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Always “Men just shut up and deal with like a man.”
And
“Tone it down you man babies you might offend the wmmnz”
Nothing in the universe is more blue pill.And more stupid.
Women can march and burn their bras and free bleed and grow their armpit hair and joke about drinking male tears and sing about “cry me a river” and deny men a Domestic Violence Shelter but if men speak up even in an online furum just and only just for men someone has to come along and himt that men need to tone it down.
Go listen to BarBar MGTOW and Stardusk and Spetznaz and CS MGTOW.
Then come back here and try to converse with us.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
The “red pill” is truth incarnate. It’s expelling the social programming.
It’s not advocating rage, sadness, anger etc. It is simply an analogy – from the Matrix I believe.
Someone’s response to the truth will vary. If they have been treated like slaves, abused, and discarded, with their children stripped away, awakening to the truth is bound to release some uncomfortable emotions. A lot of what you are witnessing is the byproduct of going through the stages of grief and loss. This will take time – for some it’s a lifelong process that lessens by degrees as the years go by.
I view this as a safe space to grieve and learn. The “rage” can resurface when another manipulator touches your life and is being ejected. It sparks off visions of being dragged back to the plantation.
- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein
Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?
No.
The Red Pill is merely seeing the truth of the world for what it actually is instead of the lies you’ve been told your whole life.
And the truth is ugly. And the truth hurts.
What you choose to do with that is up to you. Treat women how you like, but never, EVER AGAIN believe them to be something they are not.
AWALT.
And the truth hurts you even more if you choose to ignore it.
MGTOW includes not living in denial.My red tuna alert flag is swinging in and out of view with regard to this “Question/Topic”.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
The problem is that people are in different phases of taking the Red Pill. Eventually they get the anger out of their system and find productive things to do with their time beyond venting but it takes time.
This maybe captures the essence of what I was asking more effectively.
What my concern is, honestly, I read some of the post responses, by those who appear to have become MGTOW many months or years ago, and they strike me as excessive… and possibly that is the blue pill conditioning talking, or the fact of being a person who faced a ton of verbal abuse previously… and I’ve been reading the recommendations others have been throwing at me, stoicism, walk away, etc… yet many of the responses on here seem a bit over-the-top… like the rage hasn’t declined in many who I would have thought it to already… maybe I’m just ranting here…
Unless we’re going to create some sort of hierarchical structure to MGTOWs it difficult to accertain where everyone is in terms of how they’ve dealt with TRP.
Some may have got over it and are just passing on knowledge to the newer members in cold plain english. Others, who are divorced with kids may take a lot longer to get this s~~~ out of their system because they’re still caught over a barrel by their ex partner/wife for child support/ allimony etc.
Personally, i don’t think anyone should consider themselves to be a 100% MGTOW untill they’ve fully absorbed TRP and got all of the negative s~~~ out of their system. Only after that, they can apply a calm and logical reasoning on if MGTOW is the best path for them. I’m fairly certain that some guys come out the other side of TRP and will still be open to a relationship/having kids etc, but they’ve gained a lot of knowledge and armed themselves with a level of cynicism that will protect them emotionally to a certain extent for when or if things go pear shaped.
While i understand your concerns, i don’t think there is an easy path around this because most of us as western men have had the truth obsucered from us for he majority of our lives.
It’s a fairly normal responce to get angry and f~~~ed off from being lied to and decieved by society. However, MGTOW is one of the few places out there that men are allowed to vent. I’m fairly certain that we’ve saved men’s lives by giving them a place to sort their s~~~ out and deal with their personal issues.
Yes, TRP may be an agressive medicine, but therapy is bollocks IMO.
Anonymous11I’ve purged all my hatred towards women. Just as my 8 week old puppy is what it is, women are what they are.
I will shamelessly use words like c~~~ and wench, because many women are actually c~~~s and wenches who deserve to be called out on it. I think the ultimate red pill destination is total indifference.
There are a few women who I can tolerate and enjoy spending time with on occasion. They tend to not be vapid, sluts, tattooed, materialistic, or spend-thrifts. They are not NAWALTs and still do stupid female crap. I just accept them as-is and will not allow any to waste my time or spend any money on them.
My writings here can be quite scathing, but I don’t care. I like stirring the pot.
Anonymous42I like stirring the pot.
I threw away my pot and got a large cauldron! Selectmen,
Lawyerslaw firms, Judges, Senators, and more all twirling around in MG-Tower’s condemned family cauldron. I stir it daily to keep it from settling, and whenever they come around I give them a bowl of corruption soup. They usually leave puking!Glad to see you have a trustworthy four legged friend C-P, It makes coming home a joyful event (yellow puddles not withstanding). I teach them to p~~~ on paper next to the door then I move the paper outside and they follow. Ya just need to teach them in ways they’re not even aware of. Training a puppy is everything when it comes to making a nice dog. Never hit, always terrorize them with news paper (do they still print them?).
Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?
No.
The Red Pill is merely seeing the truth of the world for what it actually is instead of the lies you’ve been told your whole life.
And the truth is ugly. And the truth hurts.
What you choose to do with that is up to you. Treat women how you like, but never, EVER AGAIN believe them to be something they are not.
AWALT.
F~~~in nailed it. As for me now, If i seem bitter, it’s because i am now filled with the truth, and the truth is what ? Well, it’s bitter … So to answer the question being posed in this thread “Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?” … It’s like asking a guy who was just served a salmon fillet that’s been sitting out for a week, if there’s any way he can try to spit it out into a napkin politely, without saying holy s~~~ that’s disgusting.
If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.
What I have seen here is there seems to be two camps forming. First is the aggressive “Women are C*nts” group who no matter what happens, say no and essentially ‘**** em
Why am I aggressive or why do I seem aggressive? Because I call women c~~~s? Well, women are c~~~s. Every last one of them. Some are just more apt to act c~~~-like than others.
Here’s every woman’s theme song ever:
My writings here can be quite scathing, but I don’t care. I like stirring the pot.
Same here. If I have the opportunity or if I’m in the mood, I’ll just stir the pot to anger all the blue pill/vagina lurkers. It’s f~~~ing funny to watch them get angry over me repeating words such as c~~~.
Hey blue pill lurkers, women are c~~~s who have an axe wound between their legs! You’re f~~~ing used petri-dishes! Ha
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
Anonymous0[…]Is this a split in the MGTOW world or is this just a reflection of men on different phases of the journey? Those who have been MGTOW for a long time, do you find yourself in one camp or another? Or is this a fluctuation where you go back and forth… ?
I think it’s just a question of different personality types.
I’m more social, and for me it’s normal to socialize in mixed company. So for me, it’s just a question of coming up with some ways to neutralize women when they’re being a pain in the ass. If I can blunt women’s worst tendencies, then I don’t particularly mind being around them. As long as I don’t have to marry them or have them constantly underfoot and in my affairs, then I don’t really mind them.
Other people are less social. They don’t mind being blunt and saying, “F~~~ women and f~~~ any society that involves women.”
But either way, it’s all the same. None of us trust women any further than we can throw them. The difference is only in how we deal with them or put up obstacles to guard against them.
The reaction towards information is rarely uniform.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Anonymous11He’s making really good progress, Tower, after 3 days. I’m using the crate method and praising him every time he gets it right outside. He’s already signaling me when he needs to go. Beagles are highly intelligent and do not respond to brute force kind of like MGTOWs. He is obsessed with licking chicken s~~~ though. Dogs????
I think I’ve located the crazy cat lady too. I saw a cat food and water bowl combo up on a stand in a front yard sitting right next to the street on that road that runs by that storm drainage canal. A 60s age range woman lives in that house too. One of those feral bastards and her kittens were in my neighbor’s yard yesterday. This women has created a feral cat infestation in my hood. She’s probably spending $200 a month feeding coons too. I throw millet seed out for the birds. I’m seeing about 1/4 the prior number before the infestation.
C-Pig has a special treat for feral cats coming via US mail next week. It won’t hurt them permanently, but they won’t be hanging around my house once they sample it.
It’s the law, primarily family law, Title 9 denial of due process, and the outright denial of the legitimacy of MRA issues that have made me a redpiller. I don’t care for the male supremacy side of MGTOW, because it’s non sequitr. I’m angry at the men who still participate in the matrix, who refuse to wake up, who enable and capitulate to female demands. Some mgtow complain about trivial s~~~ like female leads in a movie, or nitpick every little flaw women have. If they want to do that, whatever- but it’s not something I’m interested in. Nor do I have the energy and the will to go on the “women are diseased c~~~s” crusade, for any length of time. I just don’t give a s~~~.
The red pill is a kick in the b~~~~. Better to take your medicine and be done with it.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
Anonymous42Beagles are highly intelligent and do not respond to brute force kind of like MGTOWs
Genus! My Uncle had a beagle that roamed the entire area, we would stop and give her a ride back home (if she wanted to come), they’re worse than cats (no fear of water) The nasty Geese that migrate here (I used to chase away with RC, dirty birds that lower water quality) a visiting Beagle was sent to harass them then wiped out every nest and killed some of them. They need to run but not unsupervised, he’ll develop a f~~~ you attitude, be gone all day in the miles of marsh only coming home when he feels like it EXACTLY LIKE A MGTOW ! I use a sharp “AAAT!” when they’re doing something wrong, gets their attention and stops them abruptly, just like a pack of wild dogs when the alpha snaps at another dog to keep them in line, it uses their nature to smoothly teach them what’s your definition of right and wrong, I say “your definition” because some dogs are trained to be vicious and rewarded with treats and praise. Some of our yard dogs were EXCELENT, They would leave people alone, sniff them and walk away but when night time came they became VICIOUS! Just like a werewolf! Their intentions were to protect the fort with their lives until we came back in the morning, or back from towing a car, I would see the fence shaking as I drove up on pedestrian passer-byes.
He is obsessed with licking chicken s~~~ though. Dogs????
Mine did the same thing and “AAAT” worked like a charm! You never want to harp on a dog and take it further than a nip, it will only confuse the s~~~ out of him and turn him into dogina! THEY’RE JUST LIKE MEN!
P.S. I also trained them not to eat the blue rat food the same way, I put it down on the floor and when they get a good whiff of it I snap either a news paper or the trusty verbal “snap”.
Training a dog is the most important thing for years of smooth operation, and if the little bastard likes to chew, Tabasco Sauce and tie a “knot” in a used sock and give him that, the knot will stop him from learning to chew up all your socks, he’ll want the knot (approved sock).
Enjoy your dog! Man’s only friend in this world of laws stacked against us…
Anonymous42It’s the law, primarily family law, Title 9 denial of due process, and the outright denial of the legitimacy of MRA issues that have made me a redpiller. I don’t care for the male supremacy side of MGTOW, because it’s non sequitr. I’m angry at the men who still participate in the matrix, who refuse to wake up, who enable and capitulate to female demands. Some mgtow complain about trivial s~~~ like female leads in a movie, or nitpick every little flaw women have. If they want to do that, whatever- but it’s not something I’m interested in. Nor do I have the energy and the will to go on the “women are diseased c~~~s” crusade, for any length of time. I just don’t give a s~~~.
I agree
Unbelievableyetnot, it’s petty s~~~, but sometimes it’s fun to throw a yard dart.I’ve finally reached the stage where I don’t hate the players and I don’t hate the game. I’ve just come to learn that the game is what it is and have simply opted to stop playing through there being nothing to gain for me.
“Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?”
Yes.
It’s called MGTW.
It doesn’t exist as of yet. I will prefer Men Going Their Own Way, when the other option does exist, for it’s brief moment before being destroyed."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Do your own thing and don’t worry about what others are doing under any other label. You can easily get caught up in what so and so is doing under this label and that, fill your life with distractions, and not get your stuff together.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I read some of the post responses, by those who appear to have become MGTOW many months or years ago, and they strike me as excessive…
Really?
Can you give an example of what you think is “excessive”?
I won’t quote specific examples (mainly because I don’t know yet how to do cross-thread quotes), but the reactions like ‘F*() that C()*’ to seemingly mild questions or simple asks, especially when directed towards new guys here, just the verbiage, which seems to be done to draw attention, seems excessively violent sometimes. I’ll try to give you an example…
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
The problem is that people are in different phases of taking the Red Pill. Eventually they get the anger out of their system and find productive things to do with their time beyond venting but it takes time.
This maybe captures the essence of what I was asking more effectively.
What my concern is, honestly, I read some of the post responses, by those who appear to have become MGTOW many months or years ago, and they strike me as excessive… and possibly that is the blue pill conditioning talking, or the fact of being a person who faced a ton of verbal abuse previously… and I’ve been reading the recommendations others have been throwing at me, stoicism, walk away, etc… yet many of the responses on here seem a bit over-the-top… like the rage hasn’t declined in many who I would have thought it to already… maybe I’m just ranting here…
Unless we’re going to create some sort of hierarchical structure to MGTOWs it difficult to accertain where everyone is in terms of how they’ve dealt with TRP.
Some may have got over it and are just passing on knowledge to the newer members in cold plain english. Others, who are divorced with kids may take a lot longer to get this s~~~ out of their system because they’re still caught over a barrel by their ex partner/wife for child support/ allimony etc.
Personally, i don’t think anyone should consider themselves to be a 100% MGTOW untill they’ve fully absorbed TRP and got all of the negative s~~~ out of their system. Only after that, they can apply a calm and logical reasoning on if MGTOW is the best path for them. I’m fairly certain that some guys come out the other side of TRP and will still be open to a relationship/having kids etc, but they’ve gained a lot of knowledge and armed themselves with a level of cynicism that will protect them emotionally to a certain extent for when or if things go pear shaped.
While i understand your concerns, i don’t think there is an easy path around this because most of us as western men have had the truth obsucered from us for he majority of our lives.
It’s a fairly normal responce to get angry and f~~~ed off from being lied to and decieved by society. However, MGTOW is one of the few places out there that men are allowed to vent. I’m fairly certain that we’ve saved men’s lives by giving them a place to sort their s~~~ out and deal with their personal issues.
Yes, TRP may be an agressive medicine, but therapy is bollocks IMO.
Thank you, this is a well reasoned response. I would re-frame it from being ‘concerned’ to stating that my ingrained conditioning, causes me to shut down and not take seriously comments that are too excessively aggressive. For those who are calling this ‘red tuna’ (which I haven’t yet looked that up) or feel this is some sort of baiting or other disingenuous post, I can’t help you there, I had the question, I asked the question. I think one thing to keep in mind that others pointed out, we are all on different legs of this journey…
No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.
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