Is the expectation of monogamy by a frigid wife/girlfriend a form of abuse?

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Yes or No

Good luck.

 

BVC

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[TsunamiParticipant 5]

Yes

[TheMuleParticipant 29]

After careful consideration,…I feel compelled to say yes.

It behooves me to say though, that despite it being abuse, it would certainly go against my morals to do anything about it…other than the obvious end to the relationship.  What would be worse though, I believe, would be a wife/girlfriend that just lays there like a corpse and lets you do your thing.  I found in the past that becoming a bigger and bigger issue with women of the younger generation.  It is like they think we don’t need any foreplay or dirty ‘pillow talk’ (?) as it were.

I’ve go so far as to put off my own gratification to be able to please my sexual partner so it becomes not only sexual abuse but also physical and mental  abuse as well.  Then, if you cannot perform because they are unwilling to capitulate…some women ridicule you for not doing so.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Yes. It’s abuse with malice aforethought. So is lie still no move sex.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[peterfaParticipant 833]

No, but it’s controlling. There are other ways to satisfy a man. If you cannot live up to your wedding vows and satisfy your partner, then you should get a divorce.

[TheMuleParticipant 29]

peterfa wrote:

No, but it’s controlling. There are other ways to satisfy a man. If you cannot live up to your wedding vows and satisfy your partner, then you should get a divorce.

I think it interesting that you say that if people cannot live up to their marital vows and satisfy your partner, get a divorce.   The only grounds that a divorce is applicable in that sense is if a man cannot perform (as many MGTOW YouTubers have posted).  It falls to a woman’s entitlement to what a man has…and like they say in the video, they are entitled to men’s penises…by law, but men cannot say the same.  If you do not perform for your wife, then by law…it is considered a form of abuse to her.  The opposite should certainly be true.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Yes. Most definitely. It’s an aggressive hostage situation from the wife. Tiger Woods wife pulled the same s~~~. She withholds sex, he’s f~~~ing Tiger WOODS(!) so he gets it anywhere else from vagina that is thrown at him as a high status male….. the wife accuses him of being a “cheating asshole”…. beats him with his own golf club…. and then steals his f~~~ing money, AND wants a public apology. F~~~ her.

CHEATING is not the problem.
She is trying to get away with cheating HIM OUT of it.

That’s why women are so p~~~ed when they have no control over the sex you GET – and DON’T get. They want to fully be able to regulate the flow and control your nut. As soon as you get it elsewhere, that game fails. These women should not even be in relationships or marriages…. while operating under the pretense of “love”. It’s false pretenses, and from your wife, it’s as much “abuse” as the “abuse” you would endure being held at gun point for a ransom. The act itself is not “abusive” in the least…. but the torture of finding yourself in a stalemate situation is. If you had a reasonable out, it wouldn’t be abuse at all. But knowing she will kick you out of your own house and move her next boyfriend in while you pay her monthly – the aftermath is MOST CERTAINLY abusive.

Enduring “punishment” for doing nothing wrong definitely qualifies as abuse.

Girlfriends? That’s a different story. An UNAMRRIED man can never be expected to explain or apologize for where (or how) he gets his nut. THAT’S WHY he’s not married. Girlfriends have no business trying to control your nut.

Whoever told “girlfreinds” they are permitted to use the word “cheating” in an accusation against an UNMARRIED man, needs an earful from a MAN right quick.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Krab_AssParticipant 267]

Yes.   Let’s turn the tables (some have taken this tack already but I will take a swing).

You start out in the replacing s~~~ – er…  relations~~~ – er…. relationship.  There… whew!! got it finally.  Anyhoo…  Things start hot in the beginning.  You both are a great match sexually.

Then things change…  she wants it less and less and finally not at all.  This effects you because sex is a natural and healthy ‘release’ (for men and women by the way).

The Shagin’ Wagon is stuck in the mud and she doesn’t want to get out and help push.  DAMN!

Naturally, you will want to get it from somewhere.   If I were in a marriage, that would be a deal breaker, or she would have to be fine with having my needs met by another woman.

If I were in a dating relationship – well.. I wouldn’t be in it for long.

Cheers.

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

7 out of 8 say yes so far…I say yes… that makes 8 out of 9 so far.  About 92%

We need a bigger n  (sample size)

BVC

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

If I marry or otherwise commit to monogamy with a woman, I have voluntarily agreed to reduce the potential number of sexual partners I can have from around 3 billion to just one. But one is enough, so I can make that choice and still be having sex. A girlfriend/wife who is not willing to have sex, but still expects indefinite monogamy from me has reduced that number from one to zero, and she has made that choice for me. How is this arrangement any different from volunteering for castration in order to maintain a relationship with her?

I’d say it’s abuse, but only if the man agrees to it. That seems unrealistic that any man would agree, but I don’t find it unrealistic at all that a woman would try to demand this. In my experience with women, whatever her demands are, anytime those demands are met, they increase shortly thereafter. There is no limit on how high the demand will go. There’s nothing they won’t take from you if you continue to say yes when they raise the demands. Any woman who gets all her demands met and says she’s satisfied will be told by the hive that she settled. Any woman who does not get all her demands met will be told by the hive that she was cheated.

I wasn’t aware that the law considers a man unable to perform in bed for his wife to be a form of abuse. But since we are <sarcasm> all ‘equal’ now under the law, then it has to be abuse if she can’t/won’t.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Anonymous 42]

Any kind of game is abuse, if guy needs it, and she don’t want it? Fine give him a BJ at least! Females get men addicted to sex, then play with it, like some kind of water faucet!

Yeah, try holding your p~~~ until she says it’s OK to pee! They know you’re addicted to f~~~ing!

I liken it to holding some smack (heroin) over a junkies head, just to see how many loops he’ll jump through! F~~~ THAT!

A woman like that, I would cheat on, TO HER FACE! I’d f~~~ the nearest available piece ass on the kitchen table right in front of her!

Give a man a reason to cheat, you deserve a cheater! I have a very LOW opinion of female integrity. I found there is none. That’s why I went MGHOW, AWALT! F~~~ing game players to no end!

[flailerParticipant 31]

Yes, it is abuse.

We have a biological imperative to have sex.

In all cases, except one, to undermine a biological imperative is massively MASSIVELY abusive.

The only exception to my rule is if abstinence is a form of self-control.  Self control, not control exercised by another person.

Self control is a WONDERFUL POWERFUL thing.   But, being controlled by someone else is abusive.

Did you agree to a sexless, or perhaps a limited-sex,, life-style?    No?  I didn’t think so….

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

yes very much abusive and its more so if she is not frigid but gives it to others.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Son of PeleusParticipant 13]

It’s pretty clear that using sex as an exercise in operant conditioning is abuse; I do have a question though: was the wife/girlfriend always frigid? Or is it something that developed? If the wife/girlfriend was always frigid, can one really claim abuse if she doesn’t want to partake, considering it’s well within the parameters of her regular behaviour? In this case I’d say caveat emptor. But, if she’s become frigid, then that bears a separate host of considerations: what’s changed? What’s on her mind? Have you changed? Has the “spark” gone? Etc etc. Is she doing it deliberately to punish/control you? If so, would that not be a good indicator that it’s time to move on? But, if she’s doing it because she’s depressed and (as is quite typical) doesn’t know what’s troubling her, her frigidity certainly isn’t fair to you, but I’m not sure it’s abusive.

But the consensus on what needs to be done is absolute: your life is your own: you do what you have to.

[Anonymous 2]

I think it is a stupid way for women to devalue themselves and nothing more.

A frigid wife? MGTOW don’t deal with wives, none of our women have made vows to have sex with us, so none of us are obliged to stay monogamous when she witholds sex. Our natural imperative is not just to have sex, but to have sex with as many women as possible. So really… regularly draining my sac is in her advantage.

No sex, no interest.

No interest, no promises.

Oh, and don’t get married. But that goes without saying.

[fedupinfloridaParticipant 2]

A healthy sex life is part of the male/female dynamic. The sad fact is that most married couples in American live more like roommates than man and wife. If you even question whether or not you “deserve” sex in your relationship, you have no relationship- you are in hell.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

It’s definitely abuse.

Bonus abuse points if she’s (like stated above) sleeping with other guys, and even more points if she’s not even pretending to like it.  If she’s laying there like a corpse, then there’s something wrong there.  She’s either got other men on the list or she’s lacking something down low.

[SurlymonocleParticipant 38]

Yes, it is abuse.  If by injury I am unable to perform, it is grounds for divorce, her refusal to perform is abuse.  Abuse is willful.  Refusal is willful, thus abuse.  If a wound is grounds for divorce, though not abuse; willful refusal of “wifely” duties is.  Rational minds can disagree, and I am willing to have those conversations!

[mackiavelicParticipant 226]

i firmly believe it is the case. Who would ever commit to a monogamic Relationship to someone if they knew that they wouldnt have sex? Nowone goes into relationships for the sake of becoming monks.

[AkibarangerParticipant 37]

Yes – The Ice Queen in all her forms is.

[Author]

Posts