Is MGTOW going its own way from the rest of the manosphere?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I did a video similar to this one by CS MGTOW:

I argued the rest of the Manosphere has issues with MGTOW, and there is now a divide happening. In this video, it is similar, but I see conclusions similar to mine.

Can it be said now that MGTOW is now going to go its own way from the rest of the manosphere?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RoyDalParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Can it be said now that MGTOW is now going to go its own way from the rest of the manosphere?

Yes. There will always be people who insist I conform to their personal choices. They will say I am not MGTOW enough, or I am somehow inferior because I do not go to bars and pick up strangers, or some such other nonsense. They say these things because I chose to be unlike them.

When it comes to how to run my life, I keep my own counsel. The world is full of men and women who cannot accept that. The most extreme of these are the social justice warriors and/or the officials of a government.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[bachelor4goodParticipant 170]

It´s logical that MGTOW and the manosphere is separating. The main topic both have may be in some sorts similar. While MRAs, PUAs engage with women in case of arguing or getting laid, the MGHOW isn´t. For him there´s just no point in doing so. I have never understood, why people give so much s~~~ arguing about things that bring trouble to their life. There´s just no point in it. Just don´t give a f~~~, keep your life in order, exclude nonsense an live peacefully.

IDGAF

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

This is an interesting question, but really, this is kind of a blurred contrast.

What is MGTOW? … If each man defines it for himself, how do you define it adequately enough to separate it from the manosphere?

If the manosphere is MRAs, PUAs, and other such things, then you’ve really arrived at a case by case comparison.

Some men may go MGTOW in entirely different ways.

An important distinction of MGTOW boundaries is that it has none. Other than not being married, a MGTOW can do whatever he wants, as long as he is putting himself first.

In this way a MGTOW could be an MRA, if that’s part of his path of “going his own way”. Conversely, an MRA can be married and still not be a MGTOW.

What does this question of MGTOW going away from the manosphere really accomplish? MGTOW is not a collective entity. So for it to move in a figurative spatial comparison it would require boundaries, there is only one, as stated before.

I don’t really think MGTOW can escape the manosphere, because to be MGTOW is to be on some level, masculine enough to choose your direction (even if the man is more feminine overall). Therefore, inclusion that this relationship mandates by definition would indicate that MGTOW is permanently part of the manosphere, because it is solely concerned with the man. If anything, MGTOW could be at the heart of the manosphere figuratively from the start.

I hope that makes sense. It’s a lot of logic coupled with figurative and literal switchbacks, but should still be coherent enough to formulate a broad point.

[bachelor4goodParticipant 170]

Your statement got me thinking, Exsliventxs. As far as feminists are concerned MGTOW is a part of the manosphere. If the MRA´s were asked, they would prefer to kick it to the curb, because of not engaging in the fight for mens rights.

In this way a MGTOW could be an MRA, if that’s part of his path of “going his own way”.

In my understanding engaging in a fight that has no outlook of success, is a waste of time. Someone might go this way, but he´s just picking up the bone someone else has thrown in. You can be MGTOW and MRA … kinda, but not really. Arguing about some dreck with the feminist society, is not putting yourself first. Why give a f~~~? Hope you get my point.

IDGAF

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

I’d say yes.

Paul Elam is p~~~ed because i think he thought MGTOWs could be swayed into becoming MRA’s. PUA’s like Roosh V probably thought we just needed to get laid. And f~~~ knows what’s going on in the Mannosphere these days.

Personally, i though i was going on a tempoary hiatus from dating/ relationships after a really s~~~ty breakup before i’d even heard about MGTOW. But i now have little interest in going back to the plantation so MRAs and PUAs have nothing to offer me with regards to self actualisation.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

MonkeyMind wrote:

But i now have little interest in going back to the plantation so MRAs and PUAs have nothing to offer me with regards to self actualisation.

Same here, MonkeyMind. I for one to a very large extend make up my own mind and those two you just mentioned aren’t any part of it. Simple as that.
Some people might want to instill a rift within MGTOW but that endeavor I somehow think is bound to fail… – my 2 cents –

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Are people still talking like MGTOW is a “movement” that’s going somewhere?

I expect that from someone like David Westonhouse or whatever his silly name is. With all that yammering on about a “movement” and an “ideology”……. .trying to figure out where it’s going……

He — not NHB the video author —-doesn’t have ANY grasp of what the f~~~ he’s talking about, or any understanding of “MGTOW”.

Everybody’s talking about it, but nobody seems to get it!

3 days ago we received an invitation to take part in a “television opportunity:” from a small / independent Los Angeles Entertainment company . They wrote with “great interest about our organization”. In 3 emails we had to tell them it’s not an “organization”. They kept using the word “organization”. Did you watch a single MGTOW video honey? Did you read the about page? Did you read the Manosphere page? They want to gather us up and take part in their docu-drama about s~~~ they know nothing about.

We asked them to tell us more about it, and what first started to sound like a 20 second appearance on the evening news, turned out to be this totally inconvenient list of s~~~ they wanted us to do. Skype chats. An “audition for casting”. Just RIDICULOUS set of “we wants” but NO MENTION OF WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING – like we’re not busy doing other stuff!!. Yeah it was a woman too. It didn’t even occur to her to send dates. We had to ask 3 times. “What are we talking about here?? We’re BUSY. She actually expected us — without any schedule or plans or dates – to just agree to all this crap!!

…. until we just ended up saying “The best representative of MenGoingTheirOwnWay…….. is an empty chair”.

Done. Film an empty chair.
No scheduled Skype chats or casting auditions required.

They will get it eventually.
Probably when they film a show asking “where are all the men???”. (*rolls eyes*)

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[UntamedParticipant]

Whatever they want to say about mgtow, they should not forget it’s only their point of view and opinion. MGTOW is about every single Man who’s found reasons within himself to face himself without the mask of guilt and shame that society imposed upon him. Reasons to be proud again and work toward complete self-ownership with a personal philosophy which purpose is to plow through the bulls~~~ of a feminist-rigged system in order to allow contentment in his life.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Keymaster wrote:

Everybody’s talking about it, but nobody seems to get it!

I think the problem with the MSM is that they think we’ll be star struck into selling our souls for a couple of minuites of attention on prime time Television.

That said, they’re welcome to buy my couch for £50,000 and put that on TV.

[UntamedParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Are people still talking like MGTOW is a “movement” that’s going somewhere?
I expect that from someone like David Westonhouse or whatever his silly name is. With all that yammering on about a “movement” and an “ideology”……. .trying to figure out where it’s going……
He — not NHB the video author —-doesn’t have ANY grasp of what the f~~~ he’s talking about, or any understanding of “MGTOW”.
Everybody’s talking about it, but nobody seems to get it!
3 days ago we received an invitation to take part in a “television opportunity:” from a small / independent Los Angeles Entertainment company . They wrote with “great interest about our organization”. In 3 emails we had to tell them it’s not an “organization”. They kept using the word “organization”. Did you watch a single MGTOW video honey? Did you read the about page? Did you read the Manosphere page? They want to gather us up and take part in their docu-drama about s~~~ they know nothing about.
We asked them to tell us more about it, and what first started to sound like a 20 second appearance on the evening news, turned out to be this totally inconvenient list of s~~~ they wanted us to do. Skype chats. An “audition for casting”. Just RIDICULOUS set of “we wants” but NO MENTION OF WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING – like we’re not busy doing other stuff!!. Yeah it was a woman too. It didn’t even occur to her to send dates. We had to ask 3 times. “What are we talking about here?? We’re BUSY. She actually expected us — without any schedule or plans or dates – to just agree to all this crap!!
…. until we just ended up saying “The best representative of MenGoingTheirOwnWay…….. is an empty chair”.
Done. Film an empty chair.No scheduled Skype chats or casting auditions required.
They will get it eventually.Probably when they film a show asking “where are all the men???”. (*rolls eyes*)

That’s worth repeating: The best representative of MenGoingTheirOwnWay…….. is an empty chair
Than you KM! They still don’t get it, do they?! There is no “spokeperson” or “leader” for mgtow, we go out own way from a dying society that chose instinction over reason. This site exist because the Media sold out to the feminists, why would an mgtow participate in the media to paint a huge target on his ass? Weemins love to do that s~~~, and the more offensive the better.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[EekParticipant 1162]

I like to play the “MGTOW Movement” drinking game. Every time someone jumps on the forums and talks about starting to “organize”, I down a shot. Fortunately for my sobriety it has been quiet here lately.

[UntamedParticipant]

They can’t define it or put it in a neat little box with a label on it. It goes to show you how brainwashed some people are.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Ned Trent wrote:

MonkeyMind wrote:

But i now have little interest in going back to the plantation so MRAs and PUAs have nothing to offer me with regards to self actualisation.

Same here, MonkeyMind. I for one to a very large extend make up my own mind and those two you just mentioned aren’t any part of it. Simple as that.Some people might want to instill a rift within MGTOW but that endeavor I somehow think is bound to fail… – my 2 cents –

Yup. Try to create a rift in the air, bound to fail. In my opinion, people start out as GTOW, and at an early age all this societal stuff drags them into these sphere of influences. Marriage and relationships are the most central. And many do so willingly, because they think it’s the “right” thing to do, other for pussy. Some are orbiting, hoping for pussy so they can partake in this thing. And then get surprised when they do get sucked in, chewed and spat out.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

@ KeyMaster: As if we even needed a movement as such or any attention for that matter.

Now, let’s face it guys: this site has already been subject to hacking attempts multiple times and yet always came back (once again, well done crew, as always whenever you bring it back very quickly and I know it must be quite stressful and annoying to maintain it especially straight after such an attempt) and as strange as this may sound: each time the site and forum comes back it’s just the kind of attention that we should appreciate (albeit should not even need) to widen the circle of awareness and without ever having called out for any attention (like women and feminists stereotypically do without even ever appreciating it anyway and naturally so because they see themselves entitled to demand it) in the first place and this is one of our big ace cards, that we hold in our sleeves. It’s like the overall neutral maintenance of our professional poker face with regards to expectations put on us by the society at large, which automatically and virtually effortlessly almost passively generates attention (that we never ask for but can appreciate), simply because of the very times that we currently live in. So yeah, we got the best reason to stay calm and watch the show unfolding …

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

MGTOW ‘organisation’ it is not……we are our own bosses and have decided to walk away from the plantation for good, I am past the point of no return, I will not be a slave to society/wimmin therefore I turned my back and walked away.
As for a TV show, forget it, it will be edited into a misogynistic entertainment article.
Nothing to see here, move along!

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[chirParticipant]

Too many people are trying to fit MGTOW into a preformed cut out of what they need. They need us to be a movement with target-able leaders and organizers. Once they have targets they can dox, harass and vilify the feminists can declare victory. They accomplish nothing but as feminists and SJW all that matters is the narrative and having targets to harass. This is quite obvious since mgtow.com has been the target of constant harassment and I am sure that the feminist SWJ’s are desperate to dox keymaster.

As keymaster said. Best thing to give the manosphere, feminists and their hangers on is an empty chair to target.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25011]

I used to be an MRA, mainly because I have a son and didn’t want him to have to inherit a completely feminized world. What I saw was a powerless movement with feminism actually rapidly gaining ground.

On the other hand my son wants to get laid hence buys into all the femstapo bulls~~~.

Since I’ve been there and done that twice, I have no interest in engaging the feminine world so I’m going my own way.

When MRA’s realize how futile their efforts are, usually after the custody fight and they are riddled with injuries handed out by the relationships they still wish they could have with women they go their own way.

So MRA’s ultimate trajectory is to going their own way. It’s just that MRA’s haven’t matured enough in their understanding of the nature of today’s male/female relationship. When they do they, by force of logic, go their own way.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[bachelor4goodParticipant 170]

MGTOW is like guerrilla warfare. The Hydra with a thousand heads, cut one off, at least two new are growing.

IDGAF

[DDJParticipant 1880]

MGTOW is an idea…a philosophy…not an organization…while many may agree with me…no one speaks for me, unless I specifically request it.

I am going my own way…while the road I travel may be shared…I am traveling solo to my destination…the fact others may be headed there as well, is happy coincidence brought about by like-minded individuals.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

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