It is "the left", "liberalism", socialism, that is the enemy of MGTOW

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

I had posted this in a thread elsewhere but I think it bears repeating. Left and Right do not really exist as far as I am concerned, the only line that you can look at to see where people stand is Freedom vs Tyranny. This must all come with the understanding that Freedom has within it built in Responsibility.

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[AsatoParticipant 1]

Spot on. The leftists are certainly an enemy of mgtow, and liberty in general. I think it’s important that mgtow come to terms with the truth of libertarian philosophy to have a consistent and coherent world-view.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Asato wrote:

The leftists are certainly an enemy of mgtow

It may be more practical to think of MGTOW as the enemy of leftists. MGTOW declare no enemies (philosophically) because we have Jedi values, such as: “A jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense. Never for attack”. It’s the left who attacks those they consider their enemies.

They come here. MGTOW don’t go to them.
They call for a fight. MGTOW refuse to engage or negotiate with terrorists.
They wield sabres. MGTOW is a shield and they can inflict no damage.

An important distinction.

Just consider the way a MGHOW just needs to refuse to sign a marriage contract. All he is doing is refusing to do what he is expected to do and he will come under rapid fire. Not the same thing as charging into battle wielding an epée.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[gideoParticipant 3]

You may not consider yourself a Republican, but given your deep hatred of the left I’d have to say you’re in denial at best.  Folks like yourself would feel more at home on the MRM/MRA forums, but always find your way to places of MGTOW and then try and divide us on party lines.  I could go into a long rant on the subject, but feel YouTubers like Barbarossa and Stardusk have already addressed this issue of MGTOW and conservatism far better than I could.  So I would suggest folks look up those titles themselves and ignore those that are simply trying to turn MGTOW into another hate filled arm of the MRA.

[Anonymous 42]

Jet’i all the way! MGTOW use logic and understanding of the world around him, he carefully makes prudent observations at any opposition. He operates by the laws of nature, he does not ignore any threat, he uses any threat to destroy itself from within.

By denial to subjugate himself to a threat, a Jet’i refuses to be enjoined to the oppression. He uses plain logic and deduction in his defense. He is a free traveler, unrestricted by the the rules and illogical demands made by the oppressor.

He becomes a target for the oppressors; displaying for all to see the tyranny and destruction, the misery and suffering, the cruel and inhuman conditions.

A Jet’i causes no destruction, a Jet’i is not responsible for any and “all malfunctions”, yet he’s blamed for suffering and destruction. He will not refuse his logic, he will not deny his own vision, he will not deny what he’s hearing, a Jet’i is not a fool, he is a creature of supreme understanding.

A Jet-I uses his intellect over his emotions, He combines all his faculties to spearhead and destroy tyrannical opposition.

I am a Jet-I Knight; I shall destroy the myths of marriage, expose the properties of tyranny, transform the minds of white knights, toil to restore the balance of justice, and return mankind to his proper position.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

You are right the liberals are one of our movements greatest enemies. Conservatives also are one of our greatest enemies. They believe that family is what makes America strong, even though it is actually the military. They believe that me and my fellow MGTOWs cant be single Dads. A majority of them are christians who believe that fornication is a sin. We can not create a new generation of MGTOWs without fornication(sex before marriage). Their moral compasses will guide them to make laws that will stop the future of this movement. That is why us freethinkers must create our own political party. I know all this about conservatives because my parents are conservatives and i disagree with over half of what they believe in plus i totally disagree with liberals. Because of my extreme patriotism i want to create the American Ultranationalist Party.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[CasperParticipant 66]

Many associate conservatives with Christianity and traditional family values.  Supposedly, the traditional family values are a product of Christianity for many conservatives.  Yet, in the Christian bible the following is written:

Matthew 19:9-12

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”

“His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.”

“But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.”

“For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.”

Corinthians 7:8

“Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.”

I don’t think MGTOW clashes with conservatism as much as so many suggest.  If traditional family values are influenced by Christianity, there is definitely a case for MGTOW and conservatives.  I’m fairly certain Jesus was a MGHOW.

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