Is it too late to go your own way?

[DocParticipant]

Well after 4 times I think you are more qualified than most to say marriage doesn’t work.

Never too late to go your own way.
54 is young. There are many men on here your age or thereabouts.

Relax. You are in safe company.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[It’sallbsParticipant]

AWALT DONT DO IT A 5TH TIME YOU NINCMPOOP.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[VernimatorParticipant 38]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

I enjoyed RV life in my early forties and would never change a thing about it.
The highlights were the times I spent in National Forests.

Alas, it all got old after a decade.

Furthermore, there were things I wanted to do like travel the world and have access to a research laboratory.

Now I am setting down some roots. I am ashamed to admit that I now love my comfy bed, kitchen, bathroom, office, garage, and collection of tools. And it feels good to come “home” after a field trip.

With all due respect, your Introduction has some NAWALT and/ or “Unicorn” leanings.

Understanding and seeing Woman’s Narcissism is part of being on the MGTOW Road.
Getting to AWALT is a MGTOW Milestone.

Your experience sounds like my plan. 5-6 years travelling the US and Canada seeing the sights but also growing my business in the progress. After that settle in somewhere and see the world and expand the business further.

I know when it comes to my current wife it sounds very NAWALT and in her case so far it’s true, to an extent. But to quote Mr. Smith when he had Neo down on the subway tracks about to meet his demise with the oncoming train blaring “That is the sound of inevitability!”. Neo took action to save his life and I am taking action to preserve mine. NAWALT, yet… I am seeing/experiencing the warning signs. Eventually, like radioactive decay, AWALT.

All good things will eventually come to an end. I’m just choosing to step aside before the “Bitter” end. If anything that I learned from the prior 3 was to acknowledge when a relationship it has run it’s course and time to bring things to an amicable end.

Again, thank you everyone for your comments and thoughts.

~V~

"I'll never be back!!!"

[VernimatorParticipant 38]

It’sallbs wrote:

AWALT DONT DO IT A 5TH TIME YOU NINCMPOOP.

I are as you describe and “Won’t get fooled again!” Love that song.. Pete is the man!

"I'll never be back!!!"

[MACHOParticipant]

Welcome Vernimator, Great intro, wow 4 times!

Vernimator wrote:

I sit here contemplating the future on the tail end of my fourth, yes fourth, marriage and I am thinking it may be time to resolve this current endeavor and then quietly go my own way

I believe you now have all the tools 🔧 required to go your own way.

Vernimator wrote:

I actually did this once before where I shunned any involvement with women for almost a decade

You had a really good taste of freedom there.

Vernimator wrote:

Imagine the scene at my daughters graduation ceremony were her mother, my second, her step-mother, my third, and my fiancee, soon to be my fourth, were sitting there side by side chatting amongst themselves. Yes my special version of A Christmas Carol starring the wives of Past, Present, and Future

Another moment that must have been special and quite an eye opener!

Vernimator wrote:

An entrepreneur with my own business that affords me the luxury of working from pretty much anywhere and a 36′ “Class A” RV next to the house ready to go.

You are in my book all set for a life of freedom , I envy your options. Grab a chair and enjoy the mgtow.com forums, I believe you found a new home.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[StealthParticipant 5373]

At 36 and newly divorced, I don’t have much to say to someone with your experience. But it sounds like you are ownng yourself more, and that journey just might be the kind that is ongoing.

Welcome.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Broken-oakParticipant 75]

Torpedoed… I see what you did there.

Anyways, it’s never too late. All it takes is a serious look over the cost to benefit ratio. Marriage lost that years ago.

[SoaringTigerParticipant 32]

Greeting Vernimator.

I did one year as infantry, ranger in Norway army. Didn’t ask for it,,but in Norway you don’t have a choice unless you want to do jail time or double the military time working with nursing care.

I know several sub people from past and they are all smart and fascinating people. Personally, I think it would drive me insane to be under water and not seeing the sky for days, but I DO like diving and snorkeling, even though I never got certified. Maybe later.

To your initial question. NO, it is never too late. I am coming right behind you and your “battle experience” with women seem to be exactly the kind of things we need to hear more of.

Your age is nothing. With today’s age-management, you can be as vibrant as most millennial drones, or even more so. I treated guys in their 60’s with hormone balancing that would pick up chicks 20 or more years younger THAT WERE 8+’s. Not that I’m saying that is a metric in itself though. The biggest advantages of hormonal optimization is that it gives you the energy of a 20-something, while retaining the wisdom of your chronological age. I have been treating a spartan fitness warrior that started off with a T of 250 and after getting it up to 650, he crashed his time on a race with 1 hour 20 minutes, crushing kids 15 years younger.

Innovation is a gorgeous thing. As time goes, you will pick up and find yourself, just as I hope to do.

Man small, why fall. Earth’s call, that’s all.

[VernimatorParticipant 38]

Thanks again everyone for the kind welcomes.

SoaringTiger wrote:

Greeting Vernimator.
I know several sub people from past and they are all smart and fascinating people. Personally, I think it would drive me insane to be under water and not seeing the sky for days, but I DO like diving and snorkeling, even though I never got certified. Maybe later.

There is one thing that, in retrospect, I really enjoyed about being on submarines. NO WOMAN!! THe male camaraderie akin to a brotherhood was an exceptional experience. A close knit, I got your back, kind of brotherhood at sea and even ashore especially in a foreign port. These were still the days of the cold war so we had a very capable opponent.

When I transferred off the first sub I was on to a submarine tender, and auxilary ship that resupplies and repairs submarines, in Norfolk doing Radiological Controls we were the only division on the ship that woman were not allowed to be in due to radiation exposure. Again a good level of camaraderie amongst my fellow “Radcon Techs” but the rest of the ship was fully integrated with almost 40% female. Since they could not go to sea at the time on a combatant ship they stuffed as many as they could on auxiliary support ships.

Oh, the insanity!!! Take around 500 females and about 700 males, 80% unmarried and under the age of 22 and you have complete pandemonium. Granted there were a few of the woman, less then 5, that I would take to sea on a sub in a heartbeat due to attitude and a high level of competence but the vast majority were in there own little worlds of drama. It’s like watching an extended episode of “The Real Housewives of Wherever” everyday for 8 to 10 hours a day. And the horny little male f~~~s still thinking with their little heads exasperated the situation.

Towards the end of my tour of hell another Sub Tender in Norfolk was getting ready to head to Diego Garcia in the middle of the Indian Ocean for an extended multiyear deployment. A large portion of the females, well over a hundred, on that ship suddenly became pregnant in order to miss the deployment. So, what did they do? They transferred all of them to the ship I was on and transferred there “Male” counterparts to the ship heading to the middle of absolutely nowhere for an indeterminate amount of time. We just about had a mutiny! It was a very intense month or so as the decisions were made on who would go and transferring them over.

And so as the female complement expanded, along with their bellies, the ship, which was now a large prenatal facility, now had almost a 60% female compliment. Nuts! Absolutely Nuts! The level of work we had to do didn’t change but each division now had fewer personnel to do it since those with a “bun in the oven” couldn’t even step on board a Nuclear Sub let alone go below decks to do repairs. It was ugly. They even transferred almost all of the non-nuclear trained men out of my division which left us extremely short handed. All because a bunch of females didn’t want to fulfill the obligations they signed up for. They all should have been court martialed and kicked out of the navy with other then honorable discharges.

I actually volunteered to transfer to another submarine, my third sea going command in a row, in order to get off that pig. The ships command tried like hell to get my orders cancelled but the sub I went to had a priority billet to fill and off I went. I have never been so happy in all my naval career. No more insanity.

Ok. Rant over.

Time for a beer!!!

"I'll never be back!!!"

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

You need to spend time on these pages and understand what women are all about. Once you understand, you will know what happened in your marriages. You are far from too late, in fact you have no other choice – MGTOW. The next one would take half that business you are trying to build. Guessing your business was not big enough for this last one.

Let the good times roll

[VernimatorParticipant 38]

BlakeGuy wrote:

You need to spend time on these pages and understand what women are all about. Once you understand, you will know what happened in your marriages. You are far from too late, in fact you have no other choice – MGTOW. The next one would take half that business you are trying to build. Guessing your business was not big enough for this last one.

My eyes are wide and seeing life clearer now then any other time in my life. Businesses take time to grow especially when they are based on emerging and disruptive technology. In this case Augmented and Virtual Reality (AR/VR). As an application developer I see where it’s going but have no control over the pace of technology and adaptation which in some ways has been quite rapid, VR, but in other was a bit slow, AR. With almost 4 years committed to this technology I am not stopping now and yes this is part of the marital issue. I fully supported her dreams and aspirations but the reciprocal has been a bit lacking.

Anyway, from a business perspective a good time for MGTOW in my life.

"I'll never be back!!!"

[The CaptainParticipant 133]

Welcome aboard Vernimator,

I think that we have only one life and we should live it on our own, it’s a must.

Because the best you are while fulfilling your needs and dreams the better will be the other people that surrounds you, and that’s it.

If you live your life based in other people wants and needs, you’ll finished your days regreting or wondering “why i didn’t do that or this..”

I applied for myself several rules, not all of them, but i’d like to share a couple of examples here:.

– Do what i want or like without harming anyone (i’m sorry if when i do what other people feel harmed because the count on me to fulfill their dreams or use me, but i’m first, and learn it the hard way. When i’m fine i can help anyone, if i’m f~~~ed or worried about other things not related to me, i’m only a burden and probably most of the people who count on me will avoid contact with me because i’ll be useless for them)

– I love to learn from the mistakes of others, i have known a lot of people of old age or about to die, and i really enjoy to hear and learn from them stories and advices, specially the good ones. The main thing that they have in common and regret in average is:” To not have done X or Y when they could”

Feel free to live your life on your own married or not, everybody around you will share your happiness, the worst thing that could happen to you could be way different, excess of success, too many “friends”, too many attention by your love ones who can stop you (you can focus again your energy in things that you don’t care too much and eventually lead to a pasive state of mind like before.

It’s like to be fat and slim, maybe you could gain some weight but you don’t care, because you know how to run, eat good and everytime you get some pounds you know how to lose them and do it.

Get you gain some overweight makes you don’t pay too much attention to details and finally some things does count too much, but as long as you start running or doing sports again you want more and more see the changes day by day and changes all. The way you dress, the places you go, the friends you make, the things that you can do and the things that you are in the mood to do, the opinions of the others, the things you like to eat. (i know that because i have changed my weight several times)

If some so easy to do like change weight can make such a difference, imagine other things.

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[No CountryParticipant 759]

Anonymous wrote:

Velcro stops working after it gets singed by fire and full of debris. Our hearts are the same way, after a while we can’t bond with women alt

I swear MG-ɹǝʍo┴ you are one of the wisest people on here. You always have the best replies. Still learning everyday!

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