Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?

[GeraldParticipant 3631]

So, having been here a few weeks and on RationalMale for a few months, and having read a number of the introductory items and books recommended, and working through more… I’ve noticed what seems to be a trend here that I would like some clarification on. If this needs moved to another thread area please do so, or if totally just a stage each Blue Piller goes through in their conversion to Red Pill… please let me know.

What I have seen here is there seems to be two camps forming. First is the aggressive “Women are C*nts” group who no matter what happens, say no and essentially ‘**** em’. They respond almost violently to any post detailing an interaction with a woman, or any blue pill style behavior. This may demonstrate an extreme though, and seems to risk alienating new MGTOW inductees… this seems to be the ‘rage’ outlet.

The second is the more mainstream, middle-of-the-roaders who have accepted that things are not what they seem, that becoming independent from the blue pill… yet not saying a big ‘$%^& you’ to society… they seem to recommend the statement of ‘NO’ yet in a more acceptable way to society…

Is this a split in the MGTOW world or is this just a reflection of men on different phases of the journey? Those who have been MGTOW for a long time, do you find yourself in one camp or another? Or is this a fluctuation where you go back and forth… ?

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I am just glad to have woken up and finally learn the truth about females.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5118]

Two sides of the same coin. A year later I have to remember to control the red pill rage, and move on to the next phase of “just walk away smiling”. I will give them no fuel for their mental fire.

Sovereignty above all else.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Not sure what you mean by “less aggressive” red pill.

The red pill itself does not induce any sort of emotion. It is merely the revealing of facts, of how life really is. It removes the blindfold from your eyes, enabling you to think for yourself, instead of what you’ve been told to think, regarding men, women, society, etc.

Everyone reacts differently. The anger that comes through in some may be due to being married for 10-20 years, have a house, kids, and a small fortune, only to have it all swept away by the wishy washy will of a woman. Or her claiming you’re the father, and having you pay child support for a child that is not even yours. Or being expected to be of service to women just because you exist. Or false rape claims, etc, etc.

The anger that may come through against blue pillers is the fact that they SEE what women are like, and they STILL wish to be involved with them, to the point that they will demonize YOU for pointing it out. They will never hold a woman responsible for her own actions, making every excuse in the book for her behavior, and back-stab you without a second thought if it means they could have a “chance” to look good in front of the female they are trying to impress.

They will shame, or even attack you openly if they sense you do-not value poon as much as they do.

But you don’t have to have a red pill to be rightly justified in anger about that.

The red pill indicates that it is tactically wise to void women from having serious (if any) control over or in your life. Now to what extent that is taken is up to each individual.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Anonymous 18]

Gerald wrote:

What I have seen here is there seems to be two camps forming. First is the aggressive “Women are C*nts” group who no matter what happens, say no and essentially ‘**** em’. They respond almost violently to any post detailing an interaction with a woman, or any blue pill style behavior. This may demonstrate an extreme though, and seems to risk alienating new MGTOW inductees… this seems to be the ‘rage’ outlet.

I think the sorts that blatantly blame women for everything in their lives or those you can’t seem too see women past their exploitation of men for their own benefit are still hurting from their own delusions of being told ‘Be a nice guy and women will love you for you’. The ugly truth is women manipulate and weigh their options with cold calculation and detachment. She may f~~~ the hot guy but she won’t f~~~ the nice guy unless she stands to earn decent ‘payback’ from her ‘Vaginal Services Inc’ credentials.

Gerald wrote:

The second is the more mainstream, middle-of-the-roaders who have accepted that things are not what they seem, that becoming independent from the blue pill… yet not saying a big ‘$%^& you’ to society… they seem to recommend the statement of ‘NO’ yet in a more acceptable way to society…

The former group almost invariably arrives to this stage. It takes time but men are rational beings who figure out the truth from the fairytales they were told as young boys.

To answer your question in short: The least aggressive red pill is to never get involved with women. Learn from other people’s mistakes. Testosterone however necessitates we get burned a few times to accept the reality.

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Gerald wrote:

Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?

No.

The Red Pill is merely seeing the truth of the world for what it actually is instead of the lies you’ve been told your whole life.

And the truth is ugly. And the truth hurts.

What you choose to do with that is up to you. Treat women how you like, but never, EVER AGAIN believe them to be something they are not.

AWALT.

[Banks Control The WorldParticipant 242]

I don’t hate women.

At the same time, I don’t trust them.

Not because they are women, but because times have changed.

I would consider myself liberal in life but not political party.

Progressive left has surpassed reasonable changes and beliefs.

The left has become a cult.

I’m waiting til we stand up together and take the country back through a civil war.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5118]

Exactly. The Left is a communist cult, and the majority of women are dumb enough to blindly vote for it. Hillary is a wretched lying shrew, but the sisterhood will circle the wagons to get elected. Women are dumb children so I expect no better, but the manginas who vote for Hillary are nothing but beaten down neutered sheep.

Sovereignty above all else.

[Anonymous 42]

Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?

It’s not good to mix your pills. The purple reprobate’s pill is a mixture of red and blue pill that slams your thinking between red and blue like a ping pong ball under a lawn mower! The redder the better!

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

The problem is that people are in different phases of taking the Red Pill. Eventually they get the anger out of their system and find productive things to do with their time beyond venting but it takes time.

[GeraldParticipant 3631]

MonkeyMind wrote:

The problem is that people are in different phases of taking the Red Pill. Eventually they get the anger out of their system and find productive things to do with their time beyond venting but it takes time.

This maybe captures the essence of what I was asking more effectively.

What my concern is, honestly, I read some of the post responses, by those who appear to have become MGTOW many months or years ago, and they strike me as excessive… and possibly that is the blue pill conditioning talking, or the fact of being a person who faced a ton of verbal abuse previously… and I’ve been reading the recommendations others have been throwing at me, stoicism, walk away, etc… yet many of the responses on here seem a bit over-the-top… like the rage hasn’t declined in many who I would have thought it to already… maybe I’m just ranting here…

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[ExpendableYouthParticipant 381]

To quote a line from the movie The 40 Year Old Virgin….

“I LOVE WOMEN…..I love them so much I want nothing to do with them”

That movie was f***** up considering the guy had a perfect life and then he ruined it by getting involved and listening to all his stupid ass fake friends telling him he has to get laid

[ExpendableYouthParticipant 381]

And hey to answer your question original poster…

Go read some of my recent posts you’ll see why I act the way I do these are only a few examples within the last year so that’s led me to believe they are all the same I am so glad I finally found a group of like-minded men who are men and no to go their own way.

I don’t hate women at all but I know better than to ever even go near them again. I do however now charge more for my women customers then my men because f*** them, in reality the husband’s just going to pay more from the wife anyway lol.

I’m 30 years old and I finally seen more than I’ve ever needed to see. I do not look at women anymore I could care less at all especially within the last year from everything that’s happened to me keep in mind my friends this is just what happened to me in the last year…dare I go back 20 years…15? 10???????

As I said before I love women but I know better now and everyday I read more here and it just solidifies my decision that honestly subconsciously I made over 15 years ago. I’m now typing this on my phone looking outside on my back porch not a soul near me and I’ve never been happier in my life.

I got burned too many times and every time I just remind myself when I look back and do all that none of this was worth it. I learned zero lessons from any of my relationships other than all women are the same. I just thank God I wasn’t stupid enough to ever marry one or have a child with one and for that I will always be grateful.

It’s not anger per say, it’s coming to the realization that it’s all a waste of FINITE time in this world. I am full time employed have my own business on the side have a great credit and a good drive but because I do not go with the social themes of today I am called boring and get left for a chad who just wants to dump and pump while working a night shift flipping burgers. I don’t get any more mad because I know that Chad is just still a blue pill ….and will wake up one day and come to the real side

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Q: Is there a less aggressive Red Pill?

A: Red pill = truth.
The truth doesn’t change.
Our reaction to the truth is what changes.

Often, men who were abused financially or emotionally are angry once they see the truth of their situation.

The anger generally subsides, but can definitely resurface when the man is again abused by some bitch.

Personally, I walk around calm most of the time, just ignoring women.
But periodically some bitch will try to get into my world in an attempt to manipulate me.
Then I’m p~~~ed for a little while while I get rid of her lying butt.

You’ll probably find on your journey that life becomes more and more peaceful. Just ignore the bitches. Thanks

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

ExpendableYouth wrote:

That movie was f***** up considering the guy had a perfect life and then he ruined it by getting involved and listening to all his stupid ass fake friends telling him he has to get laid

Didn’t he end up a chump married to some single mother at the end?

Notice how they never made a sequel showing what happened to him after that?

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I wouldn’t say red pill is a strict dichotomy, but rather a transition. At first, you might bee annoyed by women, or even hate them. Then you realize it’s pointless pass time. You get past the anger and learn to adapt to the situation.

Women are like a minefield. One day you wake up after taking the red pill and realize this lovely green pasture is actually a f~~~ing mine field. At first you might be annoyed and p~~~ed, but then you learn to figure it out. Once you are aware of the minefield, you can avoid it. Then, once you are in a true green pasture away from that bulls~~~, you are no longer mad. You recognize the minefield as dangerous, not some place you want to hang around, and you find peace.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

I never been financially divorces rape or pay child support but on my lates 20s to be exact i was 28 i swallow that redpill. I had girlfriend back then but they all were that same wanted me to take them out spend money on them while all they offer me. Were their vagina,i was ok with it i was blue pill ,but then i saw my cousin and a friend getting screw by women ,first red flags i saw all that bulls~~~ they were goin through i decides it to learn more about child support and marriages laws i search videos on you tube ect ta da. I saw a video of a guy call vention mgtow. On you tube. My first mgtow video that i wacth after watching his videos i swallow that redpill right away,i still get pussy from time to time but on my term and i get it it for free if she wants me to take her out i said im busy and she can go f~~~ off ,so i do still have that redpill rages on me because i treat women’s for what they really are now,not because all that nonsenses they teach me when i was younger like be nice to women’s and you will be rewarded

[sidecarParticipant 35842]

Gerald wrote:

I read some of the post responses, by those who appear to have become MGTOW many months or years ago, and they strike me as excessive…

Really?

Can you give an example of what you think is “excessive”?

[Anonymous 42]

Gerald wrote:

yet many of the responses on here seem a bit over-the-top… like the rage hasn’t declined in many who I would have thought it to already

Naming who? What did they say? The only thing “over the top” is the aggressive rape of our god given rights by NOW infiltrating the government!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Before work this very day i was listening to the guys talking about their wives and girlfriends.Complaining they were.

I had to speak up and say something.

I said “Guys since i decieded to just be single i have SO much less stress”

I dont think i got thru to any of them but mabe just mabe when one of them goes thru ANOTHER break up he will remember my words.

All of them ,like most men are too addicted to pussy to really listen.

O well.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

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