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1. Woman is too passive and the whole experience becomes rather boring. Not very satisfying at all.
That applies to many women, too many women, but not always.
2. Woman demands poses, oral, and what-not.. so you distract yourself to please her.
I like that, it’s just that is quite rare
3. You wear a condom, which kills much of the sensitivity of your penis.
I absolutely hate that. Main reason why I gave up to casual sex and I don’t have sex with escorts (also I don’t like the idea of paying a woman).
4. Woman is too dry or too wet, creating more sensitivity issues.
Too wet is not the best but it’s psychologycally very satisfying.
Never met “too dry”.5. You can’t seem to fully relax, thinking about of the possibility of getting an STD while actually having sex.
I couldn’t care less, actually. My job implies sometimes more dangers and I don’t care, so why I should care about such details?
6. You can’t seem to fully relax because of issues that may happen during sex, like breaking the condom, impregnating her, the future agenda of this woman who will subsequently try to gain something from you.
See above.
The only real obstacle to full relaxation is that I’m programmed to be focused on her pleasure, and I cannot avoid to be so.7. Funny smells and unexpected skin imperfections messing up with the experience.
Nope.
Smells and skin imperfections are part of being humans, actually a good thing.8. Inability to watch the act from numerous angles. You’re constricted to POV most of the times (unless you have a few mirrors around).
Eheheheheh
I have a 2 x 2 (meters) mirror over the bed.9. Further distractions of what she may think or do about numerous things.
Once I was performing a quite special (at least for normal standards) thing and the phone ringed: emergency on my job. I actually cried due frustration, I was still literally crying due frustration when she carried me with her car at my workplace (I was in her house when the phone ringed).
I believe I’ve had a decent share of sex and all in all, I can definitely state that I’ve had my best orgasms and sessions while pleasing myself to my imagination or porn. Based on my experiences, reality seems to be highly overrated.
Surprisingly, on the whole, I mostly agree with you.
But it’s not due STDs or a lot of things you wrote and I contended.
It’s actually POINT 3 that make mostly unworthy casual sex.
And also I like oral sex, very much (both ways) and even other things.
So you have to be in a relationship before having worthy sex (without condom, oral, etc), and you have to pray she don’t lie about the pill.
Even taking as granted that she will never lie (and that’s highly hypothetical) then taking the pill her sex drive will be even lower – worth noting that in natural state it’s already lower than your sex drive – so you’re destined to have less and lesser sex.
If you live with her then it’s even worse: it’s not just only a problem about alimonies for cohabitation, but she’ll gradually take control of your life, trying deciding about all: the things you eat (and drink!), your dresses, your hairstyle, the furnitures and the decor of the home – there’s no limit, literally.
In exchange, you’ll have less and lesser sex.
There isn’t a great difference between the combo porn+sex toys and casual sex, and I think porn+sex toys is actually better.
Situation flips when you’re in a relationship: sex within a relationship is even better than porn+sex toys. But a relationship have A LOT of downsides and dangers, and sex within a relationship become less and lesser through time: at the end there isn’t sex anymore, just only someone who wish your house and your money.Condoms have a semi-high failure rate.
That’s partially true, I have a daughter (official, with my ex wife) and a son (unofficial, with a coworker, actually a superior) due both times I ripped the condom. On the other hand, given the myriad of times I actually used the condom, I’m sure that the failure rate is under 0.1%.
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I don’t know what’s up with this list. Have you ever even had sex before? Seems like a weird list.
From what I read online you use a condom and visual inspection. That eliminates most risk.
However, HPV and HERPES can catch on uncovered areas. They said online you can look and see if there are any marks sores etc. but because of something called “viral shedding” you can still get them.
I read a man has less chance to get an STD from a women than vice versa.
You would need to be sure whomever you’re sleeping with has not been around. You also need STD tests. Seems like it would be safe to bang with a condom and ask for an STD to go bareback then be monogamous. Then again most women are liars. Proceed at your own risk.
Am scared to use escorts because of viral shedding (and betraying my values) but am getting pushed more beyond my threshold and it sucks. At this point if there was no risk of STD I might do it. Am 100% pure as crystal spring water and don’t want to mess that up with an accident.
You would think if someone had an STD they would not have sex with you without telling you. However a while ago there was this f~~~able French girl who sexually harassed me at work. Total Hypergamy in action as I had the corner office, was independent, and making bank. She constantly wanted to hook up with me at work
“Michael you look hot today in your shirt and tie, Michael lets go for coffee, Michael do you think it would be inappropriate situation for us to get to know each this weekend, Michael I’m going back to Paris soon, Michael lets hang out before I leave, and on and on and on with touching etc”. It was irritating as f~~~. I wasn’t going to risk losing my client over her.
She 1) had a boyfriend and later 2) Full blown Mononucleosis. That means she got it from cheating on her “boyfriend” or vice versa.
Of course the worthless French whore didn’t have any qualms about another person catching it! F~~~ing bitch!
I am very picky, with a short list of known women I am willing to pump and dump after a while. They know the terms up front and are game as well as being as picky as I am. It is like any other manageable risk to me.
The STD risk made me leave bars and fast pickups behind a long time ago. It is also why I learned not to be so critical to monks. Avoiding sex does prevent STDs quite well.
I’ve passed on every chance for the last six months for health and other reasons. I’ve gone a year without sex in order to wait for something that meets my standards, so who am I to be critical of a monk ?
The rise in STDs is making me rethink things too.
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Anonymous11Funny EL.
I know a really messed up young woman who is here due to a ripped condom too. She’s not mine, thank God! Over the past ten years she went from a very pretty straight A high school senior to a snaggle toothed meth head on the run from the law.
I think it’s the failure rate for prevention of some STDs that is significantly higher.
Anonymous3In your teens and 20s with other teens and 20s, probably.
In your 30s and beyond? Heck no.
I always am appalled how on these sites there are always older men that are still so thirsty. I just look at them with bewilderment. I know they’re not f~~~ing the hot young model types, they’re always chasing around 35+ year olds pretty much.
Historically, men that were obsessed with sex were called effeminate. Most men today are, sadly, effeminate.
I think a lot of it is cultural conditioning. I know when I stopped watching TV and movies, and really began cutting myself off from the mainstream thought processes, combining that with age I just could not get interested in most women, and the few that I rarely see that I think might be attractive I still don’t feel like working up the effort to bother pursuing them.
When I was younger, I was pursued by attractive women. But in retrospect, it’s very hard for me to really separate out whether these women were truly very attractive or it was my hormones at those younger ages affecting me. Is it possible that if today I saw these same women I would not find them attractive? It’s hard to know. But the fact is I guess there were enough of them that I don’t feel any type of need to “prove” myself by chasing pussy today. I think most men that keep chasing pussy as they get older just had absolutely no access to it when they were younger, when girls pretty much throw themselves at you.
If men genuinely withdrew from women, women would have to change their behavior. They don’t have to change because men are so pathetic, which is how society does condition them as well, until it becomes a part of them.
Also, I want to compare the sex drives between men and women. There is no question a man’s sex drive is much higher than a woman’s, but actually men have much more restraint and can control it much better than a woman can. That is why historically men would just deny their wives sex to punish them, and since she would get stoned to death for going outside the marriage she had no recourse but to submit. In fact Muslim men still practice this on their women.
A man’s sex drive is like a high powered fire hose. And a woman’s sex drive is that of a leaky faucet. The fire hose when it’s unleashed will sweep everything in its path and explode out. But when it’s turned off it will not do a thing.
A leaky faucet? It’ll just drip drip drip and there’s no way to stop it. Over time if the firehose is off the faucet puts out much more. No matter how much the woman wants to stop it, her desire just stays.
Masculine_Man wrote:
This is disgusting and one of the reasons I am very careful. I am not completely celibate but I am definitely heading there. This is all the fault of white knights and manginas. A man with a hard on usually will go places a man with a rifle won’t. This is why I do the jerk-off test. Most females are not hot after the jerk-off test.
If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.
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