ADD asshole like myself I could have not chosen two better places to hang my hat. Thank God they did not have Ritalin when I was a kid or any other drugs they force feed to our poor boys today, or I probably would have been bound to a cubicle for 30 years and then died because I wanted to. Do what you want! Don’t ever let a woman tell you that you can’t do it. Never! That includes your Mom.

This I think is a Twain quote somewhere, but I have never looked back and regretted the things I did do, only the ones I did not do, which luckily are very few.

I married twice and each time I walked down the aisle my inner voice, my instinct screamed NO! Yet I still did it because that is what you are supposed to do. I won’t bore you with all the BS from the first marriage, only to say that it went just as they all go. After 12 years with her she was fat as a house and mean as a snake. I always stayed in shape so it was an embarrassment to be hit on by hot women and have this fat troll at my side. I stayed because we had a daughter. She is the light of my life and will soon be a Naval Aviator and third generation military officer. Success!!

It’s not easy raising kids, be the best Dad you can be and when they are with you focus 100% of your energy on them. Do not introduce them to your harem of women. Dad and Dad only when they are with you. I got raped in the courts and paid 18 years of child support. Once you have a child with a woman you are locked in with her forever. Don’t forget that. Second marriage was a “Im going to war” bride. A colossal mistake! I dated her around 7 months and then had to go to Iraq. She said she would not wait if I did not marry her. WTF!! Are you kidding me??

Yep, I was dumb enough to do it even though I knew it would end in disaster and yes it did end in disaster when I came home. So finally I wised up…ya. I started dating younger women knowing that that must be the answer or at least thinking hot, young tail was the answer. Nope. I got hooked up with a ten that should have been on the cover of Victoria’s secret. The trailer park version of Victorias secret, but still VS.

Her past was very checkered and she already had three kids, but when you think with your little head nothing else matters. Long story short she kept pushing me for marriage and I said I was never getting married again. So? What’s a girl to do? Get pregnant by jove! I know what you are thinking. Is this guy really this stupid? Yes, yes he is. I let her move in because that is the right thing to do and what a man does. I was paying for her cell phone, car payment, housing, raising her kids, and all of her expenses. I bought a new truck because I had driven my other truck for ten years and that was when the fight was on. She said instead of buying a new truck “we” need to get her $40,000 student loan paid off.(I wish I was making this up)Anyway, I said no and that in my life no one had ever paid a bill for me and as a matter of principle I was not paying off her student loan. Two days later she took the baby and left me.

It gets better.

I had to file a court injunction to see my daughter. Luckily the judge gave me a 50/50 split. She wanted the standard 4 days a month because she felt she would get less money if I had more time with my daughter. Luckily for her the courts are so stacked against men that even though I have my daughter 50% of the time I still pay full child support because her mother is “indigent”. Why work when men and the government pay for all of your s~~~? So I have been raising a baby by myself for over two years now while she runs around looking for her next victim. It’s funny that even with four kids by three different men she is hot enough to be pursued by men with money. Hypergamy and Solipsism at it’s finest! She will repeat this cycle until she has a new house, new car, and her student loan paid off without ever working. Bitter taste of the Red Pill my friends? Yep.

So here we are full circle. Started MGTOW and at 50 back to MGTOW. I silently read these forums the last few months. I want to thank everyone who has contributed. It has helped me immensely and brought me back to manhood of which I shall never deviate. I am not locked in a bunker waiting for the end and hate all women. I just finally have come to terms with what instinctively I always knew.

I will never surrender again. Life is only on my terms. If I am lucky I will have another thirty or forty years to polish my soul. If you are a young man and made it this far in my insane diatribe, PLEASE do what most can’t, and that is learn from others mistakes. If you are an old bastard like me, it is never to late to be what you might have been…

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

I’m 55 and just woke up. Also married twice, currently to a hot younger woman 33) from Eastern Europe. Got snipped so no kids. But after 20 years in between marriages pure MGTOW life, I got lured in. I’m broke, physically sick now and my b~~~~ are in a f~~~ing sling. I get added bonus of getting to raise her princess 12 year old daughter – no child support from her Dad who is back in Europe. It’s ok because I’m digging out. Dude, you are amongst friends here who have the battle scars to show. Peace

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Damn that c~~~ wanted you.to pay her student loan wtf behold that true nature.of western women’s they see us.men’s as utility lucky for me i.learn all that crap in my lates 20s now at 31 im like a new man who avoid thoses c~~~s like that plague

[505vikingoParticipant 521]

Welcome Brother! I am similar to you with the same LE and Mil. service background. For some odd reason the profession of arms often expects us to embrace the expectation of long term mating (marriage). Painful as what you have experienced in the past, it appears you have finally learned the lesson. Join the V club (vasectomy), and be the Viking you were meant to be. You are amongst friends now. Good luck and conquer!

[experiencedParticipant]

Well I’m glad I’d never make those sorts of decisions- ****I’M ONLY JOKING!!****
Your comprehensive intro reminded me of SO many mistakes that I made that it hurts.
But at that time, you did the best you could. All of us here did.
You’d been programmed with a bunch of outdated mistruths and lies.
I do feel for you and am heartened that you came here.
It will hasten things improving considerably.
You already helped countless men who read here and learn from your experiences.
Welcome to mgtow.com, looking forward to hearing more from you.

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"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

Better late than never.
Spread the word, brother.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings Nomadg.

I appreciate and relate to everything you wrote about in your introduction.

The responses that your post has generated are great and I wholeheartedly agree with their words of welcome, support, and thanks to you for joining us.

Looking forward to reading more of your posts in the forums.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, Nomadg,
You are not alone. I was 55 when my second wife died and it took 6 years for me to learn that they are all psycho-babes. I lurked around this site till last November and then decided to embrace my own Freedom. Hope to hear from you around the forums.

[Anonymous 54]

Welcome Brother. Im almost 60. Woke up at 50. Married 3 times.God im am idoit!! Im not Miltary but have always stayed in shape. Young Brothers stay in shape!! Its never too late. Thank you for your service Sir!!

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome nomad.
i’m a year or so older than you..been through the wringer ,
courts lawyers child support jail etc..
NEVER TOO LATE !
NEVER TOO LATE !
glad you found us here ..you are among the best men anywhere .

[33wolfmanParticipant 216]

Welcome brother! And I mean that in two ways, as a fellow brother in arms and Mgtow. Reading your story I cant help but think that how some your story, mine and others have similar plot lines. Welcome to freedom, pull up a lounge chair and enjoy the atmosphere!

[OracleSummonParticipant 179]

Welcome my fellow MGTOW! Hopefully you find peace in life after leaving the plantation.

May your life be prosperous, fulfilling, and joyful throughout all your days.

[Anonymous 42]

Nomadg wrote:

I got raped in the courts and paid 18 years of child support. Once you have a child with a woman you are locked in with her forever. Don’t forget that.

Welcome Nomadg, thank-you for your service,,, I’m a rare lucky bastard that hasn’t endured the thorns like you have! I feel like calling you the Jesus Christ of thorns! OUCH!
Just in reading your post I feel stressed out!
You’re in the right place if you like a tranquil and peaceful atmosphere (no c~~~s)… Enjoy yourself!

[KeithParticipant 482]

At the risk of seeming unsympathetic, I understand making mistakes and mis-judgements when it comes to relationships. What I have more difficulty understanding is repeating those mistakes.

Here’s a little story:

Once upon a time a guy met the girl of his dreams and asked her to marry him. His dream girl said “NO!”, and the guy lived happily ever after.

He camped, he hunted, fished, stayed out late, drove fast cars, owned boats, motorcyles and a DVD collection that would make Sony Pictures jealous, drank beer, whiskey and wine by the barrel, traveled, had many lovers, kept all the money he earned and never had to visit “in-laws”, never attended an ice cream social, a play date or a parent/teacher conference. He did what he wanted, when he wanted, with whomever he wanted, as often as he wanted, had many lovers, used all the hot water for himself, left towels on the floor, left the toilet seat up, left dishes in the sink, had many lovers, watched violent movies and porn and movies that “objectified women and had many lovers, had a high self esteem, looked great in sweat pants, felt great, was pleasant all the time, was so happy that the Mayo clinic did a field study about him and last but not least, he had many lovers.

The End.

Gentlemen, what have we all learned?

ONCE UPON A TIME there was a man who never found a wife and he lived happily ever after. The End.

[NomadgParticipant 249]

Thanks I appreciate it! Don’t be sorry for me, it was my own fault and I let it happen. I am free now and it will never happen again.

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

[NomadgParticipant 249]

I truly wish I was 30 with the knowledge you have, you will have an amazing life.

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

[NomadgParticipant 249]

Thanks! As you well know the profession of arms has a very poor track record in monogamy or LTR. Im guilty as charged and I know what and where it went wrong. I wrestle with the vasectomy idea. I once read an article, baseless or not that men with vasectomies were five times more likely to develop dementia. Who knows? But that was enough for me to keep using s~~~ty lamb skin zip locks.

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

[NomadgParticipant 249]

Thank you Sir! Ive already enlightened a few of my friends to MGTOW. Those that can still be saved. They are reading in the background like I did and hopefully they will emerge. All same the same thing, I can’t believe I allowed it to happen.

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

[NomadgParticipant 249]

Thanks! I read Atlas Shrugged six years ago and it changed my life. Any and every MGTOW should read it. It’s a big bastard, but worth the time.

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

[NomadgParticipant 249]

Thanks! I like “retired from the wars” because if you are in a LTR that is what it always is and will be.

It's never to late to be what you might have been...

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