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Where abouts are you living? Just a rough ballpark area will do or the fembots will come get you ☺
@iliveagain, I’m in the south east, 1 hr from central london by train.
@progenitor, thank you, imma try and hang on in there still.
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@iliveagain, I’m in the south east, 1 hr from central london by train. @progenitor, thank you, imma try and hang on in there still.
I’m in South London not far from the O2 Dome.
I can always make time for a beer should you wish.
Just ask Keymaster for my contact details.
Even if it’s just to vent ok?
You’re not on your own.
Hey gents. Rebalanced just wrote about this and I replied explaining we can’t give out contact info (like an email) to anyone unless the USER requests to have it sent to another member. So ILIVEAGAIN would have to write to us and request that we send it to Rebalanced. I’m sure you guys can understand why it has to work that way. So if ILiveAgain can contact us and send whatever he wants us to pass on to @rebalanced, then we will be happy to do it. Thank you. Just use the contact form at the top.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.FURTHER UPDATE:
Yesterday I got a voicemail from my kids saying they don’t want to come for contact (obviously made to by their mother), although just a week ago (after last contact) they said they like coming for contact (that was mothers words in an email to my solicitor before she blamed me for her passport being seized and told the kids it was my fault). Next due court date would be in 2 months (only another directions hearing). As contact has broken down (mothers fault) the court would most likely say to build up a relationship I’d have to yet again go back to supervised contact at a contact centre! So 4 years + later back to the same starting point again.
SOME QUOTES/STATS FROM THE SYSTEM ITSELF:
When you have senior judges such as Mr Justice Coleridge, in 2010 saying: ‘Family courts are losing their authority because so many people take no notice of their judgments. Around 5,000 new cases a year come before the family courts in which parents – almost always mothers – defy orders to let the other parent have contact. Judges are extremely reluctant to jail such mothers because of the damaging effects on the children, so many continue to get away with it.’
SUICIDE RATE OF NON RESIDENT PARENTS
A recent report appeared in the Sunday Express [UK newspaper], where it had been found that since June 2003, 8,515 non-resident parents have committed suicide due to the distress of not seeing their children. The study found that 94.8 per cent of the deaths involved a male non-resident parent.
HHJ Furness at a seminar on Parental Alienation in 2013. ‘Families Need Fathers had the temerity to suggest that Judges in the Family Court were biased against fathers – and of course they are right’
David Norgrove, the chair of the Family Justice Board, at the Family Justice Network for Wales stakeholder event held in Merthyr Tydfil in 2013 said ‘Let’s cut to the heart of the matter – fathers being involved after divorce or separation simply doesnt work. We’ve looked at this is detail – with the experiences of other countries and I’m telling you it just doesnt work.’
Lord Justice Ward – 2008 Vengeful mothers leave good fathers powerless to see child, says judge
A senior judge spoke out against child access law yesterday, saying that the courts were powerless to help decent fathers to see their children if vengeful mothers stood in the way. “The father complains bitterly, passionately and with every justification that the law is sterile, impotent and utterly useless – we have to acknowledge there is a degree of force in what he says,” the judge told the Court of Appeal Civil Division. “But the question is what can this court do? The answer is nothing. This is a truly distressing case. It may not be untypical of many, but in some ways it borders on the scandalous. It certainly is tragic.”The more sagas like these drag on, the more I feel this battle needs to be taken to another platform, such as putting actual documents/evidence (minus the names of kids etc) out there on the internet. As many people may not realize how bad the issue of fathers rights re: children contact is until they actually see these documents themselves. The law here in UK now allows social workers to generally be named and shamed. Even if the law here didn’t allow it (not that that would stop me if it was the last resort) the info could be put out there via overseas/bulletproof servers for e.g.
I have some professional experience in book publishing so maybe that could be another outlet. Having just completed a project I am free to and would happily take on that as my next project if anyone would like to contribute/be part of/want their stories featured.
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Anonymous13she wouldn’t let them come over and they gave me a look like I’m the bad guy for messing up their holiday. I made sure I said when they walked pass ‘what kind of woman brings kids to court’? I have never spoke bad about their mother in front of them until today but seeing as I get accused of it anyway, thought I may as well say something which may stick in their mind or come to it in future and make them question it.
Praying for you.
Praying for you.
Thank you brother, I pray you are helped with your situation likewise.
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That voicemail must have been heart breaking to hear. I’m sorry to hear that. You know it’s just their twisted mother forcing them to say that.
Women use kids as weapons to hurt men. Men have hearts and care about their kids and women use this. I bet if it was the other way around you would have no problem allowing their mother visitation and access. She’s just another cruel c~~~.
Good luck.
Also, I found out today that my wife’s health worker (that I pay for) is coaching my wife to start arguments and call the cops. I will see how I go speaking to her boss but I might have a name and shame story for you down the line.
Get a good lawyer, try to go to a public area with legal consent and record any evidence. Then, try to get the women under oath. If you can, “accidentally” run into your kids, and record them that she was using them. OR, put them under oath and since they’re kids they’ll eventually say that their mother forced them.
@Progenitor, thanks. I know that my sons have been put up to that and that that is part of the parental alienation/erasing dad that the c~~~ is doing. Still not nice to hear.
Good idea with talking to that woman, I’d advise recording the boss when you speak to her.
Generally, the courts consider it inappropriate to record people (even your own kids) but it can be used as leverage outside of court sometimes.
@Katmn, I appreciate the suggestion, I have tried that before and even with my ex lying under oath (even her social worker friend) the judge didn’t punish them even though he wasn’t pleased with it and gave me 1/3 of what I was asking for on that occasion.
I also had a recording of my son speaking about being hit by his mother, I even had a confirmation in letter form from another social worker where it states that she was physically abusing the children. Then 1 week later (and 1 day before court) cafcass said to disregard that statement as the social worker started recycling lies that were already dismissed in a previous fact finding trial in 2014. Same social worker wants the previous statement ignored. To top that all off, solicitors will tell you the court doesn’t like it when you criticise social workers, so you are advised not to criticise them! Talk about rigged system huh?
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In the 5th year of back and forth court proceedings and after having yet another court date pushed back by my ex (4th one since Jun 2015) I throw the towel in. I played according to the courts rules, fully complied, they have no evidence against me (whereas my ex has repeatedly breached court orders and has plenty of evidence against her) and still can’t get justice.
Family courts in UK are useless by their own admission so I will wait until my kids are old enough to deal with me with no interference from their mother.
Spare yourself the hassle of going through these courts, better still don’t impregnate a she devil (AWALT).
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Hey just noticed your post, I know a little late right!?
It’s clear you tried very hard to do what you can for your children, hopefully one day you can spend time with them in peace. As painful as it is you have become wiser.Hope to see you around here more mate.
Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman
Thanks Red Dawn, appreciate that mate.
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